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The gaming community I'm involved in love the APs, but have yet to actually finish one. Due to the vagaries of life and the often-flaky nature of gamers, our campaigns tend to flame out before the PCs hit 10th level.
So, if you were using the modules or cannibalizing the AP adventures, which ones would you use to create a mini AP? They could be united by theme or location, but must cap out around 8th level (more or less) but must be easy to unite into one overall story.
What do you think?
Barbarossa - that's kind of what the revised module line is meant to provide.
Plunder and Peril is 4-7
Tears at Bitter Manor is 5-8
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Existing Module Series
Goblin Series
1 We Be Goblins!
2 ???
3 We Be Goblins Too!
Kobold King Series
1 Hollow's Last Hope
2-4 Crown of the Kobold King
5 Revenge of the Kobold King
6-8 Hungry are the Dead
Price of Immortality Series
1-2 Crypt of the Everflame
3-4 Masks of the Living God
5-6 City of Golden Death
Last Baron Series
1-2 ???
3-4 ???
5-6 Tower of the Last Baron
7-8 Treasure of Chimera Cove
Thornkeep Series
1-8 Pathfinder Online: Thornkeep (contains 5 dungeons that can be strung together)
The Dragon's Demand
1-7 The Dragon's Demand (complete mini-AP in one book)
The Emerald Spire
1-13 The Emerald Spire (one book super dungeon)
…………………...……………………..
Pieced together series. You'd have to do a little work to tie them together storyline wise.
Evil Fey Adventure Series (Andoran)
1-2 Into the Haunted Forest
3-4 ???
5-6 Carnival of Tears
7-8 Realm of the Fellnight Queen
Osirion Adventure Series (Osirion)
1-2 ???
3 Risen From the Sands
4-5 ???
6-7 Entombed With the Pharaohs
8-9 The Pact Stone Pyramid
Creepy Adventure Series (Nidal/Western Cheliax)
1-3 ???
4-5 The Midnight Mirror
6-7 From Sea to Shore
8-10 No Response from Deepmar
Miscellaneous/Totally Random Varisian Adventures Series (Varisia)
1-2 The Godmouth Heresy OR Murder's Mark
3-4 Feast of Ravenmoor
5 ???
6 Dawn of the Scarlet Sun (designed as a level 5 module for 6 players)
7-8 Seven Swords of Sin
9 ???
10-11 Clash of the Kingslayers
12 ???
13-14 Academy of Secrets
PS. Also,
Nirmathas Adventure Series (Nirmathas borders with Molthune and Varisia)
1-3 ???
4-5 Fangwood Keep
6-7 Conquest of Bloodsworn Vale
PPS. "No Response from Deepmar" should have a 8-9 in front of it rather then a 8-10.
PPPS. The "Varisia Series" could, and probably should, end with "Seven Swords of Sin".
My mode of playing is PBEM and we average one AP book in approx. one year so I had the same concerns with regards to campaign length.
There are a few APs that can be shortened and still provide 'closure'
There is a thread about that here: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ozkg?Which-APs-need-NOT-be-completed-and-still .
The thread is old so it doesn't have the newer APs but it should help.
L8r,
Fabian
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Great thread!
Dragons of Taldor, Dark Fey, Dark Tapestry… and Scarred Lands series
1-7 The Dragon's Demand
7-8 Realm of the Fellnight Queen
9-10 Doom Comes to Dustpawn
11-12 - Guardians of Dragonfall (not sure I can salvage or fit this one in logically yet… I think this should have been a much higher level adventure, and may need to modify it to make it so)
13 ???
14-15 Tomb of the Iron Medusa (set in Taldor… but not sure how well I can make it fit)
15-16 Blood of Dragonscar
16-17 The Moonscar
Beyond having a dragon as a main villain, the Dark Tapestry and the Dominion of the Dark are also central themes of The Dragon's Demand. Among the wizard Hunclay's notes in his observatory, I have included references to some unfamiliar object that he has been tracking across the night sky, and which the wizard estimated would impact Golarion near Dustpawn in Isger in a few months time (he had been making plans to travel there to witness the impact)… a hook planted for Doom Comes to Dustpawn. I have also added bidders from nearby Bellis in Andoran in the auction section of the Dragon's Demand, who are there also to discuss a potential union and political alliance with Lady Devy might befriend the PCs… one of the Andorens hopefully will befriend the PCs, and this person will in turn invite the PCs to his wedding in Bellis once the PCs save Belhaim and its out-of-town guests from the dragon… which is a hook for the Realm of the Fellnight Queen, which is set in and around Bellis, which also happens to be on the most direct route to Dusptawn.
I haven't thought very much on how to connect the various other modules yet, save for Blood of Dragonscar. Since the PCs will have become notable slayers of evil dragons if they survive The Dragon's Demand (we're in the middle of playing this one right now), I might include other dragon-related adventures to fill level gaps. I also don't want to railroad the PCs into each adventure -- other options may present themselves as we play through our campaign. If we ever make it to level 20 (doubtful, given how infrequently we get to play), I might consider making the 3.0 adventure, Bastion of Broken Souls -- which features the dragon Ashardalon -- as the grande finale. Either way, the stuff that comes after Doom Comes to Dustpawn would probably require additional tweaking to make them a logical and PC level-appropriate fit.
I hope this provides some useful ideas…
You might be able work The Harrowing in as the level 9 adventure in your totally random Varisian adventure series.
Dotting this thread for reference.
My mode of playing is PBEM and we average one AP book in approx. one year so I had the same concerns with regards to campaign length.
There are a few APs that can be shortened and still provide 'closure'
There is a thread about that here.
The thread is old so it doesn't have the newer APs but it should help.
L8r,
Fabian
Linkified that for you.
Pathfinder RPG adventures are broken down by level here, if you're looking to piece together a short campaign.
Thanks everyone! I appreciate the thought you put into this and it helps immensely. The thread about shortening some of the APs had some great ideas as well.
Note that Tower of the Last Baron, Treasure of Chimera Cove, and Carnival of Tears all take place in or near Andoran, so if you're willing to juggle some levels, they could potentially be used with the "Kobold King" series. (Carnival of Tears takes place in Darkmoon Vale/Falcon's Hollow, so it seems like a natural to go with the various Vale modules.)
Great thread!
Dragons of Taldor, Dark Fey, Dark Tapestry… and Scarred Lands series
1-7 The Dragon's Demand
7-8 Realm of the Fellnight Queen
9-10 Doom Comes to Dustpawn
11-12 - Guardians of Dragonfall (not sure I can salvage or fit this one in logically yet… I think this should have been a much higher level adventure, and may need to modify it to make it so)
13 ???
14-15 Tomb of the Iron Medusa (set in Taldor… but not sure how well I can make it fit)
15-16 Blood of Dragonscar
16-17 The Moonscar** spoiler omitted **...
With regards to the OP, if you're looking for a shorter mini-campaign, I think the story begun in The Dragon's Demand could have a satisfying conclusion by the time you finish Doom Comes to Dustpawn (that is, if you wanted to take the story beyond The Dragon's Demand)… the nice thing about shorter non-AP modules is, it's largely up to the DM to decide if/when they will lay down hooks for future modules, and when the campaign should end (ideally with a satisfying conclusion). And they can easily revise the latter decision too, if their group wants to go on story by story without a longterm campaign commitment, by always being in a position to work in, as time permits, "that one last adventure/module."