| 3 people marked this as a favorite. |
If I wanted to know about a movie's artistic value, I'd ask a critic. If I wanted to know about a movie's fun value, I most certainly wouldn't ask a movie critic.
Those reviews were in the 90's at first. Lets see what that Audience score is after two weeks in wide release. I think the more people see the movie the lower that audience score is going to get. And I honestly dont see that critic score getting above 60%.Slippery slope fallacy
Maybe.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Oh come on, jungle book cannot hope to rake in a lot of cash. It probably won't even dent the box office.Seriously?Yeah? I see it as nothing else but a cash grab to bank in on 40+ years of nostalgia in most adults living today.
Ok, ShinHakkaider, you were right, I was wrong.
Are you saying that a movie named "Batman vs Superman" is not a cash grab?
Have I?
That's what you seemed to be implying.
|
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Yeah? I see it as nothing else but a cash grab to bank in on 40+ years of nostalgia in most adults living today.Oh come on, jungle book cannot hope to rake in a lot of cash. It probably won't even dent the box office.Seriously?
I was shocked more at your "It probably won't even dent the box office." comment. Most knowledgeable people I've heard feel the Jungle Book will make a massive amount of money and will most likely even get nominated for some big awards.
I had forgotten about supergirl movie completely and had to look it up online. Wonder if I can still purchase it on laser disc?You could just skip the middleman and throw your money in the garbage bin. XD
She's very good as Eliza Danvers in the TV show too.
She's very good as Eliza Danvers in the TV show too.I had forgotten about supergirl movie completely and had to look it up online. Wonder if I can still purchase it on laser disc?You could just skip the middleman and throw your money in the garbage bin. XD
she's in the tv show?! Now I GOTTA watch.
COOOOOOOOOOL
| 6 people marked this as a favorite. |
I dare say The Jungle Boom will beat the crap out of BvS when it comes to being a critical and financial success...
Huh... Who could imagine that in a battle between Batman and Superman, the one giving the beating would be Mogli... XD
Vendor - Fantasiapelit Tampere
|
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I dare say The Jungle Boom will beat the crap out of BvS when it comes to being a critical and financial success...
Huh... Who could imagine that in a battle between Batman and Superman, the one giving the beating would be Mogli... XD
In my opinion it certainly is better. Jungle Book was a ton of fun to watch.
Well, Jon Favreau is an infinitely better filmmaker with a far better sense for character and tone than Snyder
To be fair... That isn't saying much. XD
Okay, okay... There's some hyperbole there for comedic reasons... But most of Snyder's works are... mediocre at best. They usually have good, sometimes even great, visuals... But the plot (and characters) is usually full of holes, rushed, dull and/or forgettable.
I enjoyed 300 and Watchmen, more than BvS.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I enjoyed 300 and Watchmen, more than BvS.
I loved 300.
I... appreciated Watchmen. It has stunning visuals, as expected... But the story was rushed. I felt I'd be somewhat lost and confused if I hadn't read the novel beforehand.
I never read either graphic novel before the movies.
I followed along ok...
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Might have been just my impression... Although the pacing didn't feel "natural", either.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Might have been just my impression... Although the pacing didn't feel "natural", either.
FINALLY!
EVERYONE said I was crazy that the pacing for the movie was off, but I KNEW it wasn't right. It was as if he made the movie on a tight timeline and was rushing he way through.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Might have been just my impression... Although the pacing didn't feel "natural", either.
That I won't argue. The pacing could have been better, but that seems to plague all of his films.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Might have been just my impression... Although the pacing didn't feel "natural", either.FINALLY!
EVERYONE said I was crazy that the pacing for the movie was off, but I KNEW it wasn't right. It was as if he made the movie on a tight timeline and was rushing he way through.
True... But to be fair... There's a lot of material to cover in a Watchmen adaptation. And I mean a lot. It'd be really difficult not to rush it without making it at least 2 movies.
This doesn't make the movie's pacing any better, of course, but in this particular case... It's understandable.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Snyder's first feature film was the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake written by James Gunn (Guardians of the Galaxy). I thought that it was pretty damn good.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Might have been just my impression... Although the pacing didn't feel "natural", either.FINALLY!
EVERYONE said I was crazy that the pacing for the movie was off, but I KNEW it wasn't right. It was as if he made the movie on a tight timeline and was rushing he way through.
WATCHMEN needed a TV Mini-series treatment 10 Episodes on HBO or something like that. There's just WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much content to fit into the confines of a 3+ hour movie to do the story it's full justice.
I like WATCHMEN up until the very ending (and it's not that they changed the squid out, I'm actually fine with that change) where it seems that the change that was made pretty much negates the entire point of the movie.
He definitely gets the visuals but anything else? Shaky.
|
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Here's your weekly BvS money report:
5.5M this weekend, bringing domestic up to 320M. 40% fall off from last weekend. There is one more good weekend in the States before Civil War, so expect another 2-3M, plus whatever it pulls in during the week. Last weekend it was still playing on over 3000 screens, so that's still impressive for as underwhelming as its domestic take has been. 530M internationally puts it over the 850M mark, but despite my previous optimism, the fact that it brought in only 60M over the entire last week globally bodes ill for the chance to break the 1B marker.
Deadpool still managed to show on 600 screens this weekend, pulling in over half a million. Domestic total now over 360M. BvS is unequivocally never going to pass Deadpool in the domestic market at this point, even with a far fetched Zeno Paradox.
Since Shere Khan's prophecies about the man-cub rang true, lets see how Mowgli is *burning* up the charts... Weekend 1 had a decent 100M showing, and this past weekend followed up with 60M, bringing total domestic take to just shy of 200M. An international take of 350M additional has pushed the little man-cub who could over the half a bil marker. It needs to pull in a solid additional 300M to overtake Deadpool, and has no chance of catching up to BvS's foreign cash coffers.
Worldwide premiere of Civil War starts this weekend, with one more week before the States enjoys the sweet Cap v Ironman: Dawn of Spidey action. I'll probably move my analysis over there next time, as Deadpool is probably gonna fall of the map, and BvS take its place as the comparative footnote.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
It doesn't matter whether or not they fire Synder or not, as long as they keep the same "must be grim and joyless" mandate in place.
|
Vendor - Fantasiapelit Tampere
|
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I don't remember if this has been posted here yet, but this is kinda messed up. I'm glad if they kick him out.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
To be fair, you can make anyone say anything if you're good enough at cherry-picking and quote-mining...
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Oh, they know what to do, they just won't have the gonads to take him out back and put him out of our misery. They're "too invested" in his Heavy Metal does Ayn Rand b~%@+&#~ and John's blood + guts arm ripping stupidily to fire them and push JL back so it can be properly recalibrated.So flash director is out due to a creative differences excuse. James Wan is apparently squirming with Aquaman, and the studio doesn't know what to do with Snyder. Not really surprising.
It might not be that easy for them...Pulling Snyder and starting from scratch on the Justice League could badly hurt sales for Suicide Squad and Wonderwoman, who are either already in the can or fairly advanced in their production. If Studios don't have confidence in their own product (or at least are perceived to have confidence), it sends a bad message to the public
Plus they have an entire jenga tower of movie releases all tied into the Justice League. Reworking Justice League would require moving production back or rewriting those movies, and possibly recasting/hiring new people, since you can't expect actors and directors are under contract just to put off or not take other roles/jobs while waiting for the dust to settle.
This is probably one of the best reasons why starting off the DCverse with team movies is such a horrible idea. If you led with a bunch of stand alones, than you could course correct the other stand alones if they don't do well or underperform, with a lot less effort. Hard to do that if most of your main characters show up at once.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Well WB right now is banking on Suicide Squad being there ace in the hole, the movie that proves that the DCU can make money. I think they are going to keep a tight lid on any internal discussions until that movie is released.
If they nuke everything now, than the DCU as a whole will go up in flames. That is, I think in there minds, worse than a underperforming JL movie.
WB is almost certainly putting pressure on Snyder to "correct course" on JL and there seems to be a lot of drama going on there right now.
On a random note, oh I found a funny quote from Snyder last fall:
"But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman. They’re not just, like, the flavor of the week Ant-Man—not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man?”
Which is funny given that the next movie that antman shows up in looks like it is going to annihilate B v S.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I'd say that Iron Man was a B lister, but then the studio put a good director in charge of the movie and cast a good actor as Tony Stark.
Heh. I wonder if Snyder found the success of Guardians of the Galaxy to be utterly incomprehensible.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I think that in this instance; "A-lister", "B-lister", etc are more in reference to how recognizable the character is to non-comic readers, than to any level of power or importance within the Marvel Universe.
Marvel is unlike DC, where their A-list (Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman) also happen to be the most important AND most powerful characters in the fictional universe. (Don't anyone even attempt to argue that Batman isn't one of the most powerful characters in DC. His superpower is writer bias. He survived the goddamn Omega Sanction, for Odin's sake.)
Meanwhile, Marvel's A-list characters are both less important and less powerful. The only one that is really on the same level as DC's trinity is Spider-Man...and he's a city-level hero. The only other character that really approaches that level (before comic book movies began to elevate some characters) is Wolverine...again, not nearly as crucial to the universe or anywhere near as powerful.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I'll give you Hulk but I think if you asked the average person who Captain America was (prior to the MCU), they would draw a blank.
Really I think the only Marvel A-listers, as far as being recognizable, are Spiderman, Hulk, and X-men. The folks at Marvel films have basically stated that it was very unlikely the first MCU movie would have been Iron-man if they had access to the full list of Marvel properties. Look at how Spiderman has pushed back all the other MCU properties that were in development.
Iron Man and Cap are almost certain A-list now, but that is pretty much thanks to the MCU, not the comics.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Iron Man and Captain America were the only two Marvel comics I read as a kid. So I'm not sure that's correct. :-)