Spells; Usage, retainment, items needed, what causes spells to be lost, etc.


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Creating this thread for specifically spell related questions. After searching through so many other posts of other topics, spell questions are continually being asked.
The answer I'm looking for I haven't found...A spell-caster prepares her spells for an hour in the morning, during the adventure the spell pouch is destroyed, making the PC unable to prepare more spells, Can the memorized spells still be cast throughout the day? This was brought after an adventure where the PC and GM both forgot the spell pouch was destroyed. Thinking afterward I would assume the memorized spells were already prepared so no need for the pouch until following day. Has anone found any documentation in either direction?

Shadow Lodge

If a spell requires a Material component to cast and it was lost with the spell pouch, then the caster is unable to cast that spell.

The Exchange

More than likely this should be on the Rules board and not on "Pathfinder Society GM Discussion" - you'd get better answers over there I would think...


nosig wrote:
More than likely this should be on the Rules board and not on "Pathfinder Society GM Discussion" - you'd get better answers over there I would think...

This.

However, you don't actually use material components when preparing spells, only while casting them. So, if you lose your spell component pouch, you can not cast a spell that calls for a material component (except for specific material components with costs listed). You could always prepare different spells later, if you wished, as long as you could pray/study spellbook/ talk to the cat/ etc.

Silver Crusade

Also, spell component pouches aren't necessary for characters with the Eschew Materials feat, which sorcerers get as a 1st level bonus feat unless they have an archetype that gives it up.

Scarab Sages

A lot of spells have no material components to cast - around a third have no material components or Foci. It is the wizards players responsibility to know which is which.

As already pointed out lack of materials or foci have nothing to do with preparing the spell.

Grand Lodge

Also, in addition to Eschew Materials, there is a feat called False Focus which uses a divine focus instead of material components to cast spells, so a holy symbol of some sort, and it wouldn't be destroyed when the spell component pouch was.

Grand Lodge

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Ealhwine ðes Greata wrote:

Creating this thread for specifically spell related questions. After searching through so many other posts of other topics, spell questions are continually being asked.

The answer I'm looking for I haven't found...A spell-caster prepares her spells for an hour in the morning, during the adventure the spell pouch is destroyed, making the PC unable to prepare more spells, Can the memorized spells still be cast throughout the day? This was brought after an adventure where the PC and GM both forgot the spell pouch was destroyed. Thinking afterward I would assume the memorized spells were already prepared so no need for the pouch until following day. Has anone found any documentation in either direction?

The spell pouch isn't what you use to memorize spells. (that's what the spell book is for) It's what you use to CAST those with material components. You keep your spells memorized until you either cast them, overwrite them (if you choose) with spells you prepare the next day, or some effect takes them away from you.

If you have no spell components what you need to do is check your prepared spell list. Any spell that has an "M" component is one you're not going to be able to cast. Any that don't.... you're still good.

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