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No one said they cheat or metagame, but you don't grow old as an evil guy by taking chances you don't have to, ya know?

He who would like at ease should not tell all he knows or all he sees.


I have to keep that part under wraps for now sorry National Security.


Oh and I lost perma dragon form in the first fight after I got it, so yeah it was more like a draconic vacation than permadragon. :\


Important story note: between the birth and this battle Diriaz and Attilles managed to acquire the Red Dragon Orb, Diriaz carried that orb in this fight.

Tiamat decided to lead an assault on Stone Hill; as her ground forces attacked we took to wing overhead, it wasn’t long before Bahamut and his team of do gooding jerks arrived to spoil our fun.
The battle array was: (class/race) [flying mount]
Tiamat, Attilles (sorcerer of ill repute), Diriaz (h/e assassin)[ancient red dragon], Dethklaw (A Bardbardian) [ancient void dragon], Tigard (high cleric of Tiamat) [adult red dragon], and Grimtower (human wizard/Attilles cohort) [adult void dragon]
vs
Bahamut, St. Avon (paladin and saint of Bahamut)[no mount], Zebulon (some kind of arcanist and self-proclaimed god of magic) [adult silver dragon], Alistair (Minotaur monk) [ancient gold dragon], Allela (elf ranger) [Francis Clamponetti, flying giant scorpion], Anatanaz (Zebulon’s cohort) [Void Prince Dalimar (Void Dragon)]
The fighting was mounted aerial warfare with three major rule exceptions:

1) Ride checks were not required (magic saddles)
2) Everyone in the fight is immune to frightful presence.
3) Tiamat and Bahamut were immune to breath weapons.

Combat opened with a charge by Bahamut and a Holy Word spell that hit Tigard, Tiamat and Grimtower. Tiamat was paralyzed and deafened, Tigard was deafened and Grimtower was blinded, deafened and paralyzed, he was done for the fight.
At the same time (same initiative count) St Avon charged over and began fighting with Diriaz, smiting him pretty good, Diriaz and Attilles turned their focus on St. Avon and managed to get him to near death, but Bahamut healed him without delay or issue.
Tigard managed to heal Tiamat before she fell too far and so Tiamat recovered and charged at Bahamut to make him pay for that holy word…With a sting attack. That failed.
Tiamat used sting attack! It’s not very effective…

Alistair the large minotaur monk flies over to Tiamat and proceeds to jump off his dragon (probably does a midair summersault or some other badass) and then slams Tiamat to the ground from 2000 feet up, instantly. Into Bahamut’s ground army by the way. (He used Aerial Assault a mythic ability)

Bahamut starts diving chasing after Tiamat, whilst Anatanaz and Void Prince Dalimar charge forward to enter the fray.
The red dragon Diriaz was riding and Attilles use the Void Dragon Orb to dominate Void Prince Dalimar commanding him to attack and kill St. Avon at all costs. Alistair’s ancient gold dragon managed to grapple and hold Dalimar for the remainder of the duration of the fight.

Just about everyone who can shoots and kills Diriaz, who gets resurrected, shot again, dies again and resurrects again, just about every turn (he died 5 times in this one fight).

Alistair and Tiamat are now fighting in the middle of Bahamut’s ground army, Tiamat using her bite attacks to take Alistair down pretty quickly only to see Bahamut raise him back up immediately with his mythic power.

More punches and attacks come in against Tiamat until finally Bahamut lands next to her and Alella shoots from over 2,000 feet up and away and manages to hit Tiamat with one arrow. That arrow incapacitates Tiamat and the fight is all but lost.

In a last ditch effort to save his child Attilles uses all his mythic might to teleport to Tiamat’s body and teleport away with it back to the pool she was born in [see above posts], Bahamut once against displaying just how badass a dragon god’s aspect should be instantly manages to follow us to the pool and lands a coup de grace on my chromatic baby.

Tiamat’s aspect is torn into no less than 6 pieces (each head is severed from the core body) and this fight is over. Attilles in one last desperate act manages to plane shift out of the fight to hell itself.

The battle was an almost entirely unmitigated disaster, only the quick thinking of Attilles (run away) managed to prevent good from accomplishing every objective in the fight (recovery of two dragon orbs, slaying of two very strong evil problem children and killing Tiamat’s aspect).

All hope seemed lost until Attilles got this message from {redacted}
Attilles,
I am pleased [REDACTED] [REDACTED] you are [REDACTED] and that [REDACTED] was [REDACTED]. You are the most [REDACTED] person [REDACTED]. You tried to save [REDACTED], but she was slain in the [REDACTED] [REDACTED]. That tragedy [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] results. A new [REDACTED] was [REDACTED] today in the [REDACTED] it has been [REDACTED] [REDACTED] divine [REDACTED] that churned in the [REDACTED]. [REDACTED] has its own [REDACTED], not those of [REDACTED], but the different [REDACTED] are [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] in their [REDACTED]. The new [REDACTED] looks like our [REDACTED]! I see yet another [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] in the [REDACTED] now. Can I trust you to [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED]?"

So there you have it guys, I birthed and lost an aspect of Tiamat. There's more to the story (I hope), but not for a while.

Also I want to give major props to our GM he did an amazing job running the encounter and telling this story.

I may have disagreed with Tiamat's tactics (my exact words being: "I planned a million different battle scenarios, not one of them ever even remotely suggested the possibility of going toe to toe with their whole group. Add to that we did it on/in open ground/air, in broad daylight, and in a time and place of the enemies' choosing. Each of those was an advantage to the good-side's forces that no self respecting evil villain guy would ever give them. Look at how we did [other fight], silently at night, while she was in her pajamas we came and took her life, her dragon ball, and her treasure. Now that's a g%~ d!&ned evil battle plan. Notice how we gave nothing to the enemy there?"). But, I am a sore loser, always have been, always will be, and I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.

Side note for anyone considering aerial combat in their campaigns: make sure you have some method of keeping damn good track of altitudes for characters, altitude considerations ate up a lot of time during this encounter. Also PvP in Pathfinder is probably not a good idea, PCs are OP, and you can't sneak up on them one at a time and murder them on the privy like I wanted to.


THEY MAKE THOSE!? (Shift all the way, I don't use cruise control, not even for cool.)


Time to buy a ring. Thanks Lune.


JJ:
It was a very high save DC but the Orb of Void Dragonkind put me at +21/+16/+21 for my saves. Artifact for the win! (Also gives AC38 what?)

Lune:
Shut your damned mouth! <3 I had a hard enough time surviving with the save opportunities.

Williamoak:
It would take a very powerful cleric to un-permanency my Dragon Form and I got the hell away from anyone I knew to be that strong as soon as I could.

I'm currently in the middle of nowhere enjoying being a dragon and avoiding clerics and other spell casters like the damned plague.


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20 Gruumidor
It all started in the war room of my camp (awesome little wall of stone built fortress), Skrak one of my goblin followers was describing the city of Goma and the Great Temple of Gonda there.
Zebulon came into the war to tell me he had developed a new medical technique that would enable me to survive the birth of Tiamat (yay!!) he called it a Z-Section. The Z-section involves someone shrinking down to a small enough size and then using the shadow walk ability to enter the birthing cavity through the shadow plane. Once inside Zebulon would sever the umbilical cord and carry the Tiny Tiamat out of the birthing cavity through the shadow plane. Tiamat is born and I get to live sounds great right. Well just wait because it’s not, but we decided this was the best course of action to follow.
I led the party (Attilles, Diriaz (Assassin/brother), Cerda (cleric of Glitch based on Zelda), Ryn (Ranger with the dragonslayer archetype based on Link of Ocarina of Time fame), Zebulon (an Arcanist street performer (David Copperfield type magic shows)) and Edric Grimtower (my cohort) up to Goma and to the temple of Tiamat (greater teleport for the win). Outside the temple Zebulon, Cerda and Ryn (Cerda’s cohort based off the Hero of Time) had to disguise themselves since they weren’t followers of Tiamat, Cerda and Ryn ducked off into an alley and put together a couple of really, really bad disguises so I sent them back to “Try again, and don’t embarrass yourselves this time.” They did much better on the second disguise attempt and we went into the temple.
As we walked into the temple I spread my wings and took to the air (the ceiling was a couple feet high) and started spitting fire to let everyone know what was going on. The temple broke out in cheers and cries of “The chosen one has arrived” (easily the warmest welcome I’ve ever received in a church or temple). After several minutes of flying and fire breathing I landed and met the high preists of the Tiamatian Trinity we discussed the Z-section and began making preparations for the birth. Cerda wandered off at this point to further “help” prepare for the birthing process.
Cerda entered the birthing chamber, bluffed her way into being accepted as a higher priest brought in to assist and proceeded to make the single worst mistake of her life. She placed a symbol of sleep at the top of the stairs leading into the birthing pool. The birthing pool provided fast regeneration to Tiamat's followers, was about 20 feet in diameter and was supported by statues of different metallic dragons.

21 Gruumidor
Oh day of days today is the day we are going to do the Z-section! It’s going to be amazing. I’m going to survive and Tiamat’s going to be here, whoo. No. As soon as I step over the invisible symbol of sleep it activates and most of the goblins in the room were put to sleep, the high priests were furious and began divining the answers.
Zebulon undeterred began working on the Z-section and shadow walked into my birthing cavity.
Pontifex Magnus Tigard declared the divinations revealed “A metallic has appeared in the rainbow”. Zebulon by this point was already inside the birthing cavity and quickly severed the umbilical cord. I was getting ready to greet my Dark Queen when it happened…
Zebulon cast Phantasmal Killer, Tiamat got PISSED!
I started trying to teleport immediately but initiative being what it is, I didn’t get to teleport out of the way until after Zebulon got his s**% ruined by tiny Tiamat. Utterly ruined. All that’s left of that chump is his hand and when I find a way to forcibly resurrect him he will suffer a proper fate for interfering with my Queen’s plan, but that’s a story for another post.
As soon as I tele’d Cerda decided to try destroying Tiamat, but that failed too (Tiamat barely made the save. Cerda needed 120 damage to take Tiny Tiamat down, but TT only took 36 damage so she didn’t really care).
Cerda was absolutely f%~+ing ruined by Pontifex Magnus Tigard immediately following her ill-conceived plan to attempt to stop me from bringing forth this bundle of badass.
Seconds later Diriaz killed Cerda’s cohort (who was based off the hero of time, Link). Diriaz killed Ryn with the sword of Ashardalon so the hero of time aint coming back unless Ashardalon gets bored with soul of a chump who dared raise his hands against our Dark Queen.
The battle was over and the birth was completed…
Or so I thought, Tiamat had other plans though and jumped right back into my birthing cavity and reattached her umbilical cord with an ominous warning for me: “I’m hungry”. At this point I decided to stop having ideas around her and just let Tiamat do whatever Tiamat wanted to do. She decided I would not leave that birthing pool until after she did.

22 Gruumidor
Tiamat had been tiny up to this point, but she grew to small this day. Oh glorious day.

23-24 Gruumidor
More growth, more waiting in the pool. She grew to medium size and I had to stay in Form of The Dragon II. Normally I only have enough castings of the spell to maintain dragon form for ~70 minutes per day but three high priests of dragon gods have some sway in making dragon magic last longer…

25 - 28 Gruumidor
Continuous growth, Tiamat grew to large and then huge size while I stayed in the pool in dragon form (eventually switched to Form of the Dragon III and it ended up with permanency—high priest of Tiamat, Ashardalon and Ephemelon are really really good at dragon magic man). I began feeling that I would not survive the ordeal and begged Tiamat to let me go hunting just once as a “true” dragon. She declined my request and so I sat whining in the birthing pool for a few more days.

29 Gruumidor
Diriaz was growing restless and decided to go visit our homeland, I let him borrow my dragon ball (Orb of Void Dragonkind) so he wouldn’t get himself rofl-stomped. This was a poor choice, its bonus to my fort save was all that was keeping me from being really really sad. Diriaz was still holding the dragon ball when Tiamat thrashed about it hurt really bad (I could use the orb’s save once because of kin guardian trait), but I had to make 2 saves in a row, after the second save failed I began crying and screaming hysterically for the dragonball. Diriaz gave it back and I spent the rest of the day clutching it to my chest crying and wishing I had never asked for this. Me and my f%$$ing mouth…
Tiamat at this point was freaking huge (so I guess I’m a closer-to-gargantuan-than-large huge dragon).

30 Gruumidor
Finally oh day of days for real this time. The thrashing and raging about inside the birthing cavity was absolutely unbearable the last day (I had taken 6 negative levels of energy drain from Tiamat sucking away my life). I barely made one of the Fort saves (36 on a DC 35 what up) and managed to survive because I’m immune to fire damage (red dragon) and cold damage (void dragon orb) with 12 hp left. Yeah 12.
Tiamat burst forth, I’m not sure what she did as I collapsed into the pool until I was fully recovered (several hours later).
When I recovered from the physical wounds of the ordeal I left the pool, took to wing and went hunting.
As a huge red dragon. Yay.


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Ok I have the post all typed up and mostly ready to go I sent it to the GM and other players to make sure I was accurate and complete in the report I want to make sure you guys don't miss out on any of this story.

Once I have their notes/suggestions incorporated I will post the story here in all its glory.


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Its probably because he needed a new campaign boss, one of the party members (now deceased shouldn't have stepped up like that poor guy) turned the previous campaign boss into a brothel with the rod of wonder.

Also there's a war breaking out between Bahamut and Tiamat so Tiamat needed an aspect on the planet and I had an item that might let a medium creature give birth to a huge dragon, so that's probably why.

Also I'm typing up the post still (I've been busy since the game ended) and I'm taking my time so I do this right, I took copious notes and will have the post up sometime tonight.


For allies to help with other casting I have a blood brother (RL Bestie from the service) Ninja/Assassin with UMD +9, my cohort is a wizard but I am loathe to bring him with me, someone needs to stay in the camp and tend my men while I go gallivanting about the goblin capital like a fancy man.

There's a cleric of a Glitch (fate goddess) and a rather powerful and entertaining Magus in the party too, but I don't know how far I can trust them with this one.

There's also a ranger in the party I absolutely can not let in on this one, but he's distracted by a giant (colossal) scorpion (named Francis Clamponetti) he's trying to convince to be his pet.

Thoughts?


Well I'm a sorcerer I only counted spell I personally can cast in that list because at the end of the day when you're giving birth the child of an evil dragon goddess who can you really trust to aid you in such an endeavor?

But I am going to the grand temple of Tiamat I'm sure she told someone there how to handle this.


Imbicatus wrote:
Actually, Dahak may try to kill it. It is a dragon, and Dahak probably doesn't want any sibling rivalry.

Seeing as how Dahak actually means "jive-sucka" in ancient draconic I doubt he will dare step to me and mine. He doesn't have the scales.

FuelDrop wrote:
Have you considered seeing a cleric about this? It sounds like it could use the attention of a medical professional.

The only cleric I talked to told me that this birth means my own certain death (wuss); I did go see one of my followers who happens to be a physician he said it seems like a normal pregnancy except that I am a male so yeah.

boring7 wrote:
Only temporarily, 1st level demigods have potential. [...] Of course it's also possible your soul will be devoured/merged with the demigod baby, that's where the whole "I wanna play my own monster baby" and "I am faithful, my life for Tiamat" come in.

I intend to raise the child not play it, I still have world(s) to conquer, peoples to enslave and kingdoms to build (and topple); the child shall be my heir, not my character.

The next session will be on Sat or Sun this week, and should cover the birth (yay!), a little more world context for everyone:
My character is encamped near a large Goatfolk city who primarily worship Bahumat, we were hunting the orbs of dragonkind near there when I got preggers. To the far north in the capital of a goblin society is one of Tiamat's largest temples, one of my followers has been there and given me a good description so I will be teleporting there with greater teleport to get some assistance in this whole preggers thing (its a terrible thing to be pregnant and alone). These same goblins are at war with the goats and I think I'm going to ask them to help me sack that city for my baby shower (I'm also working on robbing their diamond guild for shady business practices this is a busy campaign).

But for the birth itself I now intend to be in a major Tiamatian temple and I have the following spells at my immediate disposal to aid in the birth: Reduce Person, Grease, Shrink Item, Form of the Dragon 2 and Greater Teleport.

Still looking for more ideas on how to do this though. Also I've registered at Path*Mart for the baby shower, please no gifts under $50. Thanks.


Ok I got some clarification from the GM, this is not an egg, it will be a live birth. As for playing as the the new demigod dragon becoming a demigod would be a downgrade for me. I'm that awesome.


Well at the current moment we're at my camp (its an awesome fortress of walls of stone and move earth) about half a days travel from a giant city full of Bahamut followers. I gotta play this very close to the vest.


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I (a lawful evil male half elf 14th level cross blooded arcane draconic sorcerer) proclaimed that, "I wanna hook up with Tiamat because Tiamat is the coolest of all dragons. I would have her babies."

My GM took this literally and so now I am carring Tiamat's baby, I have been warned by another goddess (Glitch she covers fate and prophecy and such. Zzzzzzzzzzz.) that the birth of this child will kill me (something about being an anatomical male and having no way for the baby to get out).

This goddess is neutral so there's really no reason not to trust her, but at the same time maybe she's just a little too neutral. As the wizened 25 Star General Zapp Branigan will like to say in about 1000 years, "With enemies you where they stand, but with neutrals? Who knows!?"

Anyway, how do I get this baby out of me with out dying in the process.

The only two things I can think of are a spell to change my gender and increase my size or this idea a mighty mage I know (Zebulon the Great and Powerful) of shrinking a small creature to fine size having them teleport in and teleport back out with the baby.

I really don't want to die, but this baby is going to be born, someone made a joke about aborting it and a glass broke in the room instantly. So yeah Tiamat's actually interested in this one. Help.


If you don't have it yet the spell dragon's breath is my favorite 4th level blaster, you get access to all the energy types and different shapes too.