Interesting Read: "Open World PVP and the Psychology of a Carebear"


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Open World PvP and the Psychology of a Carebear

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*looks at title*

Yup, no way THIS is going to be slanted. (I will read it later, when I can catch more than a spare moment).


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Yup, no way THIS is going to be slanted. (I will read it later, when I can catch more than a spare moment).

Wow, are you always so cynical?

It's written from the view point of somebody who doesn't like PvP.

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Kadere wrote:

*looks at title*

Yup, no way THIS is going to be slanted. (I will read it later, when I can catch more than a spare moment).

It's by a non-PvPer. This bit pretty much sums up my approach - to life as well as gaming:

I game by a “Do Unto Others” sort of mentality. I try not to treat folks in a way I wouldn’t want to be treated myself. I don’t want to be ganked while trying to achieve my PvE goals, so I’m not going to do that to someone else. That’s just how I roll.

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I hope to be relatively successful as a merchant/gatherer by minimizing my PvP losses through stealth, guile, diplomacy, and swift vengeance.

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That is not as assumption I would have made from the title - and as stated, I haven't clicked the link yet. Call it cynical if you like, but as an EVE vet my default assumption is that most things using the term 'carebear' are going to be negative.

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Kadere wrote:
That is not as assumption I would have made from the title - and as stated, I haven't clicked the link yet. Call it cynical if you like, but as an EVE vet my default assumption is that most things using the term 'carebear' are going to be negative.

To be fair..."Carebear" is usual a derogatory term used by PvPers. So I don't think your assumptions are unfounded. I could see the article going either way before reading it.

The article does not touch much on my main reason to be a "carebear." Is that in many open world PvP games the PvP was pointless and/or just annoying.

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The biggest difference between the two groups are the actual goals.

One group wants fun/excitement/adrenaline and games because either they lack excitement in real life or are adrenaline junkies and always need more.

The other group wants to mellow out chat and relax and build stuff up to get a sense of achievement, often becasue they are stressed and hassled in RL and need to wind down.

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Neat article. If you read it, be sure to read the comments, too, because the author develops her ideas further there. I'll come back with more after I finish reading the comments.

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Kadere wrote:
That is not as assumption I would have made from the title - and as stated, I haven't clicked the link yet. Call it cynical if you like, but as an EVE vet my default assumption is that most things using the term 'carebear' are going to be negative.

im curious do you have a lot of killmails?

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Neadenil Edam wrote:

The biggest difference between the two groups are the actual goals.

One group wants fun/excitement/adrenaline and games because either they lack excitement in real life or are adrenaline junkies and always need more.

The other group wants to mellow out chat and relax and build stuff up to get a sense of achievement, often becasue they are stressed and hassled in RL and need to wind down.

Then there's people like me, the true achiever, the born leaders. We love PVE because there are challenges to overcome and failure doesn't diminish our drive, it motivates us. Every new boss is a puzzle to be figured out and our repertoire of tactics has grown over the years through playing countless MMOs. Success has become a career for us and we're quite good at our jobs. We love PVP for the same reason, that challenge, that puzzle, that ability to surpass the obstacles standing in our path and prove ourselves before all. Leaderboards are our shrines where we pray to the god of skill, that he might bless us with his favor. Ranking number 2 isn't good enough and we are constantly coming up with the strongest builds and tactics to massacre with.

Our primary goal: Glory, Fame, Absolute Reverence. All shall know name. Enemies shall fear it. Allies shall praise it. Even developers shall honor it. Like unto the gods themselves we cast our shadows over all, whether for benevolent protection or malicious tyranny.

Oh but we're actually really nice and helpful guys!

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Pyronous Rath wrote:
Kadere wrote:
That is not as assumption I would have made from the title - and as stated, I haven't clicked the link yet. Call it cynical if you like, but as an EVE vet my default assumption is that most things using the term 'carebear' are going to be negative.
im curious do you have a lot of killmails?

1800 lifetime kills, which is not as high as it could be but my timezone means that I have always had to deal with slim pickings.

I have since read the article - it was interesting, yeah. I would say that very often my thought processes are similar. My desire for PvP has been learned, it doesn't come naturally.

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