Is a Pistolero Gun Scavenger legal?


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Is a Pistolero Gun Scavenger legal? Specifically the Gunsmith part.

The question is that does Pistolero change the Gunsmith class feature or is it just there to tell you to pick the pistol (and not a blunderbuss for example)? Gun scavenger changes the class feature, that's for sure, but does Pistolero (or Musket Master for that matter)?

As I see it it just tells the player to take the pistol and not change the class feature itself. Similarly to an Archer's Weapon Mastery, Horse Lord's Combat Style, or other "Must choose X" for example.

Specific parts:

Pistolero:
"Gunsmith

A pistolero must take a pistol when she chooses a battered firearm at 1st level."

Gun Scavenger:
"Gunsmith

The gun scavenger's starting weapon is a mishmash of pieces that even other gunpowder enthusiasts fail to comprehend. Anyone other than the gun scavenger treats her starting weapon as broken, even if she uses the Gunsmithing feat to repair it. This ability works in all other ways like the gunslinger's gunsmith class feature."

Grand Lodge

No.

If any part of an archetype alters, or replace, the same class feature, they are incompatible.


That would mean I need to change the character concept. How about Buccaneer Pistolero? Are they compatible as they change the Deeds feature, but not the same specific Deeds?

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Kaapelikala wrote:
That would mean I need to change the character concept. How about Buccaneer Pistolero? Are they compatible as they change the Deeds feature, but not the same specific Deeds?

I think BBT answers this too:

blackbloodtroll wrote:

No.

If any part of an archetype alters, or replace, the same class feature, they are incompatible.

Grand Lodge

Go to d20pfsrd and look up the class. They've got a chart that contains all the archetypes. If you can't tell which archetype is replacing what, then that chart should make it clear. If any two archetypes have an 'x' in the same column, then you can't have both of those archetypes.


Kaapelikala wrote:
That would mean I need to change the character concept. How about Buccaneer Pistolero? Are they compatible as they change the Deeds feature, but not the same specific Deeds?

No since they both replace Gun Training. If it was just deeds that they both didn't replace the answer would be yes.

Grand Lodge

claudekennilol wrote:
Go to d20pfsrd and look up the class. They've got a chart that contains all the archetypes. If you can't tell which archetype is replacing what, then that chart should make it clear. If any two archetypes have an 'x' in the same column, then you can't have both of those archetypes.

That, or a "C" in the same column.

For "C" means it alters, whilst "X" means it replaces.

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