I have gone on a journey through the internet and no where can I find an official ruling for this. Can a swashbuckler take the signature deed feat. The rules have never been clarified as far as I can tell and I have spoken with my GM about this and he says no until a dev comes along and says otherwise and it's hurting me on the build I set out for.
I would be deeply thankful if this question could finally be answered.
I have gone on a journey through the internet and no where can I find an official ruling for this. Can a swashbuckler take the signature deed feat. The rules have never been clarified as far as I can tell and I have spoken with my GM about this and he says no until a dev comes along and says otherwise and it's hurting me on the build I set out for.
I'm glad to hear that your game master feels getting a ruling for his particular game is more important and a better use of the developer's time than actually, you know, developing new material for the Paizo community at large.
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A Swashbuckler cannot take Signature Deed unless they happen to have 11 levels of Gunslinger, however this is one of many potential errors being addressed in the next printing of the ACG.
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I have gone on a journey through the internet and no where can I find an official ruling for this. Can a swashbuckler take the signature deed feat. The rules have never been clarified as far as I can tell and I have spoken with my GM about this and he says no until a dev comes along and says otherwise and it's hurting me on the build I set out for.I'm glad to hear that your game master feels getting a ruling for his particular game is more important and a better use of the developer's time than actually, you know, developing new material for the Paizo community at large.
That was needlessly antagonistic.
Besides, rather than "devs must answer this!", I think it's more likely the DM is saying "no, but I'll reconsider if an official ruling says otherwise".
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The Swashbuckler class writeup actually states at one point that the Signature Deed feat cannot be used to lower the cost of one of the Swashbuckler's Deeds, which suggests that it was intended to work with the rest.
Also, initially during the playtest, the Swashbuckler flat out counted as a Gunslinger (and Fighter), and couldn't multiclass with either of its parent classes, as part of the general rules for Hybrid Classes.
When that language was removed from the final printing, I suspect details like Signature Deed were overlooked or forgotten during editing.
I am (somewhat) confident it will eventually be fixed.
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The signature deed feet is absolutely intended to be used by Swashbucklers. As Azara notes, one of the deeds even explicitly calls itself out as the exception to that rule by saying you cannot take the feat for that deed!
On top of that, it is explicitly stated in the rules that panache, grit, and luck-based systems are just meant to be different names for the same rulesets (renamed to match the flavor of the class). If the swashbuckler has gunslinger levels they don't have two pools, they have one pool that adds together panache and grit.
The fact that it says "Gunslinger level 11" is just a poorly written pre-requisite.
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the immediate and obvious combination (Parry & Riposte) would make me leery as a GM.
I play a 7th level Swashbuckler now (this profile) and I've got to say it's annoying wasting all my Panache on parrying and not having anything left to perform other Deeds.
I'd hope an 11th level Swashbuckler wouldn't have to spend resources to parry. It seems by that point it should be second nature to them.
Also let's not pretend AoO aren't already limited in quantity
