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Way to go, Benn.

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Congratulations James.

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Lehnæighyah Variyah wrote:
Brian Lefebvre wrote:
Until you hit a scenario where you're suppose to keep your membership in the society a secret, and you pull out a wayfinder every time you cast a spell.
Wouldn't you just shrug, put away the wayfinder, and put an extra hand on your longsword instead?

Intimidating a witness won't prevent you from failing a primary or secondary success condition.

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Gladhandling with a Dayjob is mentioned in a FAQ

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Starglim wrote:
Rigby Bendele wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Well, you could have one half price if you used a wayfinder as an arcane bond item.
Normally not an option (arcane bond is limited to amulet, ring, staff, wand, or weapon) but you can take the Pathfinder's Focus trait from the PFS Primer to be allowed to do so.
That would actually be a really tempting option, if only I hadn't spent 12,000 gp last level on the bonded item I already have.

Until you hit a scenario where you're suppose to keep your membership in the society a secret, and you pull out a wayfinder every time you cast a spell.

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The PRD and Archives of Nethys aren't a legal source, and you need to own the source you are picking from.

If you own the Advanced Race Guide, Inner Sea Races and the Dragon Empire Primer you pick a single source you want to use.

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In Pathfinder you can't even form a wall of force into a hemisphere or ball.

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Gary Bush wrote:
Brian Lefebvre wrote:
Mike also required players to have a physical character sheet. If a player is only using a digital device to play their character, and it fails. Forcing them to use a pregen to finish the adventure. If bad stuff then happens to that pregen later in the game, The chronicle should be locked on the real character that the player began the game with.
This would be true if GMs are following the Guide and handing out unsign chronicle sheets before the game for the player to fill out the top information. But alas, it appears that most GMs don't follow the guide with regards to chronicle sheets.

At the start of a slot all GMs should have passed around a reporting/sign-in sheet. The basic downloaded sheet collects character name, character number and faction. At the end of the game the GM still needs to fill in success conditions A,B,C,D as well as prestige earned.

What I was talking about the ruling that if you're using a pregen during a game and bad stuff happens. You can reassign the chronicle to a different character number. Pregen credit was originally intended for character -3. It dies, you can't afford to raise it, so you reassign the game to character -99. Allowing you to keep -3 safe. The problem is that ruling was made during a period that required players to have a physical copy of a character sheet. The current ruling allows players to not have a physical character sheet.

The current rule of no physical sheet required can now lead to players needing to swap to a pregen in the middle of a game. All I was saying was if a player needed to swap during a game. They shouldn't be able to re-assign the chronicle if bad stuff happens to the pregen, and it should be locked on the character the player began the session with. Because they should not be rewarded for not being properly prepared.

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James McTeague wrote:

Yeah, +2 players will bring down the challenge level a bunch.

Also, I tend to make it harder just from experience, seeing as I've ran Part 1 6 times now...

Or nearly doubling the group's size with familiars, animal companions and eidolons.

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Kahel Stormbender wrote:
Current ruling is just "have a character sheet you don't mind handing to the GM if requested". Which was made JUST as my printer ran out of ink. So yay? I do like having a physical backup copy anyway. Because I might need my laptop to look up info on my gear or a rules issue I'm unfamiliar with. Or my laptop may be getting low on power, so I have to save and shut it down.

Hence why I said Mike's original ruling on the topic. Describing it as the original ruling means that it's been replaced with a newer ruling.

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Kahel Stormbender wrote:

Nope, the requirement is to have a character sheet in a format you're comfortable handing the GM. That's why I'll bring my tablet if I can't get a print out (due to no ink left). My tablet's a couple years old, and wasn't that expensive. I'm far more comfortable handing that to the GM to audit my char sheet or prove book ownership then my $300 laptop.

I prefer having a physical as my backup. But for the convention I'll probably bring 2 electronic backups too.

I was referring to Mike Brock's original ruling on the topic, hence why I said Mike required players to have a physical character sheet.

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godsDMit wrote:
And at one point, Mike more or less said that if your pregen died, you could change the tracker sheet to pick another character to apply the chronicle to. But I'll probably need TOZ to find the link for me again cause I'm sure I'm mis-stating it again and the next twenty posters will show up to tell me I'm wrong.

Mike also required players to have a physical character sheet. If a player is only using a digital device to play their character, and it fails. Forcing them to use a pregen to finish the adventure. If bad stuff then happens to that pregen later in the game, The chronicle should be locked on the real character that the player began the game with.

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No on both counts. Your character has to be the one to make a day job check, and they can't be assisted while making the roll.

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Once you pick a class, class feature or feat after leveling up, it is set in stone once you play that character until you spend the prescribed resources to rebuild/retrain it. Having multiple versions of a character to pick from goes against this campaign rule.

If there is an ambiguous Pathfinder RPG rule debate that the GM and player can't resolve at the table. The player should play with the questionable items inert for the session, or until an official ruling can be found during play.

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The side effect of choosing character options that are unclear.

Don't build a house on quicksand.

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You're forgetting option #3. The Divine caster is played with the feat and familiar being inert for that session.

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Nefreet wrote:
Brian Lefebvre wrote:
the resolution still needs to fall within the boundaries of campaign rules. Which means you can't be walking around with multiple versions of a single character to be selected based on the table you're sitting at.
I am unfamiliar with this rule. Is your position itself an instance of table variation?

I think you're confusing the difference between Pathfinder RPG game rules and the PFS Campaign rules. A player and GM working out a rules debate on a Pathfinder RPG rules issue, should not break a PFS campaign rule to do so.

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Nefreet wrote:
Brian Lefebvre wrote:
You are limited to one version of a character in PFS

And when that one version is disallowed based on an ambiguity in the rules? What if the player didn't see a problem, until facing this GM? What about against a "not at MY table" GM?

What's more helpful to the image of PFS, and the Campaign as a whole? Force a player to choose a Pregen, when they believe their character is legal? Disallow them entirely? Or have a backup version they can use, so they get to still play the character they want?

This would be nice to add to the Campaign Clarifications document. Until then, I'll continue to bring the two versions of my snake, and I'll keep suggesting others do the same. Until there's a decision, it's the most sensible practice.

If the player thinks it's legal then they should be able to explain their position, and perhaps sway the GM to their side. If both realize it's a gray spot. Then they will figure out a way to resolve the difference for that game, but the resolution still needs to fall within the boundaries of campaign rules. Which means you can't be walking around with multiple versions of a single character to be selected based on the table you're sitting at. If a GM or player is a problem, their local community will most likely find ways to exclude them, eliminating the problem person.

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You are limited to one version of a character in PFS unless you are using the resources to change things outlined in the retraining/rebuilding rules.

The best you're going to be able to do if an aspect of your character is questionable is ignore that item at the game, and play at a handicap.

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A necklace is not light armor, so no it couldn't. Bracers of Armor are also not classified as light armor, so Brawling wouldn't be a valid upgrade for them either.

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Jared Thaler wrote:
"this is a sword cane, but the cane part is an parasol (but doesn't give me any benefits" is stretching it, but comes down to GM call.

But every NPC in the game will only see it as a sword cane. Because otherwise the character is gaining a mechanical advantage making it an illegal reskin. They'll have to tell every GM before every game that they wield a sword cane that is decorated to look like a parasol. Since he has to always refer to it as a sword cane for mechanical reasons. It's pointless to reskin it. Because if the GM asks him what he is holding they should never describe it only as a parasol.

If the player wants a long lasting legal way to make a sword cane look like a parasol the character can buy a hat of disguise.

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There is a penalty for not keeping your character's paperwork in order. GMs are within their rights to force a player to use a pregen to play if their character is missing proper paperwork. It's just a matter of GM enforcement of the rules.

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Alexander Augunas wrote:

Compton AND Thursty? Now my thread's really a party!

Awaits the inevitable announcement of kitsune genocide in terror.

That's the theme of Monday's Blog. When they announce the focus of season 8 will be the PCs spearheading the extermination of all kitsune.

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Codanous wrote:

I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't trying to get any more bang for my buck than what the Sword Cane already offers.

I am perfectly happy with the responses that I got! Expect table variation is a better than no, 100% of the time. If occasionally I get to have a fun Sword Parasol and sometimes I have a completely adequate Sword Cane it is better than never having a Sword Parasol!

Especially since while the Sword Cane is a fun weapon, it isn't very good, but PFS shouldn't be all about optimization, sometimes it has to be about having fun too!

GMs not enforcing the rules doesn't make something legal either. You simply don't want to follow a campaign rule, and you're using whatever justification you can find in order to feel better about your decision.

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Codanous wrote:
Brian Lefebvre wrote:
Combining a parasol and a sword cane would not be legal under the current PFS campaign rules.

Right I agree, that is why I said,

Codanous wrote:
I'm not trying to mash two items together for cheese or anything, I just feel like my Sovereign Court Investigator would rather use a Sword Parasol than a Sword Cane.

As I said in my original post, I wasn't looking to combine two separate items, just add a little flavor to my noble lady who doesn't want to look foolish walking around with a cane, however a Parasol that seems sufficiently lady-like!

The responses so far have all been pretty much aligned with what I'd imagined they would be, "expect table variation". However I felt that I'd better cover my bases slightly by confirming that my very slight "reskin" wasn't completely preposterous like a Yellow Tengu and that at best I'd have to expect Table Variation.

You didn't ask if others thought it was a cool/fun idea. You asked if it was PFS legal to do it. Why you're doing something does not change whether it is campaign legal or not. You don't like the legal options, and you're looking for others to support your choice not to follow a rule.

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Kurald Galain wrote:
Aside from that specific adventure, you could perhaps play a Bladebound Magus and adopt Gamin as your black blade. Among other things, black blades become specifically immune to the 'broken' condition.

You can't make Gamin your blackblade. The blackblade is not like an arcane bonded weapon where you can swap in different items. The blackblade is a specific class feature that only has the abilities detailed under it's description.

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Combining a parasol and a sword cane would not be legal under the current PFS campaign rules.

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Gary Bush wrote:
Tonya Woldridge wrote:
In the event that a character sheet is no longer accessible due to a loss of battery power, the player may play the pregenerated character and apply the scenario’s rewards to his original character. In all cases where the GM applies one of the above remedies, rewards for all players are based on the lowest subtier played during the scenario.
This last part seem unfair to the other players who, by no fault of their own, could see the rewards reduced because of another player's action, or inaction.

If a player has a habit of not having physical backups to their digital device, and frequently having their device fail during a game. I think many players in their area will begin to avoid having them at the table.

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Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:
Brian Lefebvre wrote:
Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:
If you just sit on it for a while, play something else for a bit, the archetype might be made legal in the future.
That wouldn't make the illegal character legal, unless he paid all the retraining costs of making a basic magus into the "now legal" archetype.
My point is that if he stops playing it now, he doesn't have to rebuild it, and if it becomes legal he can resume playing it again.

Temporarily shelving the character would only be an option if the character was leveled entirely with GM credit from level 2+. He could only have player credit at level 1.

If he played his character to level 4. He would have to rebuild his character with options that were legal when the character was played, and then retrain into the archetype after it becomes legal.

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On the chronicle sheet you don't have to list everything you bought, and only include a total GP spent, but it doesn't hurt to do.

Just remember that everything you buy worth more than 25gp needs to listed on your Item Tracking Sheet, and there is an entry for the sequenced number of the chronicle the purchase was made.

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Paul Jackson wrote:
On the other hand, in PFS "I was just following orders", also CAN be a defence.

In PFS, following orders will defend most alignment infractions, but will not help a character with class code violations.

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We had our chance to stop him, but now he's spread himself online like Skynet. The world is doomed!!!

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Gary Bush wrote:
But it is a PFS house rule.

It isn't a house rule. It is a part of the Golarion setting, which PFS is set in.

Now when an archetype adds a feature to a class it's swapped out for something else. What do you want a paladin to give up to get their deity's favored weapon? Because the PFS campaign shouldn't be giving out extra class features to one particular class for free.

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Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:
If you just sit on it for a while, play something else for a bit, the archetype might be made legal in the future.

That wouldn't make the illegal character legal, unless he paid all the retraining costs of making a basic magus into the "now legal" archetype.

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I download the PDF and read it off my tablet.

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Once you start EotT the character is locked into the series until you're finished with the entire series. Which means that you can't apply any chronicle sheets to them until they have finished all 4 parts of Eyes.

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Nefreet wrote:

My response to something like an illegal build varies depending on its severity. I have two examples I'll use to highlight what I believe would be two different acceptable reactions.

I'd played maybe half a dozen sessions with my first PFS character and wanted to try out another. I statted up a Holy Gun and brought it to three sessions, leveling up to 2nd. At my 4th game, my GM caught the error. At that point I was still unaware of the Additional Resources document. He told me at the start of the game that I had an illegal character, but that he'd be willing to help me out after the game. He did just that, and I feel I learned a valuable GMing skill because of it.

On the other hand, I had a player show up at a Con with a 7th level "pregenerated" character. It was a Strix, he admitted he'd rolled really well on his stats, and he'd spent what the CRB told him was the appropriate gold amount on a few pricey items that would have likely been above his Fame level had the character actually been legal. I told him up front, even though we were pressed for time, that he'd have to use one of the other official Pregens, but that I'd be willing to help him out after the session to create something legal.

Both examples have inexperienced players using illegal options with too little time at the beginning of the session to correct the issue. The difference was the severity. A level 2 PC with an illegal archetype isn't as disruptive to the game or other players as a level 7 PC with an illegal flying race with overpowered stats and items.

Sure, you could heavy handedly tell each player immediately "No!", or you could tell each player "Sure!", but I think it's better to take it all in context, and consider what's best for the group as well as the player, before coming to a decision.

The bolded portion says that you support the GM having the option to make a decision that best benefits the individual player or table. The problem is that to do so you support the GM's ability to choose to ignore campaign rules to enhance that table's experience.

When someone shows up with an illegal character. The GM should just explain what PFS is and why the person's own character can't be used. Then give them their options to participate. Then let them choose the option they wish to use. Even if it means they choose to walk away. A GM shouldn't ever resort to allowing an illegal character into a game, even if it's just a one time thing.

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Nefreet wrote:

There are usually two trains on thought when it comes to Fly: GMs that enforce the Fly rules, and GMs that don't.

It actually becomes a problem at Cons, IME. People may have played their entire careers with GMs that never enforced the rules while drinking their potions of Fly with an Armor Check Penalty of −6 (canceling out the bonus from the potion).

I'll always remember my interaction with the player of a 7th level Paladin who looked me dead in the eyes and asked, "Are you serious? Nobody does that."

Since I enforce the Fly rules, I make sure my flying characters have a +19 bonus ASAP. That way I'm safe no matter which GM I sit down with.

Nefreet, in this post, in another thread, you mention you enforce the skill checks involved with the fly skill even if the players aren't required to make them by their local GMs. Why don't you allow them to ignore the skill checks if they want?

Why is it important to enforce skill checks to fly, when you say it should be okay to ignore some campaign rules, some of the time, to ensure players are having fun? When the players can have as much fun playing by all the rules after the organizer/GM explains things to them.

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Talk to the owner of the store, and tell him about the cause of the fall in attendance, and mention that you might need to take corrective action against the players harming the community. Most store owners will be very interested in anything that could harm their business.

Then talk to the players in private and tell them that you have had complaints that they aren't being team players, and if they don't start working on contributing more to the games that you'll need to ask them find a new group to play with.

Clearly tell them the problem, how they can improve, and the consequences. The important thing is to be clear about what they need to do, so it will be up to them to comply. If they choose not to comply with the warnings to improve their attitude. Then you shouldn't feel bad about having to ask them to leave.

If they end up getting banned from that location they can always try running a game of their own.

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CatManDu wrote:

Regarding combining the four elemental-kin boons, can I still create a Suli if three have the "Elemental Dilettante" wording and one does not?

If "no", could anyone please help me out by trading my "non-Dilettante" Oread boon for an Oread boon that has the required language? Thanks!

Only one of the four would need the text detailing the rules of combining all four to create a Suli character.

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First bullet point under the prestige table on pg. 26. Which points back to pg. 23 of the campaign guide under conditions, death and expendables. The soul was removed from the body, so the effect (I assume a spell or curse) that triggered it would need to be cleared before the end of the game or the character gets marked as dead.

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The condition that needs to be cleared is not having the character's soul in its original body.

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The character would need to have the condition removed, and returned to their own body, or get marked as dead.

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The Guide says that you can change the name during the level 1 rebuild, but it is not an option available for retraining after level 2.

You can call your character anything you want during the game, but the name should be kept the same for all of its paperwork.

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If you use a level 7 pregen you have to assign it to a character who is level 6 or lower, but you do not apply the chronicle sheet to the character until they hit level 7.

Now for example if the character is 6.2 and plays a mod worth 3xp. You would then jump to 7.2, add then add the waiting pregen credit. Which would bump you to level 8.

If a character hits 7 and they have a pile of 7-11 pregen credits assigned to a character. The pregen credits are applied chronologically in the order that they were played/assigned, and the character is leveled as appropriate. This leveling can affect if they get in-subtier or out-of-subtier rewards for certain chronicle sheets.

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nosig wrote:
That's interesting, I've not seen or heard of that race before now. what's the wording on the new Boons? can a person use one New (say a new Aasimar boon) and one old (an older Tiefling boon) to make one, or does one have to use two newer boons...

One of the two boons used would need the extra text detailing the rules to merge the two into a new race option.

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Da Wander wrote:

I think you can put it on Bracers of Armor...I think. And there may be other ways...

Later you might get a Pearl of Power (or the thing like it for Sorcerers)... So that it lasts all day

While you can normally add most magical armor special abilities to Bracers of Armor. Brawling can only be added to light armor, and Bracers of Armor are not classified as light armor.

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savokk wrote:

You can slow track Eyes of the Ten.

Link .

Although all other rules apply, so it doesn't seem worth it. Because you would not hit level 13 during EotT if you were slow track.

That thread is from before the current rules were put in place, so it is no longer relevant.

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Looking at the Qadira trade prince vanity in the FAQ. Upgrading an item is not a purchase.

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I believe slow track was only allowed during the grandfathering period of time when Eyes was put on a hard 33xp limit to start.

Before the 33xp hard cap to start a lot of people had Race for the Runecarved Key xp or Ruby Phoenix Tournament putting them over 33, and they needed to play parts of Eyes on slow to keep from hitting 14 before they finished part 4.

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