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Freehold DM wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
Well, I hope that dark gritty and grimdark starts to vanish by the time Wonder Woman comes up. Suicide Squad- there it fits the bill better. But Shazam is the least grim thing ever. So are the Flash, Booster Gold & Blue Beetle and Green Lantern Corps. At least Goyer is not writing those movies and Snyder not directing.
BLUE AND GOLD!

Starring Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion, respectively.


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Abed Nadir wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
Well, I hope that dark gritty and grimdark starts to vanish by the time Wonder Woman comes up. Suicide Squad- there it fits the bill better. But Shazam is the least grim thing ever. So are the Flash, Booster Gold & Blue Beetle and Green Lantern Corps. At least Goyer is not writing those movies and Snyder not directing.
BLUE AND GOLD!
Starring Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion, respectively.

shudder


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The ə! wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Norman Osborne wrote:

Freehold wants a GRIMDARK and GRITTY Wonder Twins film.

Form of...WATER! REALLY DARK AND GRITTY WATER!!!

I WANT SILT AND SHARP PEBBLES IN THAT WATER
Meh. I'd only be interested if Zan turned into tequila, and Jayna was addicted to the fame of appearing in funny animal videos on Youtube.

That.... Is a much cleaner version of what Jayne would be doing in a dark and gritty version of Wonder Twins if I was writing it.


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Well, apparently they will be going with dark and gritty The Tick


*blink* o.O


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Caineach wrote:
Well, apparently they will be going with dark and gritty The Tick

as stated in the thread on the topic, the comic wad a lot darker than the cartoon or live action series. When it wasn't being silly.

Liberty's Edge

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Also, based on Edlund's comments grittier and more grounded means less episodic wackiness and more character and consequence driven stories, not the Tick turning into the Maxx.

Sovereign Court

Seen the movie again, and aside from some annoying brats that wouldn't shut up during the whole movie, which just reinforced my desire never to have children ever, I liked it even more this time.

Luthor is not really THAT annoying.
Batman still very awesome
Superman really troubled and conflicted.
Wonder woman was amazing.

Spoiler:
Doomsday was still too much, and superman's death

All in all a very enjoyable film with an AMAZING score.


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It Begins


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What to expend for BvS second weekend sales


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I really enjoyed it
Look forward to the full league in action


I actually will have time this Sunday to go see the movie,if I want. Now I'm on the fence about seeing it in the theater what with all the negative press about it.

Sovereign Court

It's worth the cash. Just don't shell out for 3D. That's needless really.


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Yes, 3d in theaters gives me a headache for some reason.


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Molten Dragon wrote:
I actually will have time this Sunday to go see the movie,if I want. Now I'm on the fence about seeing it in the theater what with all the negative press about it.

Go see Zootopia. Save BvS for when it's released on blu-ray. Not worth ticket money, IMHO.

Dark Archive Vendor - Fantasiapelit Tampere

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Abed Nadir wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
Well, I hope that dark gritty and grimdark starts to vanish by the time Wonder Woman comes up. Suicide Squad- there it fits the bill better. But Shazam is the least grim thing ever. So are the Flash, Booster Gold & Blue Beetle and Green Lantern Corps. At least Goyer is not writing those movies and Snyder not directing.
BLUE AND GOLD!
Starring Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion, respectively.

See, I'm more on the line of Justin Timberlake as Booster Gold and Adam Scott as Blue Beetle.


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Rosgakori wrote:
Abed Nadir wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
Well, I hope that dark gritty and grimdark starts to vanish by the time Wonder Woman comes up. Suicide Squad- there it fits the bill better. But Shazam is the least grim thing ever. So are the Flash, Booster Gold & Blue Beetle and Green Lantern Corps. At least Goyer is not writing those movies and Snyder not directing.
BLUE AND GOLD!
Starring Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion, respectively.
See, I'm more on the line of Justin Timberlake as Booster Gold and Adam Scott as Blue Beetle.

Booster Gold needs to look more like a full on pro athlete than Justin Timberlake.

Dark Archive Vendor - Fantasiapelit Tampere

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GreyWolfLord wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
Abed Nadir wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
Well, I hope that dark gritty and grimdark starts to vanish by the time Wonder Woman comes up. Suicide Squad- there it fits the bill better. But Shazam is the least grim thing ever. So are the Flash, Booster Gold & Blue Beetle and Green Lantern Corps. At least Goyer is not writing those movies and Snyder not directing.
BLUE AND GOLD!
Starring Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion, respectively.
See, I'm more on the line of Justin Timberlake as Booster Gold and Adam Scott as Blue Beetle.
Booster Gold needs to look more like a full on pro athlete than Justin Timberlake.

If it's about muscles or body structure, I think he can buff himself up if needed. I just see him easily being a good counterpart to Adam Scott in terms of overall body language and outlook.

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Booster is a former high school athelete who was working as a rent a cop, not a professional athelete.

Dark Archive

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I thought that the dude who played Booster in the Smallville show did a good job of it. If not for casting confusion, the dude who plays Eddie Thawne in Flash might work as well.


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Krensky wrote:

Booster is a former high school athelete who was working as a rent a cop, not a professional athelete.

he was a professional athlete who started to gamble on his own games. One of the only jobs he could get after being caught was that of a rent-a-cop/janitor.

Liberty's Edge

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Freehold DM wrote:
Krensky wrote:

Booster is a former high school athelete who was working as a rent a cop, not a professional athelete.

he was a professional athlete who started to gamble on his own games. One of the only jobs he could get after being caught was that of a rent-a-cop/janitor.

He was the quarterback for Gotham University until his gambler father made him throw games and then got expelled.

So while he almost certainly played in high school and there's that whole NCAA amature exploitation thing, we were both wrong.

Sovereign Court

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Ok this is not good. I assume there'll be some who'll be gloating.

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No Hama, it's a good thibg. Hopefully its the Rock bottom WB needs to realize they need to fire Snyder and stop making horrible superhero movies.


Krensky wrote:
No Hama, it's a good thing. Hopefully its the Rock bottom WB needs to realize they need to fire Snyder and stop making horrible superhero movies.

One can only hope...


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Hama wrote:
Ok this is not good. I assume there'll be some who'll be gloating.

It seems to have done better on Saturday, as it's cumulative drop this weekend is now only 68%, which is more within the normal range for second weekend blockbusters. Still not good, though.

Liberty's Edge

137ben wrote:
Hama wrote:
Ok this is not good. I assume there'll be some who'll be gloating.
It seems to have done better on Saturday, as it's cumulative drop this weekend is now only 68%, which is more within the normal range for second weekend blockbusters. Still not good, though.

Considering that it needs to make close to a billion dollars it's really not good.


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If you want to see a good DC Comics movie, save your money for this wonderful production!

It's like a dream come true!

Liberty's Edge

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Lemmy wrote:

If you want to see a good DC Comics movie, save your money for this wonderful production!

It's like a dream come true!

As I said before, WB needz to take their live action film budget and give it to the DC Animation and Arrow-verse people.


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Krensky wrote:
Lemmy wrote:

If you want to see a good DC Comics movie, save your money for this wonderful production!

It's like a dream come true!

As I said before, WB needz to take their live action film budget and give it to the DC Animation and Arrow-verse people.

It's kinda amazing how good the animation department is compared to most DC live-action movies. :P

Warner has a great history with animation. It basically revitalized the media back in the 90's with wonderful cartoons (such as Animaniacs and Batman TAS) and has kept a (mostly) good track record ever since.


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137ben wrote:
Hama wrote:
Ok this is not good. I assume there'll be some who'll be gloating.
It seems to have done better on Saturday, as it's cumulative drop this weekend is now only 68%, which is more within the normal range for second weekend blockbusters. Still not good, though.

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Considering that it had no competition this weekend and had such a sharp drop? Just 52 million domestically this weekend? No that's not good at all. It'll definitely break even and more but considering the amount of money that went into marketing this movie? Yikes.


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Lemmy wrote:

If you want to see a good DC Comics movie, save your money for this wonderful production!

It's like a dream come true!

What production is that? I clicked and a takedown notice was at the top of the page. I'd hate to think I missed out because my body requires occasional sleep.

Liberty's Edge

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The Killing Joke.


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Grey Lensman wrote:
Lemmy wrote:

If you want to see a good DC Comics movie, save your money for this wonderful production!

It's like a dream come true!

What production is that? I clicked and a takedown notice was at the top of the page. I'd hate to think I missed out because my body requires occasional sleep.

Ugh... Stupid Warner Bros copyright claim... ¬¬

Check it out!


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Hama wrote:
Ok this is not good. I assume there'll be some who'll be gloating.

yup, lots of gloating.


Lemmy wrote:
Krensky wrote:
Lemmy wrote:

If you want to see a good DC Comics movie, save your money for this wonderful production!

It's like a dream come true!

As I said before, WB needz to take their live action film budget and give it to the DC Animation and Arrow-verse people.

It's kinda amazing how good the animation department is compared to most DC live-action movies. :P

Warner has a great history with animation. It basically revitalized the media back in the 90's with wonderful cartoons (such as Animaniacs and Batman TAS) and has kept a (mostly) good track record ever since.

it's not going to happen.

Scarab Sages

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Hama wrote:
Ok this is not good. I assume there'll be some who'll be gloating.

Well, that sucks. Not surprising in the least. While I personally enjoyed the movie, it wasn't the greatest. Just goes to show that DC needs someone far more talented running their live-action movies.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Hama wrote:
Ok this is not good. I assume there'll be some who'll be gloating.
yup, lots of gloating.

Considering all of the DC fans who were heralding the success of this movie as proof that the Marvel movies suck and are made for children while the DC movies are made for adults? It would be hard for people NOT to get their gloat on.

Me? I think this is a GOLDEN AGE. I love the fact that there are so many Super-hero movies to choose from and the fact that a super-hero movie isnt a genre but a vehicle to TELL different genres within the super-hero framework. Do I like the idea of Batman as a casual killer using the weapon that he probably despises the most to do so? NO. and because of that I don't have to give DC/Warner Brothers my money for that movie. And I didnt. But ask me if I'm looking forward to SUICIDE SQUAD after that last trailer? HELL YES.

I'm a Marvel guy. But I love good super-hero movies / TV. Love THE FLASH, Like ARROW. Love DAREDEVIL and JESSICA JONES. Like AGENTS OF SHIELD (it could be a better show though...) havent watched SUPERGIRL yet (will binge when it's done this season). LOVE YOUNG JUSTICE and JL and JLU. Not a fan at all of AVENGERS ASSEMBLE or ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN.

I just want good stuff, but to me BATMAN v SUPERMAN looked like hot garbage served up in the guise of a seven course meal on a 90 degree day. And I LIKED MAN OF STEEL. In fact I'm liking it more and more upon repeat viewings. So for me to be repulsed by BvS? Especially after what I was told by people who saw it in early screenings? Nah. I'll wait for cable. But I wont wish for it to FAIL. That's just dickbaggery.

In fact if it was some kind of critical AND commercial success? That would have been FANTASTIC. More competition would have been a good thing,

I've been watching the box office carefully and it's no failure by any barometer. Depending on the final tally though I'm not sure it's exactly a resounding success either.

Dark Archive

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ShinHakkaider wrote:
Me? I think this is a GOLDEN AGE. I love the fact that there are so many Super-hero movies to choose from and the fact that a super-hero movie isnt a genre but a vehicle to TELL different genres within the super-hero framework.

Pretty much yes to all of this.

I love some DC characters and teams (like the Teen Titans, Young Justice, Legion of Super-Heroes, etc.) and I love some Marvel characters and teams (Young Avengers, New X-Men, Thunderbolts, X-Factor, etc.), so I've got horses in both races, and whoever 'wins,' I get a piece of the pie.

That said, there are DC movies that don't appeal to me (Nolan's Bat-trilogy), and Marvel movies that don't appeal to me (Age of Ultron), and I don't think that I'm a 'hater' for not uncritically adoring every hot steaming mess piled on my plate.

I want every superhero movie to be awesome, because the more the big tentpole characters (that I generally don't give a rat's butt about) like Superman and Iron Man and Wolverine succeed, the more likely I will be to see the characters I *really* like, like Hank Pym, Monica Rambeau, Vixen or Booster Gold.

I certainly don't want any of these movies to suck. I like superhero stuff. That would be cutting off my nose to spite my face!


Freehold DM wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
Krensky wrote:
Lemmy wrote:

If you want to see a good DC Comics movie, save your money for this wonderful production!

It's like a dream come true!

As I said before, WB needz to take their live action film budget and give it to the DC Animation and Arrow-verse people.

It's kinda amazing how good the animation department is compared to most DC live-action movies. :P

Warner has a great history with animation. It basically revitalized the media back in the 90's with wonderful cartoons (such as Animaniacs and Batman TAS) and has kept a (mostly) good track record ever since.

it's not going to happen.

Of course not, we're just saying it would be awesome.

Freehold DM wrote:
Hama wrote:
Ok this is not good. I assume there'll be some who'll be gloating.
yup, lots of gloating.

Well deserved, after hearing the BvS advocates saying that those who don't like the movie "just don't get it" or "are not real fans".

To me it's painfully obvious that the only reason people defend this movie is because it stars Batman and Superman, and also because DC fans really, really want to be able to say that DC made a movie as good as the Marvel ones... There's still this dumb competitive mentality on both sides.

I've been a fan of DC and Marvel ever since I was a little kid. I grew up reading all sorts of comics! And still I say BvS is a bad movie. If its protagonists were not random heroes instead of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, it'd be completely forgettable.


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ShinHakkaider wrote:
I just want good stuff, but to me BATMAN v SUPERMAN looked like hot garbage served up in the guise of a seven course meal on a 90 degree day. And I LIKED MAN OF STEEL. In fact I'm liking it more and more upon repeat viewings. So for me to be repulsed by BvS? Especially after what I was told by people who saw it in early screenings? Nah. I'll wait for cable. But I wont wish for it to FAIL. That's just dickbaggery.

I disagree here. I do wish bad movies fail and good movies succeed. Not because I resent the people who made the bad movie or wish them ill... But because this encourages Hollywood to make better movies in the future.

If any s@#*ty superhero movie is a success, then the producers have no reason to try and make a good movie. They'll just do whatever is cheapest.

That said, I still maintain that the only opinion that matters for your enjoyment is yours, so if you liked BvS (or any other bad movie) go see it.


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The problem is that Hollywood sometimes doesn't actually take the quality of a movie into account if it fails, they assume that it must mean there is no market for that type of movie.

In a perfect world, BvS failing would mean that Hollywood would redouble their efforts to make the next attempt greatly superior to that film.

In the world we live it, it's AT LEAST as likely that BvS failing would be interpreted as "the comic book movie bubble has burst1" About the only thing that will keep that from happening now is the fact that Marvel Studios touched the Crimson Gem of Cytorak several years back, and has turned into an unstoppable Juggernaut.

Sovereign Court

ShinHakkaider wrote:
I just want good stuff, but to me BATMAN v SUPERMAN looked like hot garbage served up in the guise of a seven course meal on a 90 degree day. And I LIKED MAN OF STEEL. In fact I'm liking it more and more upon repeat viewings. So for me to be repulsed by BvS? Especially after what I was told by people who saw it in early screenings?

I never put any stock in what people are saying. I check it out for myself. But i guess some people just don't want to spend the money needed for a movie ticket to see for themselves.

Lemmy wrote:
To me it's painfully obvious that the only reason people defend this movie is because it stars Batman and Superman, and also because DC fans really, really want to be able to say that DC made a movie as good as the Marvel ones... There's still this dumb competitive mentality on both sides.

Yes because nobody could have liked the movie on its own merit. That is impossible.


Hama wrote:
Yes because nobody could have liked the movie on its own merit. That is impossible.

"Nobody"? No... I wouldn't say "Nobody". But a small minority, yes. The movie is pretty bad. Not horrible... But still pretty bad.


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Hama wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:
I just want good stuff, but to me BATMAN v SUPERMAN looked like hot garbage served up in the guise of a seven course meal on a 90 degree day. And I LIKED MAN OF STEEL. In fact I'm liking it more and more upon repeat viewings. So for me to be repulsed by BvS? Especially after what I was told by people who saw it in early screenings?

I never put any stock in what people are saying. I check it out for myself. But i guess some people just don't want to spend the money needed for a movie ticket to see for themselves.

I put stock in the words of friends that I trust and have similar tastes. Yes. Not to mention that the trailers did NOTHING to make me want to see the movie to begin with.

As as for your comment about not wanting to spend the money needed for a movie ticket to see for myself? Three things:

I live in NY where a ticket in a decent theater ranges from $14.50 to $22

I go to the movies with my family or at least my 14 year old fairly regularly which means I spend for a family of 3 anywhere from $45 dollars to upwards of over $60.

Three: The week of release I got invited to TWO screenings of Batman v Superman here in the city. One screening conflicted with a existing responsibility. The other I could have went to but I just had no interest in possibly wasting 2 and a 1/2 hours on a movie that didn't excite me AT ALL. I would have been standing in line to get INTO the screening for at least 2 hours and it just wasn't worth it to me.

And yes I might have gone opening weekend if word of mouth from people I trust said that it was worth it and a good movie. Even my friend Rich, who is a HUGE DC fan came away kind of lukewarm. He enjoyed and cited it's flaws and it's strengths. It's just that the flaws (casual killer Batman, Lex Luthor, Martha and Cave Troll Doomsday) were enough to make me keep my money in my pocket and wait to catch it on cable.

So yes, FYI, for movies that I WANT to see and that I'm EXITED about? I'll take the time and or spend the money. If I get invited to a screening for CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR you can bet that i'll drop whatever I'm doing (if I can) to go.

Nice try though.

Sovereign Court

Lemmy wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yes because nobody could have liked the movie on its own merit. That is impossible.
"Nobody"? No... I wouldn't say "Nobody". But a small minority, yes. The movie is pretty bad. Not horrible... But still pretty bad.

A small minority? People who hate the movie are in a minority, they are the loudest, yes, and the most vehement, but most certainly not in the majority.


Hama wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yes because nobody could have liked the movie on its own merit. That is impossible.
"Nobody"? No... I wouldn't say "Nobody". But a small minority, yes. The movie is pretty bad. Not horrible... But still pretty bad.
A small minority? People who hate the movie are in a minority, they are the loudest, yes, and the most vehement, but most certainly not in the majority.

Not sure about that... But it's not my point, in any case.

I'd say the majority of people who liked the movie pretty much forced themselves to like it because it's Batman and Superman and because they want DC movies to be good. BvS could be even worse and they'd be defending it just as passionately.

Liberty's Edge

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Hama wrote:

...nobody could have liked the movie on its own merit. That is impossible.

I did.


Norman Osborne wrote:

The problem is that Hollywood sometimes doesn't actually take the quality of a movie into account if it fails, they assume that it must mean there is no market for that type of movie.

In a perfect world, BvS failing would mean that Hollywood would redouble their efforts to make the next attempt greatly superior to that film.

In the world we live it, it's AT LEAST as likely that BvS failing would be interpreted as "the comic book movie bubble has burst1" About the only thing that will keep that from happening now is the fact that Marvel Studios touched the Crimson Gem of Cytorak several years back, and has turned into an unstoppable Juggernaut.

This. A million times.

Liberty's Edge

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Hama wrote:
Lemmy wrote:
Hama wrote:
Yes because nobody could have liked the movie on its own merit. That is impossible.
"Nobody"? No... I wouldn't say "Nobody". But a small minority, yes. The movie is pretty bad. Not horrible... But still pretty bad.
A small minority? People who hate the movie are in a minority, they are the loudest, yes, and the most vehement, but most certainly not in the majority.

The box office numbers say otherwise.

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