Uses for Dragon Remains?


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So my players will eventually be fighting a dragon. I remember seeing an old issue of Dragon magazine that said you could build a boat with the remains and stuff. I may be wrong but I may have also saw something like being able to eat a Dragon's heart for a +1 or +2 inherit bonus to CON. And being able to use their claws or teeth for +1 daggers and swords. Any ideas for uses for dragon remains?


There's Dragoncrafting.

Items in canon:

Dahak's Fire

Draconic Perfume

Dragon's Blood

Dragon's Gut

Dragonskin Grip

Wyrm Pesh


Personally, I use them for shouts. It's like magic, but louder.

Errr...wait. Wrong game.

Lantern Lodge

Dragon Bile make excellent poison, found in the dragon's liver and gall bladder.


Dragons are sentient beings, why would you make anything out of their body? I see a dragon freely giving up some recently shed scales to make armor, but past that, I don't see them cutting off limbs, even if they can regenerate it back.


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There was a 3.5 Book called the Draconomicon that had a ton of things you could craft from Draconic remains. I am not sure if the content is open game but I highly suggest it for anyone who plans on doing a lot with dragons. It is an excellent book and I still use it as most of it translates easily over to Pathfinder.

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Silkinsane wrote:
There was a 3.5 Book called the Draconomicon that had a ton of things you could craft from Draconic remains. I am not sure if the content is open game but I highly suggest it for anyone who plans on doing a lot with dragons. It is an excellent book and I still use it as most of it translates easily over to Pathfinder.

Dragonslayer's Handbook has a few interesting ideas for what to do with a dragon's corpse.

The Draconomicon is also a great resource. When we're wandering around the wilderness, Silkinsane is actually more likely to drop dragon scales, claws, and teeth for our treasure then actual treasure (i.e. gp, artwork, gems, etc). For example, he gave us a mundane cloak that grants a small competence bonus on Diplomacy checks with Good dragons and Intimidate checks with Evil dragons. Its pretty sweet to be running around with a cloak of bronze dragon scales, too.


Jerky and BBQ!


Recently dead dragons outside their lair could be used for Create Treasure Map.

Things they can be used for: Taxidermy, food source, scales for armor/shields, weapons, poison, hide/leather goods and spell components.


please note: walking around in dragonhide/scale armor will likely earn you the ire of any future dragons you run into, regardless of type (you're basically wearing a person-suit).

Grand Lodge

Unfortunately Pathfinder's creators loathe dragons and the previous prevalence in settings like Forgotten Realms. The dragon hunter's handbook is lackluster when it comes to crafting with dragon carcass.

As above, I highly recommend house-ruling something very much or directly out of the Draconomicon (3.5) as it was easily one of the best sources ever done on the topic. The rules can go beyond that. I just let size be my guide (something Draconomicon did to a large degree when crafting armor) on weapons, clothing, armor, magical reagents, etc.

For instance, a Huge dragon might have teeth the size of a dagger or even shortsword. It might have claws curved and suitable to turn into khopeshes, scimitars or kukris. Its skin and softer scaled portions like wing folds could make clothing for a tiny character, or a belt or other magic item slot item for a medium character. The hardened scales of a huge dragon might fully armor a medium character, or like Draconomicon suggests, scales by heavy, medium or light armor per size of creature wearing it.

I also used the Artisan-crafting rules from Dragon magazine #345. Back orders or PDFs can help you there, which greatly expanded the idea of crafting in general, and give you more ideas how how to deal with exceptional materials for crafting beyond 'reduce armor check penalty by 1'

If in a homebrew campaign, I suggest that every kill of an evil monstrous being or non-sentient beast become an opportunity to craft something exceptional. Even in a non-archaeology setting, it's possible to embellish. I allowed Firepelt Cougar fur to be used in a cloak and gave it bonuses to diplomacy or intimidate depending on who saw it, or negatives for people who viewed it negatively. The greatness of being a DM, especially in homebrew, is to make an adventure. Telling someone they just killed a dragon, and now if they only take a feat they can create some dinky +1 to something item, or all they get is dragon bile, etc is just plain not fun to me.

What I DO try to do is create a gold tax by requiring the party to either take feats or require them to find someone suitable to make the items. If somehow that doesn't work, I will factor the size and cost of dragon-crafting into how much is left in a hoard.

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Silkinsane wrote:
There was a 3.5 Book called the Draconomicon that had a ton of things you could craft from Draconic remains. I am not sure if the content is open game but I highly suggest it for anyone who plans on doing a lot with dragons. It is an excellent book and I still use it as most of it translates easily over to Pathfinder.

That's an awesome book. Justin uses it ALL the time; instead of finding things like random sacks of gold coins, we'll fine dragon bones and teeth scattered all around. Players get excited for them because in the Draconomicon, you can actually make some pretty wicked stuff out of dragon teeth.

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Silkinsane wrote:
There was a 3.5 Book called the Draconomicon that had a ton of things you could craft from Draconic remains. I am not sure if the content is open game but I highly suggest it for anyone who plans on doing a lot with dragons. It is an excellent book and I still use it as most of it translates easily over to Pathfinder.

It had one of the best treasure-generating tables I'd ever seen... I still use it for that, when the inclination takes me.

(I also love Lockwood's dragons - in my opinion, the only Pathfinder dragon that's an improvement is the black, and maybe the silver.)


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
Dragons are sentient beings, why would you make anything out of their body? I see a dragon freely giving up some recently shed scales to make armor, but past that, I don't see them cutting off limbs, even if they can regenerate it back.

Yeah, it is rather morbid, but due to the scale of their strength, their tendency (particularly among the evil dragons) to view humanoids as slaves, pests, or snacks, and their insanely magical nature that makes most of their body parts extremely useful (and remember, with their size, that means a lot of body)

I might rate it somewhere along the lines of keeping a skeleton in your science class. With enough of the crazy and evil chromatics running around, it is not hard to get this written off morally (even by many dragons- the metallics might say "he had to be put down", the chromatics might say "you could put him down, you deserve your spoils")

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