youre weird.
Then again...
King was probably my gateway to androgyny attraction at a young impressionable age. :)
I remember that once I defeated the girls team and saw King with torn shirt and noticed bra I was surprised that (s)he wasn't a terribly ass-kicking dandy that hanged with two hot girls. I think that later parts made King a bit more feminine or maybe there was just increase in resolution allowed for adding more details.
We are speaking about KoF 1994, right?
Huh... It seems that it appeared in Poland arcades quite soon after release.
They did increase King's femininity over the years, but not by much. I'm not a huge fan of the King/Ryo pairing, as, like many AoF fans, I wanted to see her with Yuri(LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL).
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- Being rude TO ANYONE (with the possible exception of other rude people).
- Smoking &
- Bad hygiene (to me smoking is a form of bad hygiene)
- Messy people
- Illegal drug use... This is WAY more than a turn-off. I might call the police.
- obesity
- Hypocrisy
- Lies about anything important. I may not care if you lie about what your buying as a gift... but don't lie about anything that impacts us as a couple.
- As an extension of Lies is Secrets; If you don't trust me enough to tell me everything, then how on earth can you expect ANY intimacy in return.
- Violent people. If you are screaming and hammering your fist into the dashboard while driving us then I am imagining you doing that to me over some real or imagined slight.
- Anti-religious people. God is a part of my life and that isn't going to change. If you can't handle that then you need to get lost.
- Sexism
- a lack of confidence in their behavior.PS: Why is single ply toilet paper an issue for anyone? Just take an extra sheet and fold it into double ply.
This is a quite a laundry list.
This is a quite a laundry list.- Being rude TO ANYONE (with the possible exception of other rude people).
- Smoking &
- Bad hygiene (to me smoking is a form of bad hygiene)
- Messy people
- Illegal drug use... This is WAY more than a turn-off. I might call the police.
- obesity
- Hypocrisy
- Lies about anything important. I may not care if you lie about what your buying as a gift... but don't lie about anything that impacts us as a couple.
- As an extension of Lies is Secrets; If you don't trust me enough to tell me everything, then how on earth can you expect ANY intimacy in return.
- Violent people. If you are screaming and hammering your fist into the dashboard while driving us then I am imagining you doing that to me over some real or imagined slight.
- Anti-religious people. God is a part of my life and that isn't going to change. If you can't handle that then you need to get lost.
- Sexism
- a lack of confidence in their behavior.PS: Why is single ply toilet paper an issue for anyone? Just take an extra sheet and fold it into double ply.
Agreed. However, with the exception of the religious thing I'm in agreement.
Thank you Tiny Coffee Golem.
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- Being rude TO ANYONE (with the possible exception of other rude people).
- Smoking &
- Bad hygiene (to me smoking is a form of bad hygiene)
- Messy people
- Illegal drug use... This is WAY more than a turn-off. I might call the police.
- obesity
- Hypocrisy
- Lies about anything important. I may not care if you lie about what your buying as a gift... but don't lie about anything that impacts us as a couple.
- As an extension of Lies is Secrets; If you don't trust me enough to tell me everything, then how on earth can you expect ANY intimacy in return.
- Violent people. If you are screaming and hammering your fist into the dashboard while driving us then I am imagining you doing that to me over some real or imagined slight.
- Anti-religious people. God is a part of my life and that isn't going to change. If you can't handle that then you need to get lost.
- Sexism
- a lack of confidence in their behavior.PS: Why is single ply toilet paper an issue for anyone? Just take an extra sheet and fold it into double ply.
Why Lady Aranna, I am honored that you would bend so many rules for me....
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...Gasp...
~hits FHDM~
That isn't the right way to interpret what I said!
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...Gasp...
~hits FHDM~
That isn't the right way to interpret what I said!
Ow.
:-D
Take THAT, Whedon!!!
Turtles are cool.
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Smoking, smelliness & perfume. My nose is sensitive to those things, and it sometimes makes me nauseous so it's an automatic turn-off.
Somebody mentioned annoying voices before, and I have to concur. They can be great people, but if their voice is piercing my eardrums, I cannot enjoy their quality.
Playing "mind-games". I already have significant trust issues, so anybody who tries to mess with my trust, or set up a false situation to "test" me will pretty much instantly loose my trust. (havent had that happen to me yet, but I do hear stories),
There are a few other personality things, but they generally fight under the "dont be an a#&~&$$" heading.
As for those who complain about the cheapness (and one-ply TP), well :P. We prefer the label "Thrifty". (This is particularly notable to me since a dating since once quantified (through questionnaires) that my most significant trait was thrift...)
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Mine typically involve being berated for my mistakes. Yes, I made a mistake, even sometime in the past. Bringing it up constantly, or going on about it for over an hour, pretty much guarantees I don't feel good enough for anything "fun" afterward.
People who are firm in their belief that one person can, and should, only love one other person at a time
I generally go with Andrew Vachss on that one: "Love isn't an emotion; it's a behavior." You demonstrate love by your actions and support; the more thinly you stretch that out, the less you're able to "prove in" to each person.
That's not to say that a group can't all love one another -- they totally can. But it generally means that people who say "Well, I feel love for all these people," and then lie to them or neglect to spend time with them or whatever, are mostly not worth listening to. Presumably you're talking about the first situation, not the second, but on teh webz it can be hard to tell.
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I think Terquem meant romantic love.
The distinction is sort of meaningless, in Vachss' context. Whether it's platonic or romantic, what matters most is still what you do, not how you feel.
Yeah, you're using an entirely different definition of "love" than Vachss or I would.
The Vachss definition just doesn't explain WHY anyone would do all those things.
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I think Terquem meant romantic love.He means polyamory.
Which is a type of romantic love ;)
The Vachss definition just doesn't explain WHY anyone would do all those things.
I'm not sure anyone can really explain why anyone does almost anything. Input goes into your brain, your brain follows some kind of organic, illogical association game that passes for computing, and all the sudden you've "decided" to do something, usually justifying it with post-hoc rationalizations.
I know this may be off topic now, but I need to ask. How can someone be turned off by tall and/or ripped women? If there is some sort of obvious steroid use then yeah no dice for me either, but strong large women are definitely sexy. That's safety and increased likelihood of strong children in one beautiful package.
The Vachss definition just doesn't explain WHY anyone would do all those things.I'm not sure anyone can really explain why anyone does almost anything. Input goes into your brain, your brain follows some kind of organic, illogical association game that passes for computing, and all the sudden you've "decided" to do something, usually justifying it with post-hoc rationalizations.
Ah yes. Popular theory, that. The brain as a black box and all.
Only the experiments that show it are sincerely hokey, to say the least. Note the time when your impulse to move your hand starts, seriously?
People eat for many reasons, one of them being that they are hungry. Remove that, and people would not eat in that situation. Same with so many other actions and emotions. I repeat: Vachss' model gives no explanation as to why.
Only the experiments that show it are sincerely hokey, to say the least.
[sarcasm]Oh, good, I was hoping you were a professional neuroscientist.[/sarcasm]
I repeat: Vachss' model gives no explanation as to why.
As near as I can tell, the reasons people genuinely bond with others (in ways that can be assessed by their actions) generally have to do with seeking self-preservation, in his experience -- Vachss was a case worker for abused youth. Also look up "costly signalling" in game theory (although I suspect you'll simply refer to that as "hokey" as well and repeat the question).
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I know this may be off topic now, but I need to ask. How can someone be turned off by tall and/or ripped women? If there is some sort of obvious steroid use then yeah no dice for me either, but strong large women are definitely sexy. That's safety and increased likelihood of strong children in one beautiful package.
Because, to me that is very not attractive. I find very prominent muscles on a woman to be unattractive and unfeminine, I very much prefer feminine women with some percentage of body fat.
I also tend to dislike tall women because i have to crane my neck to look them in the face, me being 5'6" tall. But now, that is silly. I've dated girls head and a half taller than me. They were the ones who broke up with me because they were ashamed of walking around with a guy that much shorter. Shallow, I guess.
heart shapped faces
OK, I hear this all the time, and don't get it. I've literally never seen someone and thought their face was heart-shaped. Is it just a figure of speech? And are we talking about a real human heart, which would make her face all asymmetrical and lumpy? Or is it the stylized romantic heart, which would make her look like a barn owl and include a pretty extreme widow's peak?
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Lack of consideration for others.
Apathy.
Engorged, rancid, pulsing, bursting pustules.
Emotional unavailability.
I repeat: Vachss' model gives no explanation as to why.As near as I can tell, the reasons people genuinely bond with others (in ways that can be assessed by their actions) generally have to do with seeking self-preservation, in his experience -- Vachss was a case worker for abused youth. Also look up "costly signalling" in game theory (although I suspect you'll simply refer to that as "hokey" as well and repeat the question).
Cute setup. Can't say I am a fan of his style. And I don't agree that it says what you say it says. Ask yourself: If it were you sat down to read two thousand nine hundred love letters from one girl... would you fall in love with her, or get creeped out as all hell? More to the point, would you sit in that room when it has a padlock outside the door, while she leaves?
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heart shapped facesOK, I hear this all the time, and don't get it. I've literally never seen someone and thought their face was heart-shaped. Is it just a figure of speech? And are we talking about a real human heart, which would make her face all asymmetrical and lumpy? Or is it the stylized romantic heart, which would make her look like a barn owl and include a pretty extreme widow's peak?
Ask yourself: If it were you sat down to read two thousand nine hundred love letters from one girl... would you fall in love with her, or get creeped out as all hell? More to the point, would you sit in that room when it has a padlock outside the door, while she leaves?
If that girl went hungry to save money for me because she knew I'd desperately need it -- because I'd saved her from worse on a past occasion -- yeah, I might. When you're living in a situation in which death or abuse at the hands of others is a constant, if you can find someone that reliably has your back even at a cost to themselves, that's worth almost any price. (For the narrator, I think reading those letters is another "costly signal" that says he's still willing to go the distance.)
If that is your concept of love, someone you can trust and only that, I can only assume your experiences with love have not been overwhelming. While that is deeply sad, it doesn't give you the right to claim love is only actions.
It seems like a far more solid concept than "Oooh, I really think this person is funny/hot and makes me feel gooey," or whatever. Sure, you can have feelings for someone, but if they're not demonstrated by behavior, they're pretty meaningless in the long run. Also keep in mind the line from Othello, about "loved not wisely but too well."
Again, I can only say I am sorry.
heart shapped facesOK, I hear this all the time, and don't get it. I've literally never seen someone and thought their face was heart-shaped. Is it just a figure of speech? And are we talking about a real human heart, which would make her face all asymmetrical and lumpy? Or is it the stylized romantic heart, which would make her look like a barn owl and include a pretty extreme widow's peak?
If her face ain't pulsating, I'm not dating her.
If that is your concept of love, someone you can trust and only that, I can only assume your experiences with love have not been overwhelming. While that is deeply sad, it doesn't give you the right to claim love is only actions.
So...love is better when it comes from the flaky side of the force? I don't understand what you're saying here.
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If that is your concept of love, someone you can trust and only that, I can only assume your experiences with love have not been overwhelming. While that is deeply sad, it doesn't give you the right to claim love is only actions.So...love is better when it comes from the flaky side of the force? I don't understand what you're saying here.
Love is what we base those actions on. Why we are ready to do something for someone we love that we would never do for another. Die, for example. It is a very difficult concept to describe, mostly for the same reason we don't have words for scents. Emotions are difficult to put in words. Love has been likened to the symptoms of malaria, flu and fever. People describe it as vertigo, burning and so on. Today, we know that love comes in two neurochemically different phases: One based on dopamine, that isn't so different from psychosis if you measure the brain activity. This is what we call infatuation. After a few months of this, the emotion of love shifts gears to other neurotransmitters, building a completely different image. The feelings people describe here are intimacy, feeling connected to the other person, stability, sharing, happiness, and so on. Trust, while usually a part of it, is far, far from the whole picture. Love IS one of the transcendental parts of human existence. It changes us, makes us do weird things, and so on. The fact that it's chemistry and electricity makes it no less amazing.
I also find another thing disturbing about the whole discussion.
There are basically two types of sex offenders dealing with children. The first are focused on the act itself, and do not necessarily prefer children, but if a child is available as a victim, that's what they do. These are a mix of sexual sadists and other stripes of sexual criminals. Like other sexual criminals, these are possible to rehabilitate with a reasonable degree of success, according to what research has been done. The second type are people who feel their primary attraction toward children. And it should not be surprising that, like every other type of sexuality, it doesn't change.
So: Just as homosexuality was not seen as a sexuality per se some time ago, but only a "sexual behaviour", that is the official stance regarding pedophilia today, despite the evidence we see regarding the odds of changing someone's sexuality.
Because it seems necessary today: Every sort of sexual act involving adults and children is criminal and wrong. I still consider it a bad thing to demonize people. It is not their sexuality that is wrong (nobody's sexuality is wrong, and love is never the problem), it's acting on it that is. If nothing else, it absolutely closes the door to those who might seek help for it. And remember: You did not choose your sexuality. Nor did they.
So, with this as a background, it does not surprise me that Vachss wants to define all love as only actions. That doesn't make it true, or right. That just makes it a political statement.
I haven't read any Vachss but it sounds like he has it completely backwards. I worry about him.
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The definition of love as action, rather than emotion, didn't originate with Vachss, whoever he is. The koine Greek in which the New Testament was written has several different words for love. Christianity teaches that agape, the highest form of love, consists of actions increasing the wellbeing of another. Lewis's Till We Have Faces, a retelling of the myth of Cupid and Psyche, explores the differences between active love that seeks the good of the beloved and emotive love that seeks the gratification of the lover.
Thank you, Terquem. As you say, it's about consent. Children can't give consent, but then, it's not a given that an adult can either, whether through intoxication, other forms of incapacitation, severe emotional turmoil, cognitive handicaps, or the like.
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I think some of you would be horrified to know how many gamers wind up in Fed prison for kiddie porn and active pedophilia, and how many more wind up in state prisons. It's so bad in the Feds that the gangs have more or less "outlawed" gaming on any "chomo" safe yard (certain Fed prisons have been designated sex offender "safe" prisons, where they're a protected species).
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And a hush fell over the thread...