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Hi! One of my players wants to play an oracle of bones and wants to use a scythe. Are there any way, feats or class options to make it more feasible for him?


Do you mean because he is not proficient with it and will take a -4 penalty on attacks? If so, he could multiclass one level into a class that can use martial weapons (fighter, barbarian, ranger, etc.) or take the feat Martial Weapon Proficiency (Scythe).


I give you a simple solution

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Being a Half Elf with Ancestral Arms is also an option.


Dwarf favoured class bonus wrote:
Reduce the non-proficient penalty for one weapon by 1. When the non-proficient penalty for a weapon becomes 0 because of this ability, the oracle is treated as having the appropriate Martial or Exotic Weapon Proficiency feat with that weapon.

If you want to have it faster combine with the trait that reduces non-prof penalty by 2. Heirloom weapon has the drawback that it only works with this, non-masterwork, weapon.

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Umbranus wrote:
Dwarf favoured class bonus wrote:
Reduce the non-proficient penalty for one weapon by 1. When the non-proficient penalty for a weapon becomes 0 because of this ability, the oracle is treated as having the appropriate Martial or Exotic Weapon Proficiency feat with that weapon.
If you want to have it faster combine with the trait that reduces non-prof penalty by 2. Heirloom weapon has the drawback that it only works with this, non-masterwork, weapon.

That's what Masterwork Transformation is for. 360 gp at the nearest town and you're good to go.

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Damocles23 wrote:
One of my players...

If you're the GM and you think it's cool, you could just let him have proficiency in the weapon.


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Captain Zoom wrote:
Damocles23 wrote:
One of my players...
If you're the GM and you think it's cool, you could just let him have proficiency in the weapon.

If a GM starts giving every player anything they want just because it is cool the game starts to break down. It’s one thing to allow something that does not affect game balance, but giving away free feats for no reason is starting down a slippery slope especially sine there are rule in the game to allow the player to get what he wants. I am all for customizing your character and being allowing the odd combinations, but if you want extra abilities you should give something up, in this case that means spending the feat, or using an alternative racial trait.

If the GM only does this for some of the players and denies others that unfair to the other players.


You could just say it's a blunt, symbolic scythe that counts as a quarterstaff. He just bashes foes with the stick and doesn't need extra feats.


I think being a Half-Elf and taking Ancestral Arms is probably the best way. Bonus points for putting Paragon Surge on your spell list as an Oracle. Double bonus cheese points if you take Eldritch Heritage (Arcane) by 11th level.


Here's a list of methods:

Take a level of Fighter, Paladin, Barbarian, Cavalier, Ranger, Druid, or Cleric or Inquisitor of a deity whose favored weapon is the scythe.

Spend the feat on the Martial Weapon Proficiency

Take the Heirloom Weapon trait

Take the half-elf Ancestral Arms alternate racial trait.

Take the gnome Master Tinker alternate racial trait and build your own scythe.

Allow for a custom race build that has a weapon familiarity with a scythe.


Mysterious Stranger wrote:
Captain Zoom wrote:
Damocles23 wrote:
One of my players...
If you're the GM and you think it's cool, you could just let him have proficiency in the weapon.

If a GM starts giving every player anything they want just because it is cool the game starts to break down. It’s one thing to allow something that does not affect game balance, but giving away free feats for no reason is starting down a slippery slope especially sine there are rule in the game to allow the player to get what he wants. I am all for customizing your character and being allowing the odd combinations, but if you want extra abilities you should give something up, in this case that means spending the feat, or using an alternative racial trait.

If the GM only does this for some of the players and denies others that unfair to the other players.

So long as the GM is cognizant of the effect it has on the game, there's absolutely nothing wrong with throwing a bone (so to speak) to a player with a nifty concept. It's the same kind of discretion necessary when deciding what kind (and how much) treasure the PCs encounter or whether it's appropriate to introduce an artifact into the campaign.

In this case, there are several options within the rules to do what the OP wants, so there shouldn't be a need to do otherwise, but the GM certainly could make a custom alternate racial trait or custom oracle archetype that trades a racial trait or class feature for a weapon proficiency--or even just grant the proficiency.

And I see no reason to believe that the OP was playing favorites, so let's not jump to conclusions here.

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