Vexxos |
I wanted to know the interaction between this particular group of feats. Most of what I have found involving Martial Mastery/Versatility is based on augmenting feral combat training.
I have a bite attack for 1d6
I have these feats
1. Improved Natural Attack (bite)
2. Improved Natural Attack (claw)
3. Improved Natural Attack (rake)
At fighter level 16 I get:
4. Martial Mastery
Would Martial Mastery interact with the Improved Natural Attack feat?
if yes:
Would the bite attack only advance 1 dice step or 3?
Just for reference:
IMPROVED NATURAL WEAPON --------------------------------------------
Attacks made by one of this creature's natural attacks leave vicious wounds.
Prerequisite: Natural weapon, base attack bonus +4.
Benefit: Choose one of the creature's natural attack forms (not an unarmed strike). The damage for this natural attack increases by one step on the following list, as if the creature's size had increased by one category. Damage dice increase as follows: 1d2, 1d3, 1d4, 1d6, 1d8, 2d6, 3d6, 4d6, 6d6, 8d6, 12d6.
A weapon or attack that deals 1d10 points of damage increases as follows: 1d10, 2d8, 3d8, 4d8, 6d8, 8d8, 12d8.
Special: This feat can be taken multiple times. Each time it is taken, it applies to a different natural attack.
MARTIAL MASTERY -----------------------------------------------------
You broaden your study of weapons to encompass multiple similar weapons.
Prerequisites: Martial Versatility, fighter level 16th, human.
Benefit: Each combat feat you have that applies to a specific weapon (e.g., Weapon Focus) can be used with all weapons in the same weapon group.
Bandw2 |
they won't stack, I think they would overlap and you could try to retrain them. INA usually just gives you +1 average damage anyway, not that great to spend all over the place.
EDIT: why they don't stack: bonuses from the same source do not stack unless specifically noted.
James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies |
INA isn't a Combat Feat.
But the larger question applies.
If you had Weapon Focus in Bite and Claw, would they stack to give you +2 to hit with each? I think that Martial Mastery is designed to do just that.
None of the monsters in Bestiary I-IV and Inner Sea Bestiary have Weapon Focus Rake. Rake isn't a natural weapon. It is a special attack. So all monsters that have Weapon Focus Bite and Weapon Focus Claw like Dire Tiger have other useless feats instead of Weapon Focus Rake.
Gauss |
No, you do not get +2.
Martial Mastery has exactly one purpose, to allow you to spend a feat to make another feat count for an entire weapon's group.
In effect, your "Weapon Focus Claw" becomes "Weapon Focus Natural Weapons Group" and since you cannot benefit twice from Weapon Focus it is only +1 even if you have two Weapon Focus feats that could apply to a single weapon.
James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies |
In effect, your "Weapon Focus Claw" becomes "Weapon Focus Natural Weapons Group" and since you cannot benefit twice from Weapon Focus it is only +1 even if you have two Weapon Focus feats that could apply to a single weapon.
Hmm.
Didn't think of it that way, but I think you might be right. This certainly makes more sense.
So he would have the same feat twice, and it wouldn't stack. Namely "Weapon Focus Natural Weapons Group".