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Possible predictions/wishful thinking:
1) Abrogail is listed in the Inner Sea World Guide and Inner Sea Magic as as an aristocrat 2/sorcerer 16. If she's intended as the "real final boss" of the AP, she'll be upgraded to a L20 sorcerer with PC gear and a couple artifacts, putting her on par with Elvanna and Karzoug at CR 20. Bloodline is up for grabs, since Infernal is the obvious choice (and perfectly useful), but something like Destined (which is very defense focused) would be interesting.
2) If Abrogail's left as an aristocrat 2/sorcerer 16, then that shifts "real final boss" status to her CR 20 Pit Fiend "adviser," Gorthoklek.
3) It'd be interesting if it was possible to have a diplomatic victory against Abrogail, getting her to yield the throne and step aside. Though getting rid of that pit fiend might be a pre-req!
4) Dark horse "real final boss" candidate - Alichino the Jester Prince, Golarion's malebranche, might actually be pretty cross if Hell's biggest foothold on Golarion changes allegiance. He might be saved for the "Continuing the Campaign" section.
5) Mr. Jacobs and Mr. Schnieder may be co-developing this AP. I'd certainly expect Mr. Schnieder to have an active presence in the AP.
6) Even though this AP wouldn't go mythic, getting archduke write-ups and statblocks (particularly for Dispater, Belial, and Mephistopheles, though Dispater's "god" article already happened in Kobold) would be fantastic.
Answers and hints for the curious...
1) Nope. She doesn't have a direct role in this AP.
2) Unlikely. He doesn't have a direct role in this AP either.
3) It would indeed be interesting, woudn't it?
4) I'm relatively certain no one will guess who the "boss" of this AP is...
5) Nope. I'm the only one developing it. Wes will HOPEFULLY be writing a few of the support articles, and I'll certainly be pestering him with questions a lot.
6) No archduke writeups, sorry. Unless there's an uprising in demand!
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Can I throw in a hand raised for archduke writeups
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4) I'm relatively certain no one will guess who the "boss" of this AP is...
No one expects the Chelish Inquisition!
My biggest hope is that Cabal Devils get some love....I love Cabal Devils :(
Wonder if Andoran will make a showing in this AP -- it was apparently absent in CoT, and is an obvious hostile neighbor (through no fault of its own). Although this AP sounds like it will be set further away geographically than CoT, so that may discourage Andoren influence.
Unlikely. Kintargo is far away from Andoran. There'll be a little Varisia and a little Nidal in it though, as far as influences from other nations go.
Andoran is just too far away... although who knows? A PC who's an agent from Andoran who comes to Kintargo to help look into some stuff there might be cool...
Nidal yes please.
Thumbs up all the way on this AP. Love the different stuff like Iron Gods, Skulls & Shackles, Jade Regent. However, nice to go back to a more standard type of AP with I hope loaded with power plays, sinister plots and political intrigue....oh and terribly hard decisions.
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i for one think it sounds outstanding!
especially if Wes Schneider is heavily involved, that dude can f#$%ing write!
also is Wes doing an adventure for this, considering how well 7 days to the grave is received and how awesome his book of the damned entry is, it would be a damn shame if he didn't crank out a chapter:)
Wes isn't doing one of the adventures, alas... he's a busy guy!
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Things I would really like to know: who's writing the individual adventures, what will be the non-urban parts of the story, what kind of impact would the story have on the setting (end with overthrowing house thrune?) . Also, how mnay Hellknights will we get?
I'm still going through the thread, and haven't seen if someone posted this yet... but if not...
#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber Scott
We haven't released much more info about the plot of the AP yet...
The AP will have about the more impact on the setting than Kingmaker or Crimson Throne, but less than Jade Regent.
There will be plenty of Hellknights. Both as allies and enemies.
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Also! Sorry I didn't get a chance to talk to ya more at the Con, Mikaze! Next year for sure!!!!Somewhere in the middle-ish towards the front on the left side I think? It's a bit blurry now. Sleep deprivation. :) I was the one in the Maliwan shirt sitting next to Guybrush Threepwood.*
Getting rested tonight hopefully and finally catching up on the dealer floor. Paizo's line was CRAZY.
*I keed, Sam, I keed ;)
No prob! Paizo booth was crazy busy this year with the new line system. :)
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I read somewhere that AP 100 will be double-sized. Does that mean double the support articles/bestiary, or up to a double-sized adventure path instalment?
If it's the latter, I sincerely hope that JJ doesn't burn out over the extra work. I get the feeling that he works very hard as it is ...
#100 will be 128 pages long... NOT double sized. There's several things we're working on putting in there though, including...
1) A bit longer-than-normal adventure (by me)
2) An article about Aroden by Erik Mona
3) A 32 page "retrospective" article that presents a bonus NPC for each of the previous 16 Adventure Paths in a way that lets you use them as allies or enemies.
4) A poster map (hopefully!)
5) A shiny cover (hopefully!)
And maybe more. We shall see!
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Liane,
does this mean what I think it means? ** spoiler omitted **
I hope so. :)
No, although that would have been fun! I do love Cheliax (although I'm a diehard House Thrune 4eva partisan, so there's that).
My Super Sekrit unannounced project is ** spoiler omitted **
I know the adventures and novel lines are kept separate and why, but I still can't help but wish for an Isiem appearance somewhere. :)
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Well, this sounds interesting!
The AP is set (or at least starts) in the city of Kintargo, right? Which is right across the border from Nidal, right?...
Does anyone think that the possibility of a support article on Kytons would be pretty sweet? (Nidal is apparently looking for a way to topple the devil-led regime of Cheliax, so it'd be on-theme as behind-the-scenes support for a rebellion against Hell... >.>)
To date, we have support articles for:
- Demodand (Wrath of the Righteous);
- Oni (Jade Regent); and
- Qlippoth (Shattered Star).
So an article on Kytons is perhaps possible...?
It's just a wishlist sorta thing. ^^
Carry on!
--C.
From the Dept. of Expectation Management... not a lot of Nidal or Kytons in this adventure path.
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Will this AP assume that WotR was successful or at least include the possibility of crusade veterans returning home as a source of rebels?
It makes no assumptions at all about Wrath of the Righteous (or any other AP we've yet published). It's operating under the normal "It can take place at any time" as compared to the others.
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No prob! Paizo booth was crazy busy this year with the new line system. :)Also! Sorry I didn't get a chance to talk to ya more at the Con, Mikaze! Next year for sure!!!!Somewhere in the middle-ish towards the front on the left side I think? It's a bit blurry now. Sleep deprivation. :) I was the one in the Maliwan shirt sitting next to Guybrush Threepwood.*
Getting rested tonight hopefully and finally catching up on the dealer floor. Paizo's line was CRAZY.
*I keed, Sam, I keed ;)
Trust me... it wasn't the new line system at all that made the booth crazy busy. In fact, had the new (Gen-Con mandated, btw) line system NOT been in place... I suspect things would have crashed HARD.
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Trust me... it wasn't the new line system at all that made the booth crazy busy. In fact, had the new (Gen-Con mandated, btw) line system NOT been in place... I suspect things would have crashed HARD.
Yikes. D:
(but seriously, enjoying the hell out of Wrath of the Righteous :D)
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Trust me... it wasn't the new line system at all that made the booth crazy busy. In fact, had the new (Gen-Con mandated, btw) line system NOT been in place... I suspect things would have crashed HARD.Yikes. D:
(but seriously, enjoying the hell out of Wrath of the Righteous :D)
Yeah... turns out we broke more than a few Paizo records this Gen Con...
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Shensen!Because we really needed another hot, female patron? :PI'm willing to bet we'll get a hot bishounen male ally on a cover this time, especially considering how RP-focused and urban-centric it seems.
(bonus points if he's a tiefling)
There'll be plenty of patrons, both hot and not, both male and female, in this AP.
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3) A 32 page "retrospective" article that presents a bonus NPC for each of the previous 16 Adventure Paths in a way that lets you use them as allies or enemies.
Okay, THAT is badass!!!
Anything that adds to existing APs is solid gold to me. I don't like the "fire and forget" method. I like to see existing APs be buffed and groomed. This is awesome.
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#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber Scott
Looks like house Thrune is cracking down on illegal downloads. :)
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Looks like house Thrune is cracking down on illegal downloads. :)#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber Scott
As if we needed any more convincing about their eeevil!
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Interestingly, there are no new writers for this AP,which hasn't happened since Jade Regent, I think. Not that I'm complaining, mind you, considering the authors we are getting.
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M'naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrr...
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M'naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr!
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Possible predictions/wishful thinking:
1) Abrogail is listed in the Inner Sea World Guide and Inner Sea Magic as as an aristocrat 2/sorcerer 16. If she's intended as the "real final boss" of the AP, she'll be upgraded to a L20 sorcerer with PC gear and a couple artifacts, putting her on par with Elvanna and Karzoug at CR 20. Bloodline is up for grabs, since Infernal is the obvious choice (and perfectly useful), but something like Destined (which is very defense focused) would be interesting.
2) If Abrogail's left as an aristocrat 2/sorcerer 16, then that shifts "real final boss" status to her CR 20 Pit Fiend "adviser," Gorthoklek.
3) It'd be interesting if it was possible to have a diplomatic victory against Abrogail, getting her to yield the throne and step aside. Though getting rid of that pit fiend might be a pre-req!
4) Dark horse "real final boss" candidate - Alichino the Jester Prince, Golarion's malebranche, might actually be pretty cross if Hell's biggest foothold on Golarion changes allegiance. He might be saved for the "Continuing the Campaign" section.
5) Mr. Jacobs and Mr. Schnieder may be co-developing this AP. I'd certainly expect Mr. Schnieder to have an active presence in the AP.
6) Even though this AP wouldn't go mythic, getting archduke write-ups and statblocks (particularly for Dispater, Belial, and Mephistopheles, though Dispater's "god" article already happened in Kobold) would be fantastic.
Answers and hints for the curious...
** spoiler omitted **...
Hmm Kintargo is close to Citadel Enferac, home of the Order of the Gate.
Hmmm...
#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber Scott
Wow, these sound really great. Especially first, third and last make me want to buy and read this AP. On the other hand, I will not have easy time of translating these names to Finnish if I'm running this AP in future. Also, nice setup of great AP writers.
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#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber Scott
Ooo maybe someone tries to make a contract for all the souls of Kintargo and the PCs have to stop them.
*is excited*
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1. A Hellknight Leader.
2. Halfling Slavemaster.
3. Inevitables.
4. Cleric of Abadar because revolutions are bad, mmkay?
5. The person who originally got your characters roped into the revolution but was playing for their own side the entire time.
6. An insane Divine Guardian of Aroden.
7. The ghost of Quen Abrogail I.
8. The Devil that Quen Abrogail I became.
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The author lineup is nothing but brilliant. Two gals! Goddess Crystal! Princess Amber! Jim Grooves! James writing a 128pg issue 100 special! The guy called Mike who wrote Mud Sorcerer's Tomb! SIR PETT!
I was worried we're going to get some ultra-conservative AP to offset the inevitable Distant Worlds AP coming in Feb 2016, but if this thing is conservative traditionalist fantasy, I don't want to be a progressive liberal. Now I need to gain 100kg and wear a fanny pack over an utilikilt...
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Can I throw in a hand raised for archduke writeups
One hand raised by me, as well!
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I will not have easy time of translating these names to Finnish if I'm running this AP in future.
#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber Scott
#97: Kirkkaassa Helvetin Varjossa, Crystal Frasier
#98: Virran Kaarre, Mike Shel#99: Kirottujen Tanssi, Richard Pett
#100: Hopean Laulu, James Jacobs
#101: Kintargon Sopimus, Jim Groves
#102: Helvetin Luut Murskaksi, Amber Scott
With the obvious caveat that I don't know the content so some of these might be off until I know more.
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Things I would really like to know: who's writing the individual adventures, what will be the non-urban parts of the story, what kind of impact would the story have on the setting (end with overthrowing house thrune?) . Also, how mnay Hellknights will we get?
I'm still going through the thread, and haven't seen if someone posted this yet... but if not...
#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber ScottWe haven't released much more info about the plot of the AP yet... ** spoiler omitted **
I have to say, the adventure names are so awesome that they got my excitment level up from "hmm, Cheliax? OK, that could work" to "I REALLY want to know more about this AP!". Haven't seen names so cool since Reign of Winter.
Question: so there will be parts of the AP outside of the city. Are we talking sections of adventures, or an entire adventure happening outside the city?
3) A 32 page "retrospective" article that presents a bonus NPC for each of the previous 16 Adventure Paths in a way that lets you use them as allies or enemies.
OOOhhh.... this sounds *really* cool. Will these be never seen before NPCs, or extended writeups of ones that already had a part in previous APs?
EDIT: just noticed part #4 is written by James Jacobs... I think this is the first adventure written solo by him that is not a first adventure in an AP, I think, right?
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"Kintargo" (to the tune of "Kokomo" by the Beach Boys)
Egorian, Sargava, ooh I wanna take ya
To Varisia, Nidal, come and see it all
Cheliax, Andoran,
JJ is the man,
Egorian
Off of Nisroch Bay
There's a place called Kintargo
That's where you wanna go
To get away from House Thrune
Bodies in the streets,
Devilish skulls melting in your hand
We'll be freeing the slaves
To the rhythm of a Chelish band
Down in Kintargo
Amber Scott, Richard Pett, ooh this AP's set
Crystal Frasier, Mike Shel, some rebels of hell
James Jacobs, Jim Groves,
You'll buy these books in droves
Ooh I wanna read more about Kintargo,
We'll get to book one fast
And then take it slow.
That's where we wanna go,
Way down in Kintargo.
Who will it be? The villain's a mystery...
We'll roll out our stats
Or we'll perfect our point buy,
Everyone's going to be
Inquisitors of Milani
This AP delights,
Freed strix and dead hellknights.
The slaves' haunting refrains,
Say it's time to break some chains.
Way down in Kintargo
Article on Aroden? Where it all began...
Everybody knows a little place like Kintargo
Now if you wanna go to get away from House Thrune
Go down to Kintargo
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Liane,
does this mean what I think it means? ** spoiler omitted **
I hope so. :)
No, although that would have been fun! I do love Cheliax (although I'm a diehard House Thrune 4eva partisan, so there's that).
My Super Sekrit unannounced project is ** spoiler omitted **
I know the adventures and novel lines are kept separate and why, but I still can't help but wish for an Isiem appearance somewhere. :)
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Spoiler:4) I'm relatively certain no one will guess who the "boss" of this AP is...
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I wonder if we will get a new Archdevil in each volume, like Wrath did with Demon Lords?We considered that, but in the end decided against it.
While that is bound to disappoint some, will there be a devils revisited campaign source book around this AP's time frame?
Speaking of the campaign sourcebook line, while more volumes of the Book of the Damned and Chronicles of the Righteous could be neat, I was also a fan of the Lady Kaltessa Iyis, and think it could be nice to have a book like Dragons Unleashed, with one minion per archdevil. Ideally, each archdevil's best minion, and notes on what he/she/it is up to on Golarion.
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#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber Scott
Now that is a pretty list.
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unwittingly? he's probably been waiting for the right time to unleash the musical for years:) he is a patient sort when it comes to his AP master plans (see Iron Gods)
So help my poor brain, when is part 1 out?
ta
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About 12 months from now. (After Iron Gods [5months left] and Giantslayer [6 months left])
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M'naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr!
LOL, this has become the Budweiser, "Wassuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppp!" of the Fantasy/Lovecraftian RRG world.
*Cough* I feel that I should link this video, but I can't get on Youtube at work, so I recommend you google it and subsitute the "wassup" for "M'naarr". I think Cthulu would be amused.
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#97: In Hell's Bright Shadow, by Crystal Frasier
#98: Turn of the Torrent, by Mike Shel
#99: Dance of the Damned, by Richard Pett
#100: A Song of Silver, by James Jacobs
#101: The Kintargo Contract, by Jim Groves
#102: Breaking the Bones of Hell, by Amber Scott
Ooo maybe someone tries to make a contract for all the souls of Kintargo and the PCs have to stop them.
*is excited*
Cheers!
Landon
O_O
Well that sealed it. WANT. SO. MUCH. MORE. NOW.
