What does True Seeing "look like"?

[slade867]

Suppose someone with True Seeing saw and invisible person or a polymorphed person. Would they know everyone else sees that person differently? Or would they only perceive the truth and fail to notice the illusion?

[wraithstrike]

I would say they notice the illusion, but it would be transparent or translucent.

[VRMH]

I disagree.

The subject of True Seeing "sees invisible creatures or objects normally". There is no mention in the spell's description about seeing magical auras or seeing illusionary or transmutational effects. On the contrary: they very specifically do not see them.

[boring7]

VRMH wrote:

I disagree.

The subject of True Seeing "sees invisible creatures or objects normally". There is no mention in the spell's description about seeing magical auras or seeing illusionary or transmutational effects. On the contrary: they very specifically do not see them.

This is problematic when the too-large-for-a-door polymorphed dragon walks in through the door. Or when the Giant Dwarf (oxymoronlol) reaches the top shelf for his liquor.

This topic comes up from time to time, the general consensus is that there will be table variance from DM to DM both because either one creates "wait, WHAT?" moments and because at 250 gold and a 7th level spell slot it's kind of a big deal to cast.

Also, it's not only difficult but annoying to have everyone around the table see different things, know EXACTLY what's actually going on, but have to pretend they don't because "oh gosh you'd have no way of knowing that the horrible type 5 demon is invisible for at least 1 full round and the rest of the party has no way of knowing he's there." I mean I know that sometimes that's an intentional part of the game, but those times are rare.

But all that really matters is consistency in-campaign.

[glass]

VRMH wrote:

I disagree.

The subject of True Seeing "sees invisible creatures or objects normally". There is no mention in the spell's description about seeing magical auras or seeing illusionary or transmutational effects. On the contrary: they very specifically do not see them.

They also "see all things as they actually are". Somehow missing that that dragon you can see polymorphed into a dwarf is hardly doing that.

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glass.

[rainzax]

I would run this like wraithstrike said. They see both Kent and Superman.