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Last game my cleric (of Sarenrae) wanted to save the whole party from certain doom by casting Plane shift!
Thinking that going anywhere near my God's "home" would make us safe for a while so i said let's go to my god's plane!
Then the DM told me: "fine, where would that be and can you survive without any special protection?"
Do Paizo provided answers in a book somewhere as to where each god lives and how it works?
Do we use the stadard "planar wheel" of D&D 3.5?
Or the answer is simply Sarenrae lives in a Neutral Good plane?
Last game my cleric (of Sarenrae) wanted to save the whole party from certain doom by casting Plane shift!
Thinking that going anywhere near my God's "home" would make us safe for a while so i said let's go to my god's plane!Then the DM told me: "fine, where would that be and can you survive without any special protection?"
Do Paizo provided answers in a book somewhere as to where each god lives and how it works?
Do we use the stadard "planar wheel" of D&D 3.5?
Or the answer is simply Sarenrae lives in a Neutral Good plane?
Lukily she does indeed live in the NG plane. however a number of gods don't live in their expected planes, so don't make to many assumptions.
The biggest problem I would see is that you probably won't end up at her realm. Nirvana is huge, and I'm rather convinced that your players have no visited before. so transporting any place reasonable to a "habitable" place might be a problem.
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The answer to where Sarenrae lives is here.
That website also has where every god(dess) lives on their page. As a general rule, the gods live on the outer plane of their alignment. Rovagug is an obvious exception.
I hope they live in cities so that I can make them believe things with rumormonger.
I hope they live in cities so that I can make them believe things with rumormonger.
Abadar does but it's place of pure law so starting rumors would be difficult. I imagine inevitables would not be the kind to gossip and spread rumors.
I hope they live in cities so that I can make them believe things with rumormonger.Abadar does but it's place of pure law so starting rumors would be difficult. I imagine inevitables would not be the kind to gossip and spread rumors.
Rumormonger makes it a single bluff check to have your "rumor" be accepted as fact. Not really a talent that spreads rumors.
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The answer to where Sarenrae lives is here.
That website also has where every god(dess) lives on their page. As a general rule, the gods live on the outer plane of their alignment. Rovagug is an obvious exception.
Thank you, I could definitely use that website!
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The answer to where Sarenrae lives is here.
That website also has where every god(dess) lives on their page. As a general rule, the gods live on the outer plane of their alignment. Rovagug is an obvious exception.
Another exception is to note that Calistria (despite being CN) lives in Elysium (the CG plane).
Rumormonger, for the curious - though I really don't know why you brought this up here, Markthus. Kind of extraneous.
Rumormonger makes it a single bluff check to have your "rumor" be accepted as fact. Not really a talent that spreads rumors.
... the first is misleading, and the last isn't true at all.
A rogue with this talent can attempt to spread a rumor through a small town or larger settlement by making a Bluff check. She can do so a number of times per week equal to her Charisma modifier (minimum 0). The DC is based on the size of the settlement, and it takes a week for the rumor to propagate through the settlement. If the check succeeds, the rumor is practically accepted as fact within the community; succeeding by 5 or more over the DC decreases the time it takes the rumor to propagate by 1d4 days. A failed check means the rumor failed to gain traction, while failing by 5 or more causes the opposite of the rumor or some other competing theory involving the rumor’s subject to take hold.
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It explicitly notes that it's a rumor.
It requires a bluff check to succeed.
If successful, it takes one week for said rumor spread (instead of the normal round)
It notes that it's "practically" accepted as fact; "everyone knows that..." is how it is described as working - this is the exact same for any other bluff check that you make, save it's based around a rumor for a local community.
Can you do stupid things with this? Yes, of course.
("Secretly, of course, the sky isn't blue, it just looks blue, but really it's teal! That's what this mysterious 'science' tells us!" "Whoa! I gotta go tell my friend, Frank!")
There's nothing stopping those people of being convinced otherwise, though.
Also, it's exceedingly unlikely that deities are considered "within the community", as, you know, they're deities.
A GM is well within their rights (and it makes more than a little sense) to suggest that they are beyond and above said communities; it also doesn't note that all within the community accept this as fact, but rather it is a generally accepted fact within the community.
As an example, in the real world:
1) it is a generally accepted fact within the Educated Community that the World is Round.
2) there are those (even those with advanced education, thus within the Educated Community) that do not believe this
Or:
1) it is a generally accepted fact within the community of the United States that man walked on the moon
2) there are those who live in the United States that do not believe this
Or:
1) it was once a generally accepted fact within certain scientific circles (I know, because I've met them and attended class with them) that bees' flight was physically impossible, due to math not working out correctly.
2) there are those that suggested the above idea, while interesting, was bunk because of the self-evident nature of the fact that Bees could, in fact, fly
Or, heck, just read snopes to get an idea of things that are "generally accepted as fact" within a community that not all within said community share.
Thus you don't convince a specific person (as determined by you) of anything, just the general undefined "majority" of the community, yielding "generally accepted as fact within the community".
Unless, of course, you (or, more accurately, your GM) desire to read things in such a way as to create relatively nonsensical effects... in which case, go right ahead, and enjoy! :)
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Another exception is to note that Calistria (despite being CN) lives in Elysium (the CG plane).The answer to where Sarenrae lives is here.
That website also has where every god(dess) lives on their page. As a general rule, the gods live on the outer plane of their alignment. Rovagug is an obvious exception.
Yeah and Zon-Kuthon lives on the Shadow Plane which is unaligned rather than Lawful Evil. Then again, I don't Asmodeus and Zon-Kuthon would get along.
So basically, check before asserting where a god(dess) lives but mos tof the time it's gonna be an appropriately aligned outer plane.
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Another exception is to note that Calistria (despite being CN) lives in Elysium (the CG plane).The answer to where Sarenrae lives is here.
That website also has where every god(dess) lives on their page. As a general rule, the gods live on the outer plane of their alignment. Rovagug is an obvious exception.
Yeah and Zon-Kuthon lives on the Shadow Plane which is unaligned rather than Lawful Evil. Then again, I don't Asmodeus and Zon-Kuthon would get along.
So basically, check before asserting where a god(dess) lives but mos tof the time it's gonna be an appropriately aligned outer plane.
don't forget good ol norgorber NE living in LN.