Any feats that give proficiency with a longbow? (For human)


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Heirloom is not an option at this time.

Any advice?


Did you mean feats or traits?


Lol. In fact I did. I typed that up a bit hastily.

Silver Crusade

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Magpied wrote:

Heirloom is not an option at this time.

Any advice?

I've heard that Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longbow could work, but it might be a trap.

I think you're looking for Hunter's Eye, my new go to for Longbow proficiency.


That looks like a good choice. I'm trying to find it in the prd but can't locate it. My dm won't allow traits/options that aren't in the d20pfsrd or the paizo prd. Have another link?

Shadow Lodge

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You won't find it in either of those sources. It's an Andoran faction trait for PFS, just like it implies on the archives of nethys site.

Liberty's Edge

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Magpied wrote:

Heirloom is not an option at this time.

Any advice?

Do you mean Traits? Because the Feat to do this is Martial Weapon Proficiency.

In terms of Traits, there's Hunter's Eye from the PFS Andoran faction, which gives a bow proficiency and lets you ignore the range penalty for the second range increment.

EDIT: Wow, seriously ninja'd. This is what I get for needing to look up that Trait name.


Depending on what you're ultimate goal is, dipping first level as fighter may be an excellent option. Pick up Point Blank Shot, and Precise Shot while you're at it. Great choice for a Ray Based Wizard even.

The Exchange

If you're looking for non-feat, non dip options and willing to wait a while you might consider picking up Lesser Bracers of Archery. They grant proficiency in bows for 5,000 gp.


Magpied wrote:
That looks like a good choice. I'm trying to find it in the prd but can't locate it. My dm won't allow traits/options that aren't in the d20pfsrd or the paizo prd. Have another link?

The "book" it is is from is the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play, which is free.

Silver Crusade

Mind if I ask why Heirloom isn't open? Also I think there's an Ioun Stone that gives martial/exotic prof or something, but I can't remember which one. There's too many of the damn things.

Sczarni

d20pfsrd doesn't appear to have any of the Faction Traits for Pathfinder Society.

I would urge your GM not to rely on d20pfsrd. ArchivesOfNethys is really the better of the two sites as far as listing original content. They are both 3rd party sites, but since d20 sells 3rd party merchandise they had to remove some copyrighted content and edit the names of certain spells, feats, traits, etc.

Also, the PRD will only list content from the hardcover books.


Humans get two feats at level 1. Pick Martial weapon proficiency (longbow) for one of them to meet your need. The second is whatever else you want. Point Blank Shot?


Seriously, the trait Hunter's eye is absolutely better than the feat Martial Weapon Proficiency Longbow. Just half that trait is worth a feat in and of itself.


Torbyne wrote:
Seriously, the trait Hunter's eye is absolutely better than the feat Martial Weapon Proficiency Longbow. Just half that trait is worth a feat in and of itself.

Or, alternately, extra weapon proficiencies are not worth a feat, and a trait is the proper 'cost' for such.

Silver Crusade

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Nefreet wrote:

d20pfsrd doesn't appear to have any of the Faction Traits for Pathfinder Society.

I would urge your GM not to rely on d20pfsrd. ArchivesOfNethys is really the better of the two sites as far as listing original content. They are both 3rd party sites, but since d20 sells 3rd party merchandise they had to remove some copyrighted content and edit the names of certain spells, feats, traits, etc.

Also, the PRD will only list content from the hardcover books.

The PRD is not to be trusted, but PFSRD and AON have different strengths. PFSRD is better organized in my opinion, but AON has more niche content. Heirloom should work (post Masterwork Transformation), but Hunter's Eye is perfect for what you need.

Sczarni

The PRD is the official Paizo site. Of the 3 it is to be trusted the most.


Nefreet wrote:
The PRD is the official Paizo site. Of the 3 it is to be trusted the most.

Most trusted, but least complete, beyond hardcovers. Also, of note, I've found the other to be immensely useful, whenever Paizo institutes a change, be it errata (like for crane wing) or updating an old piece of content that vastly changes how it functions (like Living Monolith), so I can have the old version for reference, if I decide to use that version instead.


Another option is the Adoptive Parentage (Elf) alternate racial trait. In return for giving up your human racial bonus feat, you learn the Elven language and gain the Elven Weapon Familiarity racial trait.

Sczarni

^ winner.


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David knott 242 wrote:

Another option is the Adoptive Parentage (Elf) alternate racial trait. In return for giving up your human racial bonus feat, you learn the Elven language and gain the Elven Weapon Familiarity racial trait.

*begins shabby Billy Mays impression*

"If you buy now, will not only give you access to bows, but we will throw in the longsword/rapier set for free. And for callers that buy in the next two minutes will get the Elven Curved Blade and Elven language for absolutely no cost. And all this for the low, low price of one bonus feat (plus shipping and handling)"

In seriousness, it is a great option to take, particularly if you are not playing a character with martial proficiencies, since it gives you access to a decent weapon for any weapon style. ECB and rapiers, for finesse users, longsword and ECB for strength users, longbows and ECB for ranged users (I am sure it would do a lot of damage if you threw it). And all you really need is a great uncle twice removed that happened to be an elf (because really, once an elf joins the family, they can stay around for a long time while still being relevant)

The Exchange

you could also take a 1 level dip in cleric of eristil, you'd gain some domains, spell lists, and proficiency with the diety's weapon - bows.


lemeres wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:

Another option is the Adoptive Parentage (Elf) alternate racial trait. In return for giving up your human racial bonus feat, you learn the Elven language and gain the Elven Weapon Familiarity racial trait.

*begins shabby Billy Mays impression*

"If you buy now, will not only give you access to bows, but we will throw in the longsword/rapier set for free. And for callers that buy in the next two minutes will get the Elven Curved Blade and Elven language for absolutely no cost. And all this for the low, low price of one bonus feat (plus shipping and handling)"

In seriousness, it is a great option to take, particularly if you are not playing a character with martial proficiencies, since it gives you access to a decent weapon for any weapon style. ECB and rapiers, for finesse users, longsword and ECB for strength users, longbows and ECB for ranged users (I am sure it would do a lot of damage if you threw it). And all you really need is a great uncle twice removed that happened to be an elf (because really, once an elf joins the family, they can stay around for a long time while still being relevant)

(Love the Billy Mays impersonation, BTW)

Actually, you still need martial weapon familiarity for Elven Curved Blade. Elven weapon familiarity moves ECB from an Exotic to a Martial. But it's still a sweet weapon. I should order now!


Slightly different (but similar) route. Use a trait for adopted (elf). Then there's a racial feat for elves and half elves (maybe just half elves) that gives Elven weapon proficiency and an extra attack of opportunity. No idea where it's from or what it's called (probably Elven something) but I remember seeing it in hero lab one day. So far no one has been able to provide any idea that wouldn't lose you both a trait and a feat (other than martial weapon proficiency which is just a feat). This way you at least get half of another feat plus proficiency with everything Elven. It stacks with combat reflexes, too.

Sczarni

The Adopted Social Trait does not qualify you to take feats where the prerequisite is "Elf", though. You're thinking of the Racial Heritage feat.


Gwen Smith wrote:
lemeres wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:

Another option is the Adoptive Parentage (Elf) alternate racial trait. In return for giving up your human racial bonus feat, you learn the Elven language and gain the Elven Weapon Familiarity racial trait.

*begins shabby Billy Mays impression*

"If you buy now, will not only give you access to bows, but we will throw in the longsword/rapier set for free. And for callers that buy in the next two minutes will get the Elven Curved Blade and Elven language for absolutely no cost. And all this for the low, low price of one bonus feat (plus shipping and handling)"

In seriousness, it is a great option to take, particularly if you are not playing a character with martial proficiencies, since it gives you access to a decent weapon for any weapon style. ECB and rapiers, for finesse users, longsword and ECB for strength users, longbows and ECB for ranged users (I am sure it would do a lot of damage if you threw it). And all you really need is a great uncle twice removed that happened to be an elf (because really, once an elf joins the family, they can stay around for a long time while still being relevant)

(Love the Billy Mays impersonation, BTW)

Actually, you still need martial weapon familiarity for Elven Curved Blade. Elven weapon familiarity moves ECB from an Exotic to a Martial. But it's still a sweet weapon. I should order now!

Oh, darn. Well, I suppose it still makes a good option for Grenadier alchemist, since they get access to one 'martial' weapon. Can't really think of any other case where you just get to randomly pick a martial weapon though, unfortunately.

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