Wildblood sorcerer and cross-blood sorcerer


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Grand Lodge

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My brother can take both archetype in pathfinder society or not?

If cannot, my brother wants to take empyreal bloodline, but also want a familiar. How to do that without multiclass?


This is a rules question and not pfs specific, I have flagged it to be moved.

Grand Lodge

AFAIK, yes you can take both of those bloodlines. The standard rule applies. As long as the powers/abilities replaced by either of the archetypes is not shared by both, then you can combine them.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

The first question seemed pretty PFS-specific to me.

Anyway, yes, you can do it in PFS.

As for a familiar without multiclassing, I have to wonder why? Familiars are a weak choice and this build is clearly intended to be a min/maxed terror. Anyway, you can't do it without multiclassing.


Well, it depends on how technical PFS is on the rules (which incidentally may make it ok for this thread).

All wildblooded bloodlines have a modified bloodline arcana.

The crossblooded archetype has an impact on the bloodline arcana feature of the sorcerer class, in that it allows you to take the arcanas of two different bloodlines.

I think the question Mark wants to ask is whether or not this counts as 'modifying' the arcana (as opposed to adding an additional class feature) for the purpose of excluding archetypes that modify the same class feature.

Liberty's Edge

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There is also the Eldritch Heritage feat option as well.


Shisumo wrote:
There is also the Eldritch Heritage feat option as well.

I'm guessing from the mention of the empyreal bloodline that CHA is a dump-stat. XD

Anyway, ARG has this line:

"A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features, but none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the core class as another alternate class feature."

I'm thinking of it this way: the base class would be a celestial sorcerer. The wild-blooded Empyreal bloodline alters the 9th-level bloodline ability, and changes the arcana.

From here, the cross-blooded archetype could be read two ways: either it 'changes' the arcana (by adding another one, creating a conflict) or adds another arcana (no conflict). Seems like it would be a GM-call in a home game, but I'm curious about how Lord Gold-helm sees this. XD

In either event, I reckon that the character would need to take the 9th-level Empyreal bloodline ability at 9th level to prevent the archetypes from conflicting.

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This is very similar to the Qinggong Monk Archetype as far as rules-lawyering: The Cross-Blooded Sorcerer gains both Bloodline Arcanas and then chooses between either Bloodline Power at each interval. Thus if combined with Wild-Blooded, you would gain both Arcanas and would be forced to choose the Bloodline Power granted by your Wild-Blooded choice. Since you are not giving-up anything that Wild-Blooded gives you by taking Cross-Blooded, I do not see why they cannot stack.

If you would like a familiar by another way: taking Eldrith Heritage in the Arcane Bloodline grants you a familiar, or Improved Eldritch Heritage in the Serpentine Bloodline grants a Viper familiar.


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FAQ'ed 10/23/2013 - Crossblooded + Wildblooded not allowed (without GM permission)

Sorcerer, Crossblooded and Wildblooded: Can I take both of these archetypes for the same character?

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