I'm having Timat's Baby

[Lune]

K, found something at least.

Kerosine wrote:

If you roll a 1 on your attack roll, you accidentally inhale or swallow some of the burning fuel; you take 1d6 points of fire damage and are nauseated for 1 round.

Being that normally Kerosine only does 1d3 damage, it shows that actually having it in your body does more. Doesn't mention the saves bit though.

I swear I had read something somewhere about swallowing acid though I can't find it. The party I remembered about alchemists was about a non-alchemist consuming the mutagen but that didn't do what I had thought. So, uh... meh... nevermind. ;)

[Attilles]

Time to buy a ring. Thanks Lune.

[Wow Such Doge]

Could get some scrolls of permanency and spell immunity.
Get immunity to dispell, mage's disjunction, etc.

[Attilles]

THEY MAKE THOSE!? (Shift all the way, I don't use cruise control, not even for cool.)

[Wow Such Doge]

Spell immunity(you'd need greater) is a spell. It isn't on the Permanency list, but that's also up to your GM.

[Rabbiteconomist]

Wow Such Doge wrote:

Could get some scrolls of permanency and spell immunity.

Get immunity to dispell, mage's disjunction, etc.

Is it possible RAW to become immune to dispel/disjunction? That would be a powerful exploit for anyone.

[Wow Such Doge]

Is it 4th level or below?
If an alchemist of 16th level takes eternal potion, he can make any potion permanent, so he can be immune to any level 4 spell or lower.

[boring7]

No.

From the PRD:

Quote:

The warded creature is immune to the effects of one specified spell for every four levels you have. The spells must be of 4th level or lower. The warded creature effectively has unbeatable spell resistance regarding the specified spell or spells. Naturally, that immunity doesn't protect a creature from spells for which spell resistance doesn't apply. Spell immunity protects against spells, spell-like effects of magic items, and innate spell-like abilities of creatures. It does not protect against supernatural or extraordinary abilities, such as breath weapons or gaze attacks.

Only a particular spell can be protected against, not a certain domain or school of spells or a group of spells that are similar in effect. A creature can have only one spell immunity or greater spell immunity spell in effect on it at a time.

Globe of Invulnerability *might* stop Dispel Magic, (until the globe itself is dispelled) but that spell is also immobile.

The best option I can think of that absolutely works, no custom work, is a cohort spellcaster who holds his/her action to counterspell the dispel/disjunction. A one-step custom is allowing the creation of a custom wondrous item that is designed to detect and counterspell those effects if they are cast withing range of the wearer like an anti-ballistic missile system.

I make no judgement on the game-balance of such an item.

[Lune]

The Ring of Counterspells works just peachy. The above quote is for Spell Immunity. The Ring of Counterspells does not use the same wording. You can only cover one spell per ring though. So you could take Dispel Magic and Greater Dispel, but not Disjunction.

My personal opinion is that DMs who frequently use disjunction are kinda jerks. That topic (along with Sunder, etc) has been beat to death on these boards though. Suffice it to say that it is a topic that due to the amount of disagreement on both sides it may be safer to just avoid.

[boring7]

Well hell, I forgot that existed. That'll work, and with DMs permission you could scale it up via standard rules (see previous discussions of DM discretion). Counterspelling is also nice because it just works, no "make a dispel check" or "hope they don't beat your SR."

Important FAQ on the link; it only affects things that target you, if the enemy drops an area dispel (or, arguably, targets a specific effect instead of you personally) it will probably still happen. There are other mitigating factors, but let's shoot for brevity.

And yeah, Disjunction is a big deal.

[Lune]

I just stated it upthread. ;)

[blackbloodtroll]

I'm a mother lover, you're a mother lover, so....

[DinosaursOnIce]

I'm so happy this happened. Good luck staying in perma-dragon form. Tell your child hello for me next time you see it (oh and congratulations).

[Attilles]

Important story note: between the birth and this battle Diriaz and Attilles managed to acquire the Red Dragon Orb, Diriaz carried that orb in this fight.

Tiamat decided to lead an assault on Stone Hill; as her ground forces attacked we took to wing overhead, it wasn’t long before Bahamut and his team of do gooding jerks arrived to spoil our fun.
The battle array was: (class/race) [flying mount]
Tiamat, Attilles (sorcerer of ill repute), Diriaz (h/e assassin)[ancient red dragon], Dethklaw (A Bardbardian) [ancient void dragon], Tigard (high cleric of Tiamat) [adult red dragon], and Grimtower (human wizard/Attilles cohort) [adult void dragon]
vs
Bahamut, St. Avon (paladin and saint of Bahamut)[no mount], Zebulon (some kind of arcanist and self-proclaimed god of magic) [adult silver dragon], Alistair (Minotaur monk) [ancient gold dragon], Allela (elf ranger) [Francis Clamponetti, flying giant scorpion], Anatanaz (Zebulon’s cohort) [Void Prince Dalimar (Void Dragon)]
The fighting was mounted aerial warfare with three major rule exceptions:

1) Ride checks were not required (magic saddles)
2) Everyone in the fight is immune to frightful presence.
3) Tiamat and Bahamut were immune to breath weapons.

Combat opened with a charge by Bahamut and a Holy Word spell that hit Tigard, Tiamat and Grimtower. Tiamat was paralyzed and deafened, Tigard was deafened and Grimtower was blinded, deafened and paralyzed, he was done for the fight.
At the same time (same initiative count) St Avon charged over and began fighting with Diriaz, smiting him pretty good, Diriaz and Attilles turned their focus on St. Avon and managed to get him to near death, but Bahamut healed him without delay or issue.
Tigard managed to heal Tiamat before she fell too far and so Tiamat recovered and charged at Bahamut to make him pay for that holy word…With a sting attack. That failed.
Tiamat used sting attack! It’s not very effective…

Alistair the large minotaur monk flies over to Tiamat and proceeds to jump off his dragon (probably does a midair summersault or some other badass) and then slams Tiamat to the ground from 2000 feet up, instantly. Into Bahamut’s ground army by the way. (He used Aerial Assault a mythic ability)

Bahamut starts diving chasing after Tiamat, whilst Anatanaz and Void Prince Dalimar charge forward to enter the fray.
The red dragon Diriaz was riding and Attilles use the Void Dragon Orb to dominate Void Prince Dalimar commanding him to attack and kill St. Avon at all costs. Alistair’s ancient gold dragon managed to grapple and hold Dalimar for the remainder of the duration of the fight.

Just about everyone who can shoots and kills Diriaz, who gets resurrected, shot again, dies again and resurrects again, just about every turn (he died 5 times in this one fight).

Alistair and Tiamat are now fighting in the middle of Bahamut’s ground army, Tiamat using her bite attacks to take Alistair down pretty quickly only to see Bahamut raise him back up immediately with his mythic power.

More punches and attacks come in against Tiamat until finally Bahamut lands next to her and Alella shoots from over 2,000 feet up and away and manages to hit Tiamat with one arrow. That arrow incapacitates Tiamat and the fight is all but lost.

In a last ditch effort to save his child Attilles uses all his mythic might to teleport to Tiamat’s body and teleport away with it back to the pool she was born in [see above posts], Bahamut once against displaying just how badass a dragon god’s aspect should be instantly manages to follow us to the pool and lands a coup de grace on my chromatic baby.

Tiamat’s aspect is torn into no less than 6 pieces (each head is severed from the core body) and this fight is over. Attilles in one last desperate act manages to plane shift out of the fight to hell itself.

The battle was an almost entirely unmitigated disaster, only the quick thinking of Attilles (run away) managed to prevent good from accomplishing every objective in the fight (recovery of two dragon orbs, slaying of two very strong evil problem children and killing Tiamat’s aspect).

All hope seemed lost until Attilles got this message from {redacted}
Attilles,
I am pleased [REDACTED] [REDACTED] you are [REDACTED] and that [REDACTED] was [REDACTED]. You are the most [REDACTED] person [REDACTED]. You tried to save [REDACTED], but she was slain in the [REDACTED] [REDACTED]. That tragedy [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] results. A new [REDACTED] was [REDACTED] today in the [REDACTED] it has been [REDACTED] [REDACTED] divine [REDACTED] that churned in the [REDACTED]. [REDACTED] has its own [REDACTED], not those of [REDACTED], but the different [REDACTED] are [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] in their [REDACTED]. The new [REDACTED] looks like our [REDACTED]! I see yet another [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] in the [REDACTED] now. Can I trust you to [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED]?"

So there you have it guys, I birthed and lost an aspect of Tiamat. There's more to the story (I hope), but not for a while.

Also I want to give major props to our GM he did an amazing job running the encounter and telling this story.

I may have disagreed with Tiamat's tactics (my exact words being: "I planned a million different battle scenarios, not one of them ever even remotely suggested the possibility of going toe to toe with their whole group. Add to that we did it on/in open ground/air, in broad daylight, and in a time and place of the enemies' choosing. Each of those was an advantage to the good-side's forces that no self respecting evil villain guy would ever give them. Look at how we did [other fight], silently at night, while she was in her pajamas we came and took her life, her dragon ball, and her treasure. Now that's a g~$ d~~ned evil battle plan. Notice how we gave nothing to the enemy there?"). But, I am a sore loser, always have been, always will be, and I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.

Side note for anyone considering aerial combat in their campaigns: make sure you have some method of keeping damn good track of altitudes for characters, altitude considerations ate up a lot of time during this encounter. Also PvP in Pathfinder is probably not a good idea, PCs are OP, and you can't sneak up on them one at a time and murder them on the privy like I wanted to.

[Attilles]

Oh and I lost perma dragon form in the first fight after I got it, so yeah it was more like a draconic vacation than permadragon. :\

[Lune]

I know that the message was supposed to mean something but from all of the "redacted" I do not understand any of it.

[Attilles]

I have to keep that part under wraps for now sorry National Security.

[chkflip]

Aka his PvP friends cheat/metagame. Which is probably why they won, too, but hey.

[Attilles]

No one said they cheat or metagame, but you don't grow old as an evil guy by taking chances you don't have to, ya know?

He who would like at ease should not tell all he knows or all he sees.

[Melvin the Mediocre]

Where are you and the baby registered? I hope it gets some nice stuff. Like your eyes.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/royal-baby-has-fathers-eyes,33216/