I'll take free level one Wizard powers, yeah, though I dunno how my cat would feel about the whole familiar thing...or my wife, for that matter. I would probably want something obnoxious like a monkey or a badger. I can just imagine the dinner table conversations.
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I assume when you said race you meant like a real life race? and not one of the races in the game?
If my assumption is right I would become a hispanic women and I would a druid
If my assumption is not correct and I had to become a race in the game but then live in the real world, I would an a generic Aasimar and be a Sorcerer.
Honestly if you lived in the real world and were an 8th level anything you would be pretty insane powerful.
I wouldn't live in an AP, too much chance to die and that would suck
I could take the gender hit because I would get magic. I would go half elf or gnome I think and my class would be witch or oracle I like these ones. though my ideal for jumping into a campaign would be a gnome alchemist so I could drop the bomb on them. and the campaign I would want would be Skulls and Shackles. I love the beach and it is a sandbox with avoidable plot compared to the other paths I have looked into. would the party I get be my choice or luck of the draw?
level 1 sorcerer
level 3 become a dragon
level 8 who cares you're a dragon
Ok there are two parts to this, the second one is an addition to the first as I'm a little curious how many would take the risk for more power over a safer guaranteed lesser level.
Part A
So the premise here is some god with too much time on their hands decides to introduce magic to the real world and you are one of the random 1% of the population selected. The rules are as follows . . .1) The class you pick must be a full caster class i.e. gains 9th level spells.
2) If your taking a religious one you need to be dedicated enough to an actual god you can serve as their priest. No I serve the omnicosmic force of om and my powers are granted by the idea rather than the god.
3) You only get levels of that class no getstalts, multi-classing etc.Now as you are right now your getting given the equilvilent of a level in that class in terms of spells, abilities etc but there are no changes in your abilities or added skills. There are 3 levels you can pick from with an associated cost . . .
Level 1: You as you are right now.
Level 3: You have to become a different race or the opposite sex.
Level 8: You have to become a different race AND a different sex.
I would have to think over which spells I might get, but I might go with 3, assuming I could convince myself to give more than lip service to the deity in question. Off the top of my head I think of any cleric spells that would aid me in this world. No, I would not go into any adventure path so level 8 is out of the question.
edit: Half-elves live a long time, and could possibly pass for human here since almost nobody would know what they were, so that would be my race. This level 3 idea looks more intriguing.
Okay so I spent way too much time thinking about this but decided I would want to stay who I am and stay in the real world unless I can become an advanced Race Guide Race. I'm assuming then that I'm a low level human expert generated with like a 5 point buy system or something equally mundane.
I'm going to go with a single level in Wizard.
Thrush familiar because it gives +3 to diplomacy and can speak a language from Lv. 1 which is fun.
Enchantment Specialization for the +2 to bluff, diplomacy, and intimidate. (not sure if this stacks with the familiar ability but even if it doesn't it is still useful)
Necromancy as my opposed school
Spellbook
All Lv. 0: With infinite casting these will be my bread and butter.
-Comprehend Languages: Oh yah!
-Charm Person: So damn useful, a little bit morally questionable though.
-Crafters Fortune (ACG): +5 luck bonus on next craft check, with this I could get luck and make all sorts of crafting or repairs, do I know how to fix my car? maybe not but with crafters fortune I have a good chance of getting lucky.
If I have a high enough intelligence for bonus spells or can gain 1,000 gp somehow I'd add some other spells
-Feather Fall: Useful for jumping down cliffs, preventing people from dying from falling.
-Mage Armor: Could be useful if I need to fight, would get a shotgun for offense though rather than rely on spells.
-Expedition Retreat: Run fast for a minute yah! not particularly useful generally but you know for winning bets.
Skills:
Would need Knowledge(Arcana) and Spellcraft as I currently know nothing about magic
Being human I'd get another rank probably goes to Knowledge(Religion) so I can figure out what crazy god gave me these powers.
Other ranks due to intelligence if any would go to Knowledge(Planes) and after that I'm not sure, maybe more in my primary skill Knowledge(Materials Science).
Feats
Scribe Scroll!
If I happen to have been a level two or five expert and get another feat with my wizard level I'd choose Magical Aptitude or Spell Mastery.
Or become a Lv. 3 wizard and be an Asimar with the Scion of Humanity alternate racial trait, but now I'm just gaming the system to get more power while maintaining my Humanity.
yes I misunderstood. I would be very willing be swap gender to become a 8th level druid. the Saurian Shaman would be freaking awesome. I AM THE MOTHER****ING T-REX!!!
Though being a Gnome Alchemist would be fun and I do love the sea. Though in my soul I am a bard, the jack of all trades but the master of none
Any race is fine although I would appreciate it if people could stop trying to think up ways to game the system.Real world no conversion you don't have levels what's happening here is the abilities of a X level caster is being given to you. To use an example above after they get 1st level wizard they Cann then learn whatever they want to improve. Sure they may not be intelligent enough to understand the theory behind ninth level spells but for the sake of argument if he was he could learn the theory and then the spells.
Well in that case definitely my first post minus the parts about skills and feats.
Part A
Depending on whether or not 3rd party is allowed
Level 8 Psion or SorceressRace: Elan or Elf
Reasoning: lol don't care, give me magic and a long lifespan and I'll make do. Spont caster because magic spells and ink are hard to come by.
Part B
I'll not risk an AP. Nothing says I can't find ways to level here. Heck in the real word, I might be able to "level" via study/practice/training. Much safer.
For spontaneous casters do we get to pick our spells and Bloodlines/mysteries or is it randomly determined?
Okay then. I'll take starting off as a level 1 Sorcerer in our world. Bloodline would probably be red draconic. As for my spells
Level 0
Detect Magic - I would assume I'm not the only human being getting these powers so having the ability to detect them would be nice
Mage Hand - Because I'm lazy
Spark - If I have magic I'm probably going to terrorize the drug addicts and dealers who live by me. Instant fire-setting sounds amazing
Ray of frost - I need some sort of combat spell that won't run out
Level 1
Mage Armor- Almost a necessity. Like it or not you going to be in conflict. I doubt the government is going to let a freaking magic-user walk around free when they can kill people with their mind
Magic Missle - It never misses. And I imagine it's the equivalent of a pistol shot with guaranteed penetration no matter the body armor.
Also the Draconic claws for when it gets personal. Also the great for intimidation
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My heart says level 8 Urban Druid. Thousand faces (gained at level 6) makes the race/sex swap essentially irrelevant, which is kind of gaming the system but I love druids, and the Urban Druid fits my lifestyle. I've had an interest in druidic/new age faiths since I was a kid and I think I could pull off being a sustainability activist, especially with druid magic to back me up.
My brain says I do not have the Wis to be a successful druid and would probably be better off as a 3rd level wizard. I don't want to deal with the sex change without Thousand Faces. My SO wouldn't like it and the ret-con might erase the relationship entirely. If I was sure that I wouldn't lose my SO (either I could transition back medically or magically or the retcon changed my SO's orientation), I would probably go for level 8 wizard.
No way am I risking an AP. I think I have a better chance of dying than surviving and getting the levels.
A Halfling Sorceror(Protean/Anarchic) 3.
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Part A
So the premise here is some god with too much time on their hands decides to introduce magic to the real world and you are one of the random 1% of the population selected. The rules are as follows . . .1) The class you pick must be a full caster class i.e. gains 9th level spells.
2) If your taking a religious one you need to be dedicated enough to an actual god you can serve as their priest. No I serve the omnicosmic force of om and my powers are granted by the idea rather than the god.
3) You only get levels of that class no getstalts, multi-classing etc.Now as you are right now your getting given the equilvilent of a level in that class in terms of spells, abilities etc but there are no changes in your abilities or added skills. There are 3 levels you can pick from with an associated cost . . .
Level 1: You as you are right now.
Level 3: You have to become a different race or the opposite sex.
Level 8: You have to become a different race AND a different sex.These changes affect all your records, photographs, other forms of documentation.
It really depends on if you're limited to your real world attribute scores, or if you're granted a "X point buy" to rebuild yourself, or if they're just automatically raised to an appropriate level for the level you chose. I don't think most people's intrinsic attributes would allow them to cast much higher than 2nd level spells, so any above the level 3 option have limited benefit.
It also depends on if you get all the skill points, feats, attribute raises, gear, etc of the appropriate level. I mean, components for spells? Spellbooks for Wizards? Can you Scribe Scrolls? How about taking all the other crafting feats? Archetypes? Prestige classes? In terms of Divine classes, only the Cleric specifically needs to worship a Deity, but would the Deity restriction affect all Divine classes for this exercise? It's Pathfinder races for racial choices, right? So, you get all the applicable racial traits? Can you take alternate traits? There's a lot of different options that can have a great effect on the possible choices and what of those choices is actually usable.
It appears that the full casting classes are :
- Arcanist (Int)
- Cleric (Wis)
- Druid (Wis)
- Oracle (Cha)
- Shaman (Wis)
- Sorcerer (Cha)
- Witch (Int)
- Wizard (Int)
My first thought is Wizard 3, and some race that has dark-vision or some other intrinsic racial feature which is awesome. Longevity is definitely tempting, and I personally have a fondness for the Dwarven race. So, without knowing the specifics of my above queries, Dwarf, Wizard 3. With an appropriate attribute score boost though, Female, Dwarf, Wizard 8.
Part B
This is an alternative to the level 8 option if you become a different race and the opposite sex you can choose to live any of the adventure paths. To avoid I pick WoTR because of mythic they'll all have added content so whichever you pick you wind up 20/10 and you can choose based entirely on personal preference.However its important to note you will be LIVING it. That is if you get hit it'll hurt, if you die your bodies returned to your family for burial and if you loose a limb well you've lost that limb.
You can take any class options you like in this option but the more min-maxed/powerful you make yourself the stronger your foes will get. That is the opponents you face will go from as written to you are genuinely facing an opponent who sets up their defenses with the skill and knowledge you'd expect of a highly trained level 9 warrior in this world (they may even aquire new abilities/levels/class combinations/allies to truly push you). Further any attempt to deliberately change your race/sex back prior to the conclusion of the path and returning home will automatically end it and send you home as well.
Finally you are returned without any items/gold/land etc with the exception of class abilities and those are rebuilt from scratch. That is your holy avenger +5 doesn't come back with you just the skills/abilities you gained and if you have say a sanctury (mythic path ability) it gets obliterated and rebuilt so you can't fill it up with several tons of gems and precious metals. You only get the basic sanctury you would when first creating/picking it.
So what would people take? Level 1 as they are? Level 3 or 8 with changes but not ris? Or would you risk it all for that mythical golden ring? If you would risk it all which path would you choose to try and make it through?
Not a hope in hell. You later on said you're surprised less people take this option, given the number of killer builds out there, but (1) no matter how killer your build, the early levels are extremely dangerous and swingy. One bad encounter/roll and you're dead. (2) You said yourself above, the stronger you are, the stronger your opponents become, which neutralizes the strength of any of the killer builds, because your enemies become even more killer to compensate. Way too risky, no way worth it. Particularly if, as you said even later, the prevention of gender reversal is only applicable if you're doing an AP, which is the only possible distressing bit of the level 8 deal otherwise.
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My SO wouldn't like it and the ret-con might erase the relationship entirely. If I was sure that I wouldn't lose my SO (either I could transition back medically or magically or the retcon changed my SO's orientation), I would probably go for level 8 wizard.If your not taking the Ap option you could instantly try to go back to being Bob Thompson it's just that every bit of physical evidence is in Barbara Thompson's name ID, school transcript, hospital records etc.
The problem with only physical records changing is that there are parts of my life to date that don't make sense if my gender changes. I have a straight SO and went to a single-sex high school. There are a few options I see for how this works:
1) My records change but everyone remembers me as my original gender.
2) My records change and everyone remembers me as my new gender, but for some reason don't think it's odd that my SO isn't attracted to and my and high school doesn't enroll that gender.
3) The things inconsistent with my new gender also change to be no longer inconsistent - my SO becomes gay or bi, and my high school stops being single-sex (at least for the years I was there).
4) I lose the things inconsistent with my new gender - I am no longer in a relationship with my SO and went to a different high school (in which case, would I remember having them or would my memory change to fit?)
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Level 3 Aasimar Inquisitor passing for human in this world. I would be a either a paramedic or police detective.
With the right selection of spells and skills I would be a killer investigator and with even basic healing spells I could save a LOT of lives.
Race would be Elf then Join the Armed forces and work 20 years and get the pension, then go work at another job with a good retirement ( Like several government jobs) then work in the private sector for 30 years and then live off my retirement income for the rest of my long life.
Gender: Female
Class: Wizard (Diviner or Conjurer)
Race: Drow Noble
AP: Iron Gods
to specify I would be a dragon from that "in the company of dragons" book (Taninim), you gain size with levels. would you never level higher than 8?
One percent of the world's population is over 71 million people. That's a huge number of people with their own agendas, beliefs, and outlooks. How much information would the presumably non-gaming people receive prior to making their choice? Do they even get a choice (as in "I don't care if you don't want this, choose." I find that intriguing.
As for me, I'd go
Race: Human
Class: Diviner
Spells Prepared: 0---detect magic, read magic, prestidigitation; 1st---comprehend languages (2)
Spellbook: 0---all (prohibited: enchantment, neceomancy); 1st---endure elements, unseen servant
Arcane bond: ring
Feat: Scribe Scroll
I'd focus on helping scholars figure out ancient writings. I'd also try to build a network of likeminded casters, sharing spells and pooling resources.
Aasimar with scion of humanity is tempting, especially if I could continue to look like myself. Otherwise, I wouldn't want to deal with the hassle. Heck, I'm hoping I'll get a spellbook. ; )
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It's 1 you still are on the books as attending a single sex highschool it'd just be a girls only one somewhere else or boys if your a girl and none there would remember that person attending while your original school does but has no records to prove it. Your So remembers the original version of you but any photographs the two of you took would shift to show two people of the same sex. Only physical records are changed and they're changed to keep things as close to the original as possible with no concern for anyone's preferences. However no memories are altered so unless you call your highschool or they have a reason to look up old records they wouldn't even know you'd changed if that makes it clearer. The point is that Bob or Barbara had a full set of records backing up their new existence however they'd have to convince their family of the changes (backed up by the new records)
I'd go for level 8 aasimar urban druid then. If it's just my official records that change I think I could cope with becoming trans and transitioning back - plenty of people have to deal with that without getting 5 levels of supernatural power in the bargain.
I'd take crafting feats and hope that the 1% of the population that's now magical could figure out how to get a materials distribution thing going on.
BTW my SO also would take the 8 levels, elf druid. Nature warrior couple, go!
For races with longer lifespans than humans, would you become that race's equivalent of your current age in regards to lifespan, would you inexplicably become a child of that race of your actual age (e.g. I assume a 20-year-old Elf would be a small child, since their adulthood age is 110), or would you stay as your human physical maturity but have the lifespan of your new race? I think that might affect some people's choices of things like Elf or Dwarf.
Also, what races are open for choice? Just statted ones? Paizo-only, or is third party okay? Are ridiculous/awesome choices like Dragon, Aboleth, and Drider fair game?
I think I'd go lv. 8 female half-elf Wood Wizard (arcane bond [ring]). Going male to female would probably be really rough, especially with family and obvious physical changes, but I could blame it on my newly found magic. I don't think becoming half-elf would hurt all that much and I think I'd be ok with leaving home behind for ADVENTURE!!! if the family disowns me...
Since it's real world though, I wonder how material components would work. If they now use real world things that are generally available like they are to wizardsI'd stick to wizard. If not, straight sorcerer seems easier. Finding some of those components would might be difficult in the real world. Also sorcerer might be better because if magic users are as rare as you say, coming across enough to add to a spellbook for it to be worth it might be difficult as well. Granted a wizard would at the very least get three more 4th level spells to choose from than a sorcerer. Which can be big.
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Alright, so, to clarify, any full caster (eventual access to 9th level spells) atTo address your questions (had to think about It)
No gear as stated earlier, skills/spells and if your high enough level increases + racial modifications for the ones just taking the 1, 3 or 8 option for those risking the adventure path I'd say allow them to rebuild attributes or keep their own. I won't suggest a method though as everyone's different. Again no gear can be kept from an AP just things like sanctuary from the mythic archmage path and they get rebuilt when you return. Everyone starts off with just knowledge. So yes you can craft items, scribe scrolls etc but you have to do them you don't automatically get any of the actual physical items., you need to find your own Bat Guano
Divine classes depend on the class but generally if their expectated to follow/worship a god they need to worship/follow a god. As I said if your staying all levels come from one class so no prestige classesbut you could for example take the Blood arcanist variant of he arcanist as it's a full caster single class. if you take the Ap your free to multicast as desired. Similarly yes you can take alternate racial traits.
True it's still a little surprising to me that people seek to have gone from this build kills all to if they're powered up to challenge me the build may not be good enough. Fair point about the lower levels though.
Posting on the phone while being bounced around the worktrucks tricky though so I may add more tomorrow in regard to your questions.
- level 1, with no restrictions,
- level 3, but you must change either your physical sex or your race (to a Pathfinder race of your choosing),
- level 8 and you must change both your race and physical sex.
If you choose the level 8 option, you can instead choose to run an AP as the chosen gender/race from level 1, and instead of stopping at 8, you can go all the way to Level 20 / Mythic Tier 10. You are also free to choose any class or combination of classes you like, multiclassing, prestige classes, non caster classes, etc. The trade off being that you run the AP with other people who have chosen that option and face the full risks of doing such, i.e. permanent death or dismemberment is on the cards. The AP is also powered up to match the team, so even choosing to run it as a very powerful build, or knowing how the AP goes, does not help you, as it will be altered to match you.
I think, if you've got Divine powers, it's a lot easier to believe in a God. You now have powers granted directly by them. Perhaps a level 8 Dwarven Forgemaster Cleric, specialising in creating magic items to change the world for the better. Could also potentially be done with a level 8 Wizard, or Arcanist, now that I look at their exploits. In fact, with a Valet familiar, it may be better with Wizard. Easier to skip spell requirements with someone boosting your craft check. Not really being familiar with any of the casters outside of the CRB kinda limits my knowledge here. Still, Item Creation seems like it'd be the way to go, as long as the components were existent in our world. If the components don't exist, then it is likely that the Wizard who doesn't take Eschew Materials will be in quite dire straits.
The AP still isn't worth the risk to me. It was already risky, having no idea on who or how competent your possible team could be, even more scary. I'm choosing a race that has longevity so that I can live longer, not less. :P I mean, it is tempting. Immortality is at level 20. But, still. Would never get to 20 to access it.
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Quick question would it change anyone's choices if you got WBL to purchase items (barring race/sex changing ones) If you stayed and anything you acquired in an AP in reason (you can't bring 5000 acres unless its in a private demiplane like the harrow bloodline gives)
Hmmm. Fairly sure it'd solidify me for level 8. Still not sure about the AP though. You would amass quite a fortune by 20/10, but the risk of death is still high, and all that money does you no good if you're a corpse. You can amass a fortune as a level 8 caster anyhow. Pick the right spells and you can change the world, and charge a fortune for doing it, if you so wish.
NB : The ability to level further is a hell of a game changer. What earns experience points? Enlisting in the military is now the fastest way to level, perhaps? Combat as an initial choice is more appealing, as you sure as heck level faster. Level 8 puts you one level away from Teleport. Teleport! NSA, meet the Divination Wizard, Divination Wizard, NSA. Wish! Miracle! It also further limits the benefit of the AP, if you can level beyond 8 anyways.
And if you are now gaining XP, is everyone? Can you train new Wizards? Clerics? By the sounds, you can multiclass at that stage, which opens even more options. Could the diligent and determined become Mystic Theurges? So many possibilities...
Ah, well then, with components remaining what they are I'll go with a lv. 8 female half-elf umbral sorcerer. I have no idea where to get bat guano and I'm not wealthy enough to just go grab a diamond and that's where eschew materials comes in.. to a point. Haha.
I picked Umbral largely because I prefer the dark, and it's just cool gaining a bit of power when you stand in the shadows.
Sorcerer, level 8, female Kitsune. Take Alter Self as a spell known, problem(s) solved.
Female Aasimar (Peri) Psion (Dual Disciple Nomad/Kineticist) sounds good.
Mobile, blasty pew pew man.
I think I'd go into an AP too, if only because possessing these powers IRL might be kinda boring with nothing challenging to use them for.
Not sure which AP though. Kingmaker?
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Mostly right,
Yes you'd get the spellbook I was thinking more of magical items for that restriction. You don't get the associated casting stat . . .
1) If you take the AP you can change your abilities.
2) If you don't you retain your current abilities (whatever they are) however you can add extra stat points level as appropriate e.g +1 to a stat of your choice, presumably making you a little more intelligent. Otherwise yes that's correct and unless your looking at Mithril armour or the like most components would be available. At least I don't recall any that would be a problem for general casting spiders legs, rods of amber, bat guano all common in our world.About the AP that risk was why I specified the full thing must be finished to return. I was originally thinking of allowing the option of leaving at any point but I decided against it. I do imagine more people would be taking the AP if they had an ability to give up and return at any point. Still I decided against that as it would require too many extra rules to avoid abuse. For one thing the mythic immortality can be taken at tier 1 I believe which would be given around lvl 6 probably.
As for "levelling up" I was thinking more real life i.e. you don't earn xp for killing things you learn new skills the same way you always have, study and practice. Just like a musician gets better by studying and practicing their instrument you'd get better by studying magical theory and practicing your spellcasting. You wont have levels just magical theory and knowledge. You want to learn a 9th level spell from a someone who came back? Well you need enough knowledge (probably spellcraft and knowledge arcane) to understand it. Rather like trying to learn high level theoretical maths if you don't have the basics your out of luck and how quickly you can learn those basics depends on the person however that's a bit outside the scope of what I was after.
Ah, got it now. Well, in that case, it depends if you get the skills associated with levelling. If so, I'm pretty sure I'd get the 14 Int for level 4 spells (assessing your own ability scores is hard to do fairly), and skill points in spellcraft would allow me to craft any magical item with the appropriate materials. Once the spellcaster cabal gets up and running, I'd contact them about my expertise and offer it to their service, for a commission. Magical Item crafting is sure to be in high demand, particularly with no pesky GM to prevent custom item creation. Between the amount of 20/10's that did survive the AP's and are leading the group, and the large number of lower level members, I'm sure I could amass quite a fortune working with them, and expand my spellcasting knowledge quite well. Once my expertise had grown and I had sufficient defensive magic items created to keep me safe, I'd seek the aid of a high level cleric to create auto-resetting magical traps around the world, casting vile spells such as Create Food and Water, Restoration, and Heal. Assuming someone hadn't beaten me to it, of course. Or the whole thing didn't go up in smoke.
I'd go Wizard 8. Spells would have to include Blood Money and Infernal Healing. I wouldn't waste a feat on Eschew Materials, when Blood Money only does HP damage if the material isn't costly, and Infernal Healing will more than heal it over. Feats would be Scribe Scroll, Forge Ring, Craft Wondrous Items, Craft Magic Arms & Armour, Craft Construct and Improved Familiar. I'd have a familiar with the valet archetype, for sure. I'd probably go Dwarf, not because I think it's an efficient choice for my goal, but because I like the Dwarven race. Half Orc could have potential but they're too short lived.
Yeah, if you could return from the AP at any time, and return to exactly where you left off, AP all the way. Sorry if I'm looking into it too much. Bit of a relentless theorycrafter.
Female Aasimar (Peri) Psion (Dual Disciple Nomad/Kineticist) sounds good.
I think I'd go into an AP too, if only because possessing these powers IRL might be kinda boring with nothing challenging to use them for.
Nothing Challenging? You sir are not thinking hard enough. Move to Chicago/Detroit/Any other city with crazy high crime and repeat after me...
"I'm Batman"
Humm... Wonder how this would work for those that are in all likely-hood over level 1 IRL to begin with, or for the sake of the experiment do we assume everyone is level 1?
At my age (Just about middle age), starting over with the equivalent knowledge/skills of a teenager isn't very tempting, magic or not.
Some things about magic to keep in mind. The lower level stuff is actually significantly weaker then modern technology, with some exceptions. Magic Missile isn't likely to kill anything in one shot, not even the family dog. Compare that to what any handgun can do (Let alone a beast like a .460 or .500 Mag). Mage Armor isn't likely much better then a good quality IIIA vest. Things like Comprehend Lang. on the other can would let you write you're own ticket in some fields.
Edit: Humm, Considering that Age thing and all, Maybe Level 3 Half-Elf Druid would work for me... Going to need to spend all my feats on bow and firearm proficiency! Lol
Female Aasimar (Peri) Psion (Dual Disciple Nomad/Kineticist) sounds good.
I think I'd go into an AP too, if only because possessing these powers IRL might be kinda boring with nothing challenging to use them for.
Nothing Challenging? You sir are not thinking hard enough. Move to Chicago/Detroit/Any other city with crazy high crime and repeat after me...
"I'm Batman"
Yes, like I said, not challenging. A level 8 caster vs a bunch of level 1-2 warriors and commoners? Yeah...
Some things about magic to keep in mind. The lower level stuff is actually significantly weaker then modern technology, with some exceptions. Magic Missile isn't likely to kill anything in one shot, not even the family dog.
5d4+5 damage (minimum 9 damage) vs 6 HP...yes, family dog is down for the count.
And that's not counting the more beastly lower level spells, like Scorching Ray.
By the time you get to Fireball (still a low level spell, and available to an 8th level caster) you're essentially artillery.
Compare that to what any handgun can do (Let alone a beast like a .460 or .500 Mag). Mage Armor isn't likely much better then a good quality IIIA vest. Things like Comprehend Lang. on the other can would let you write you're own ticket in some fields.
A handgun IRL is devastating because people are low level with little HP. 1d8 damage is a significant threat to someone with ~5 HP (the average HP of a level 1 Expert), not so much to the level 8 Wizard, with a minimum of 27 HP.
Now, toss in protections like Bullet Shield, Blur, and False Life (all 2nd level spells) and even the "squishy Wizard" is as bulletproof as any superhero, without any of the challenging opponents.