C-3PO says SW:VII will be better than "The Empire Strikes Back"


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I just saw the trailer. It's awesome. So, awesome that I'm quite exquisitely and deliciously excited.

But...I recall The Phantom Menace had a great teaser, too.

I really, really, really want this movie to be good.

I'm so worried...me and my First World Problems.


Cool!

very JJ Abrams-ish.

As dumb as the "bowling droid" looks, I find it fits well in the SW universe. I have more issues with the light-longsword...

That pod jet-bike thingy, the atmospheric combat and the ship scrapyard in the background are inspiring!

[edit] oooh, Hans replaced that round antenna (or had Lando replace it, more likely).

Liberty's Edge

yellowdingo wrote:


Why did the stormtrooper wake in the desert?

Spoiler:
I heard He is not a stormtrooper, but a TIE pilot that crashed.

I'll repost what I posted in the trailer thread.

Hmm, I don't know.

Maybe it's just me...but it feels completely like one of those fan films for the first half of the trailer.

The second half with the millennium falcon is pretty cool looking, but it does look like JJ had to put in some light flare effects with the sun in your eyes type thing...

Not sure how I feel about the trailer. Right now it really feels just like a glorified fan film to me.

Maybe I was just expecting more out of the trailer.

As for Phantom Menace, it had a better teaser by far. Of course, as that showed, teasers and trailers are no indication on how good or bad a movie is.


The movie is a year away. I'm not going to overly speculate on a teaser trailer. Also, JJ needs to talk to this guy, who fixed the flaws in that lightsaber's crossguards.


After the double bladed lightsaber, the claymore doesn't really seem bad.

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Davor wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:

I hate the lightsabre and the droid

Why did the stormtrooper wake in the desert? Because the others thought he was too short to be a stormtrooper.

The ball droid does look REALLY dumb.

Can you, with a straight face, say it looks dumber than droids from previous star wars movies?

What it does is fit in with the existing aesthetic. Which is good.

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Lord Snow wrote:
Davor wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:

I hate the lightsabre and the droid

Why did the stormtrooper wake in the desert? Because the others thought he was too short to be a stormtrooper.

The ball droid does look REALLY dumb.

Can you, with a straight face, say it looks dumber than droids from previous star wars movies?

What it does is fit in with the existing aesthetic. Which is good.

Yes. Yes I can.

"The dumb ball droid looks dumber than droids from previous Star Wars movies."

Huh. That wasn't so bad.


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Davor wrote:
"The dumb ball droid looks dumber than droids from previous Star Wars movies."

Are you sure?

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MMCJawa wrote:
Add in that I think J.J. is horribly overrated, and that Disney will apparently be cranking out Star Wars movies at a steady pace until the heat death of the universe, just makes me very guarded in my enthusiasm for the new stories.

I was worried about the schedule myself...and then I saw a webcomic that pointed out that that's exactly the schedule they've been using for the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies. And those have been quite good thus far, at least for the most part.

So I'm cautiously optimistic. :)

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Davor wrote:
Lord Snow wrote:
Davor wrote:
The ball droid does look REALLY dumb.

Can you, with a straight face, say it looks dumber than droids from previous star wars movies?

What it does is fit in with the existing aesthetic. Which is good.

Yes. Yes I can.

"The dumb ball droid looks dumber than droids from previous Star Wars movies."

Huh. That wasn't so bad.

Nope, I like it. It seems much more sensible for use in an outdoor environment filled with non-perfectly smooth terrain.

Power droids? Dumb.
CZ-3 droids? Dumb.
Astromech droids with tiny wheels scooting along through loose sand terrain? Dumb.
"Extra-cranky" (a**hole) astromech droids? Dumb.
"Wacky" pit droids? Dumb.
Lens-flare camera droid? Overrated.

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Great write up about the trailer on Forbes.

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Deadmanwalking wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:
Add in that I think J.J. is horribly overrated, and that Disney will apparently be cranking out Star Wars movies at a steady pace until the heat death of the universe, just makes me very guarded in my enthusiasm for the new stories.

I was worried about the schedule myself...and then I saw a webcomic that pointed out that that's exactly the schedule they've been using for the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies. And those have been quite good thus far, at least for the most part.

So I'm cautiously optimistic. :)

Even with a LOT of talent and very smart management decisions for the MCU, it still has it's ups and downs. With Star Wars I see very little of the wisdom Marvel has shown with it's management of their long term, steady output series. There is much more reason to be concerned than to be optimistic.


I liked clone wars TV series and think rebels is okay. At the end of the day, see the movie or don't. I'll be seeing this movie. Doesn't matter to me if it's a turkey, it just has to be better than episode one.

Sovereign Court

That is not too difficult to do.


When all else fails, lower the bar.

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Shadowborn wrote:

When all else fails, lower the bar.

That's barbaric.


Lucas already lowered it pretty far, we are just accepting where he left it.


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The teaser was good, not great.
Not enough lens-flares.
And I felt it had too few Gungans... it needed a whole planet of dead ones I think. That would've been great.


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Endor was sent out of orbit by the explosion of the second death star. Some years later, during which all the ewoks died horrible frozen suffocation deaths, it crashes like a messenger of doom into Naboo's oceans during a grand celebration where all existing gungans in existence are present. The seas are posioned by the toxic radiation of a death star's worth of reactors, killing all gungans by radioactive slime...

Sovereign Court

Now I'd pay to watch that over and over and over again


Sissyl wrote:
Endor was sent out of orbit by the explosion of the second death star. Some years later, during which all the ewoks died horrible frozen suffocation deaths, it crashes like a messenger of doom into Naboo's oceans during a grand celebration where all existing gungans in existence are present. The seas are posioned by the toxic radiation of a death star's worth of reactors, killing all gungans by radioactive slime...

I'd totally pay to see that!

matinee prices anyway


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So everyone's seen the George Lucas Special Edition SW:EpVII Trailer?

No?

Here

I fell out of my chair at the new reveal for the Sith lightsaber.


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Even with a LOT of talent and very smart management decisions for the MCU, it still has it's ups and downs. With Star Wars I see very little of the wisdom Marvel has shown with it's management of their long term, steady output series. There is much more reason to be concerned than to be optimistic.

I disagree. Hiring Abrams to re-launch the franchise but just with one film and with Lawrence Kasdan and Michael Arndt actually writing was a canny move. Getting Rian Johnson to do Episode VIII was even cannier and hiring Gareth Edwards and Josh Trank to do the stand-alones was smarter still. They're getting fresh, up-and-coming directors with a lot of creativity to do different takes on the franchise. Even if they fail, the intentions were pretty good.

There's also the prospect of some of the MCU directors coming over to do a STAR WARS movie. Joss Whedon or James Gunn directing Episode IX is something I know a lot of people would get excited about.


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Sissyl wrote:
Endor was sent out of orbit by the explosion of the second death star. Some years later, during which all the ewoks died horrible frozen suffocation deaths, it crashes like a messenger of doom into Naboo's oceans during a grand celebration where all existing gungans in existence are present. The seas are posioned by the toxic radiation of a death star's worth of reactors, killing all gungans by radioactive slime...

Nonsense. The ewoks are just fine.

Yub-yub mofos!


Werthead wrote:

Joss Whedon or James Gunn directing Episode IX is something I know a lot of people would get excited about.

whedon needs to stay far, far away from this.

I would rather see another Firefly movie than a star wars movie with whedons name on it.

Hell, another two. Let him make his own trilogy. This one's taken.


Quark Blast wrote:

So everyone's seen the George Lucas Special Edition SW:EpVII Trailer?

No?

Here

I fell out of my chair at the new reveal for the Sith lightsaber.

loooooooooooooool

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Freehold DM wrote:
Werthead wrote:

Joss Whedon or James Gunn directing Episode IX is something I know a lot of people would get excited about.

whedon needs to stay far, far away from this.

I would rather see another Firefly movie than a star wars movie with whedons name on it.

Hell, another two. Let him make his own trilogy. This one's taken.

Deal!

Only thing better would be if they scrapped the plans to make more Star Bores movies altogether.


Freehold DM wrote:
Werthead wrote:

Joss Whedon or James Gunn directing Episode IX is something I know a lot of people would get excited about.

whedon needs to stay far, far away from this.

I would rather see another Firefly movie than a star wars movie with whedons name on it.

Hell, another two. Let him make his own trilogy. This one's taken.

What's the difference?

We used to play that D6 star wars game and had a crew of smugglers with their own ship that was actually pretty close to the new Star Wars Rebels crew.... and honestly when Firefly came out, 5 of 8 characters I would have sworn were ripped directly from our game ;)

So for me, Firefly and Star wars goes together PRETTY well thematically.


phantom1592 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Werthead wrote:

Joss Whedon or James Gunn directing Episode IX is something I know a lot of people would get excited about.

whedon needs to stay far, far away from this.

I would rather see another Firefly movie than a star wars movie with whedons name on it.

Hell, another two. Let him make his own trilogy. This one's taken.

What's the difference?

We used to play that D6 star wars game and had a crew of smugglers with their own ship that was actually pretty close to the new Star Wars Rebels crew.... and honestly when Firefly came out, 5 of 8 characters I would have sworn were ripped directly from our game ;)

So for me, Firefly and Star wars goes together PRETTY well thematically.

More like whedon doesn't have an original thought in his head....


It's all in the execution. Star Wars wasn't original either, just very well done.

Something isn't bad just because Whedon is involved, nor is it automatically awesome.

Sovereign Court

I wonder what would happen if Freehold met Whedon :D


Booooooom!!!


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Hama wrote:
I wonder what would happen if Freehold met Whedon :D

And didn't recognize him? And really hit it off? Only to discover who it was after?


Bill Dunn wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

*sigh*

I understand the importance of not getting one's hopes up especially in light of the last trilogy, but YEESH..tough crowd.

Well, the lower your expectations, the more likely they will be exceeded. The higher they are, the more likely you are to be disappointed.

This.

My expectations are very low for this movie (and I'm going to scoff at almost all forms of hype for it).

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Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun wrote:

After a great long while we have CANON once again.

And just like that, I am 7 years old again.

Some cool things to note in The Force Awakens trailer.

In the speeder sequence featuring actress Daisy Ridley [Kira], a closeup shot of her at the controls includes what looks like a weapon, with a lightsaber-style handle, strapped to the side.

"Is Daisy Ridley's [Kira] character Princess Leia and Han Solo's daughter?"

Difficult to say, though there is a clear similarity between the shot used in the trailer, in which Ridley's character mounts a speeder bike, and the sequence in Return of the Jedi in which Princess Leia does the same. The style of Ridley's clothing is even reminiscent, which cannot be coincidence.

"Is the desert planet Tattooine?"

That seems almost certain, there are few planets more Iconic to Star Wars than Tattooine. Further in the trailer we see in the distance what appears to be moisture vaporators, the principal tool of water farming, one of Tattooine's major industries, and what look to be burned-out pod engines, a mainstay of Tattooine's pod-racing industry.

"Who is the narrator of the trailer?" There are some camps saying it's Andy Serkis.

"Did that sound like an Imperial probe droid?"

Hmm. Possible.

"What are the symbols on the X-Wing pilot's cockpit harness?"

It's "Pull to inflate," in Aurebesh.

Is that a 'new' Millennium Falcon?

There is only one Millennium Falcon. Though there is a noticeable change to its exterior - the old circular sensor dish on the ship's roof is gone, replaced with a rectangular one, which suggests that there have been some improvements. (Small historical note: the original dish was damaged in Return of the Jedi.) The ship, a modified YT-1300 light freighter, appeared in the original trilogy films and was glimpsed in the prequel Revenge of the Sith.

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Is it me, or did the narrator sound like Benedict Cumberbatch?


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Highly doubt it will be better. If it's as good as #3, I'll be happy. Have no faith in JJ and I'm not impressed with the CGI compared to model starships (looks fake).

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Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun wrote:

"Who is the narrator of the trailer?"

There are some camps saying it's Andy Serkis.

Charles Scholz wrote:
Is it me, or did the narrator sound like Benedict Cumberbatch?

UPDATE

The voice over in the teaser is confirmed to be by Andy Serkis.

The lightsaber sound at the end of the trailer is revealed to be Anakin's/Luke's lightsaber from A New Hope.

Does that foreshadow anything?

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I would like dedicate this version of the trailer to Freehold and any other J.J. Abrams fans.


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I know this somewhat of a derail, but did anyone like Lucas' movie "Willow"? I really wanted to see more of that. Even joyed the books following.


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Hama wrote:
I wonder what would happen if Freehold met Whedon :D

{holds flashlight under chin} Long ago, as he was crossing the foggy moors of Central Park, Freehold was viscously mauled by a large hairy Whedwolf. Now on nights of the full moon, he undergoes his own frightful change, but remembers nothing of his nightly escapades.

"Even a man who is pure in heart
And watches his anime by night,
May become a Whedwolf with dialogue too snappy
Under the autumn moon so bright."


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Rogar Stonebow wrote:
I know this somewhat of a derail, but did anyone like Lucas' movie "Willow"? I really wanted to see more of that. Even joyed the books following.

I quote DeathQuaker in this thread.

DeathQuaker wrote:

Hell yes.

And Fin Raziel vs. Bavmorda makes the fight between Gandalf and Sauron look like a tea party.

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Rogar Stonebow wrote:
I know this somewhat of a derail, but did anyone like Lucas' movie "Willow"? I really wanted to see more of that. Even joyed the books following.

We need to give this thread more time!

Focus ALL firepower on Roger Stonebow!

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DeathQuaker wrote:

Hell yes.

And Fin Raziel vs. Bavmorda makes the fight between Gandalf and Sauron look like a tea party.

He means the fight between Gandalf and Saruman, unless he was referring to the actual War of the Ring, in which case, in a manner of speaking, was Gandalf marshaling forces to face Sauron.

True, from a certain point of view.


Yeah, she wrote later in the thread that she meant Saruman.


Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun wrote:
Rogar Stonebow wrote:
I know this somewhat of a derail, but did anyone like Lucas' movie "Willow"? I really wanted to see more of that. Even joyed the books following.

We need to give this thread more time!

Focus ALL firepower on Roger Stonebow!

I guess its a good thing I got this new lightsaber with a hilt......

Woops there went the tips of my toes


So, let me get this straight. We're talking about a sword made out of light, right? One that erupts from a handle and magically stops about 1 - 1.5 m from the exit point of the handle? (Last I checked light doesn't stop until it hits something.) And this light can cut through anything? Easier than a piece of tempered steel?

And we're worried about the hilt?

Shouldn't suspension of disbelief have kicked in a few movies ago?

[edit: missed a word...]


GregH wrote:

So, let me get this straight. We're talking about a sword made out of light, right? One that erupts from a handle and magically stops about 1 - 1.5 m from the exit point of the handle? (Last I checked light doesn't stop until it hits something.) And this light can cut through anything? Easier than a piece of tempered steel?

And we're worried about the hilt?

Shouldn't suspension of disbelief have kicked in a few movies ago?

[edit: missed a word...]

Oh thats not it, it has nothing to do with belief


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I love Willow, it's an awesome movie.

And yes, Mad Martigan IS the greatest swordsman alive!

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