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What ones from Seekers of Secrets are usable and are all stones stackable or only those?
From reading it I think the only ones that can not be used are the upgraded ones but straight out of the book ones are okay? Plus,how many can you have in orbit at one time?
All stones other than upgradable are legal. Only stones that specifically say "stacks" are stackable. Any number in orbit but some GMs *cough* me *cough* do consider them a possible detriment in some social situations and a valid target for intelligent NPCs.
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What ones from Seekers of Secrets are usable and are all stones stackable or only those?
From reading it I think the only ones that can not be used are the upgraded ones but straight out of the book ones are okay? Plus,how many can you have in orbit at one time?
The Additional Resources document is your friend.
Everything in this book is legal for play with the following notes. Equipment: ioun stones use method 1 for resonance and never use method 2. Additionally, only normal ioun stones have resonance—inferior ioun stones never do. Advanced ioun stones are not legal for play.
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Can a NPC try and grab one that's orbiting a PC's head? Is it just a CMB vs. CMD?
An orbiting ioun stone is an attended object and benefits from its owner's defensive ability and magical protections. The CRB description doesn't give stats for grabbing or netting one, but a Steal manoeuvre, basically as you've described, sounds right, applying a +2 bonus if the grabber uses a butterfly net, landing net or similar small hand net.
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What ones from Seekers of Secrets are usable and are all stones stackable or only those?
From reading it I think the only ones that can not be used are the upgraded ones but straight out of the book ones are okay? Plus,how many can you have in orbit at one time?The Additional Resources document is your friend.
Everything in this book is legal for play with the following notes. Equipment: ioun stones use method 1 for resonance and never use method 2. Additionally, only normal ioun stones have resonance—inferior ioun stones never do. Advanced ioun stones are not legal for play.
Based on the OP's words I am pretty sure he read the Additional Resources and was not sure what was meant by "Advanced" in this case. So he came asking for clarification to something. No need to be a jerk.
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Greywulfe,exactly. I was asking for clarification on what is considered an advanced stone? Form the way the thing is written I can upgrade any stone so therefore it would be considered advanced? So all the stones form all the books as long as they are not upgraded are okay unles they are spelled out as being prohibited are okay.
Sorry I am new to this kinda style of playing. So I ask questions before I try and do something and waste my GM and other players time.
Now about purchasing them,as they are so in tune to Pathfinder society ethos and lore is the only way to get them is through scenarios or can you use Fame. That is something I do not get.If my Fame is high enough I can purchase a magic item up to that point?
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Yes, your Fame is the limiter on the value of magic items you can buy. There are three ways:
If it is on a Chronicle Sheet that you have earned, you can buy it.
If it is always available, you can buy it.
If your Fame is high enough you can buy it.
These things are outlined in the Guide to Organized Play.
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Unnecessary insult.Asked a question.Answered a question.
My paraphrasing.
To further clarify, the "Advanced" section spans pages 43 and 44. It is labeled "Advanced Ioun Stones", and covers the cost formula for upgrading an existing Ioun Stone into a custom item.
It did not appear to me that the OP was aware of the Additional Resources page, so I linked it, as I have done in response to countless other threads with questions about legality. Since nobody had provided such a link as of yet, I felt that was my most appropriate contribution to the discussion.
Please put more thought into your posts before casually handing out personal insults. They contribute nothing to the discussion, and make the forums a more hostile environment.
Thank you.
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Unnecessary insult.Asked a question.Answered a question.My paraphrasing.
To further clarify, the "Advanced" section spans pages 43 and 44. It is labeled "Advanced Ioun Stones", and covers the cost formula for upgrading an existing Ioun Stone into a custom item.
It did not appear to me that the OP was aware of the Additional Resources page, so I linked it, as I have done in response to countless other threads with questions about legality. Since nobody had provided such a link as of yet, I felt that was my most appropriate contribution to the discussion.
Please put more thought into your posts before casually handing out personal insults. They contribute nothing to the discussion, and make the forums a more hostile environment.
Thank you.
Perhaps my response was not appropriate.
I will maintain that assuming people have not looked at the Additional resources is just as insulting. It is made especially insulting given that you seemed to have not really read his post. If you had, you should have seen that an aspect of his question clearly references the additional resources, as nowhere in Seeker of Secrets does it make any suggestion that upgraded Ioun Stones are not legal in PFS, yet he pretty clearly had that impression, "From reading..."
I also had his confusion at one time and if I had posted and read your reply I would have been insulted.
All that aside, I do apologize. There were more diplomatic ways I could have made you aware that your post was, in my opinion, insulting.
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All stones other than upgradable are legal. Only stones that specifically say "stacks" are stackable. Any number in orbit but some GMs *cough* me *cough* do consider them a possible detriment in some social situations and a valid target for intelligent NPCs.What ones from Seekers of Secrets are usable and are all stones stackable or only those?
From reading it I think the only ones that can not be used are the upgraded ones but straight out of the book ones are okay? Plus,how many can you have in orbit at one time?
This is why all my characters (except Core) implant all of their ioun stones that they don't plan on putting in a wayfinder for a resonant power.
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Can a NPC try and grab one that's orbiting a PC's head? Is it just a CMB vs. CMD?An orbiting ioun stone is an attended object and benefits from its owner's defensive ability and magical protections. The CRB description doesn't give stats for grabbing or netting one, but a Steal manoeuvre, basically as you've described, sounds right, applying a +2 bonus if the grabber uses a butterfly net, landing net or similar small hand net.
Yep, that's how I've done it. Steal Maneuver. Be aware it provokes if you don't have Improved Steal. I don't think I ever knew what color Ioun Stone it was, but it was absorbing spells, so it had to go.
It's actually the combo I'm most proud of. I cast Paragon Surge and grabbed Eldritch Heritage (Verdant) allowing me to make a Steal Maneuver at 15' range to grab the darn stone, allowing our Sorceror to blast the BBEG. It made my GMs head explode, especially when I explained that the entire reason I'd put my racial Skill Focus in Knowledge Nature was because of the wide variety of available 1st level Bloodline Powers.
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This is why all my characters (except Core) implant all of their ioun stones that they don't plan on putting in a wayfinder for a resonant power.All stones other than upgradable are legal. Only stones that specifically say "stacks" are stackable. Any number in orbit but some GMs *cough* me *cough* do consider them a possible detriment in some social situations and a valid target for intelligent NPCs.What ones from Seekers of Secrets are usable and are all stones stackable or only those?
From reading it I think the only ones that can not be used are the upgraded ones but straight out of the book ones are okay? Plus,how many can you have in orbit at one time?
I would assume that your PCs have never implanted a clear spindle Ioun stone?
I am still unsure if you [i]can[/]i implant any more Ioun stones after you implant that one. Or if you have a Ring of Sustenance....
Edit: How can you fast if you don't need to eat?
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None of my PCs own a clear spindle ioun stone or use its resonant power. IMO it:
a) isn't cricket
b) affects a vanishingly small number of situations in PFS.
Therefore, my assumption, for once, was correct. None of yoru PCs have ever implanted a clear spindle Ioun stone.
BTW, implanted, it can not, of course, be inserted into a wayfinder, so its resonant power is moot.
And the basic power of the clear spindle is, basically, a weaker version of the Ring of Sustenance. Despite being almost double the cost, as appropriate for a slotless version of the same item.
They should have made it cost 5,000 go, and made it identical in function to the 2,500 gp Ring of Sustenance.
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This is why all my characters (except Core) implant all of their ioun stones that they don't plan on putting in a wayfinder for a resonant power.All stones other than upgradable are legal. Only stones that specifically say "stacks" are stackable. Any number in orbit but some GMs *cough* me *cough* do consider them a possible detriment in some social situations and a valid target for intelligent NPCs.What ones from Seekers of Secrets are usable and are all stones stackable or only those?
From reading it I think the only ones that can not be used are the upgraded ones but straight out of the book ones are okay? Plus,how many can you have in orbit at one time?
After actually reading the information on implanting them, the checks to implant them seem pretty severe. They should probably be overseen(signed off) by a GM due to the nature of the event...
The body must be cleansed by fasting for a period of at least 3 days. If the fast is broken or interrupted, the process must begin anew. At the end of the fast, the owner makes a DC 20 Charisma check; taking 10 is not permitted on this check. Success indicates the stone has bonded with the owner, and may be implanted...Failing the check means the owner must start over.
Once the owner establishes this bond with the stone, he can have it implanted in his body, which takes 1 hour. This requires a DC 25 Heal check (with a –5 penalty if the owner is the one performing the surgery) and a DC 25 Knowledge (arcana) check to succeed. Failure inflicts 1d6 points of Constitution damage and means the implantation process must start again. Success binds the stone on the surface of the owner’s skin in a location of his choice (usually the head, arm, or hand), where it becomes one with the owner’s flesh, deals him 1d2 points of Constitution damage (which he can heal naturally or with
magic).
Ther reasoning I have behind this is that:
If the damage to your Constitution is equal to or greater than your Constitution score, you die. Unless otherwise noted, damage to your ability scores is healed at the rate of 1 per day to each ability score that has been damaged. Ability damage can be healed through the use of spells, such as lesser restoration.
You can take enough CON damage to kill a PC by multiple implantation failures.
