Arcane Strike and the quigong monk now legal?

[insaneogeddon]

Assuming you get a spell ability and considering faq:

"Spell-Like Abilities, Casting, and Prerequisites: Does a creature with a spell-like ability count as being able to cast that spell for the purpose of prerequisites or requirements?

Yes.
For example, the Dimensional Agility feat (Ultimate Combat) has "ability to use the abundant step class feature or cast dimension door" as a prerequisite; a barghest has dimension door as a spell-like ability, so the barghest meets the "able to cast dimension door prerequisite for that feat.

Edit 7/12/13: The design team is aware that the above answer means that certain races can gain access to some spellcaster prestige classes earlier than the default minimum (character level 6). Given that prestige classes are usually a sub-optimal character choice (especially for spellcasters), the design team is allowing this FAQ ruling for prestige classes. If there is in-play evidence that this ruling is creating characters that are too powerful, the design team may revisit whether or not to allow spell-like abilities to count for prestige class requirements.

—Pathfinder Design Team, 06/06/13"

Is this legal??

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

Yes.

[Under A Bleeding Sun]

I would say for sure yes, which is actually awesome

[Adam B. 135]

only problem is that the use of ki points tends to be swift actions as well. You might not be able to arcane strike every turn you want to.

[Pupsocket]

Adam B. 135 wrote:

only problem is that the use of ki points tends to be swift actions as well. You might not be able to arcane strike every turn you want to.

You don't need to cast a spell in order to Arcane Strike, you just need to have the ability to cast spells.

[Ninja in the Rye]

It doesn't have anything to do with casting.

You have to use a swift action to use Arcane Strike, most of the Monk's Ki Actions (adding an extra attack to a flurry, adding +4 to AC, adding +20 to speed) also require using a swift action. So you can't use those abilities and Arcane Strike in the same round.

[prototype00]

Just think of it as another thing to add to the arsenal of swift action abilities that the monk gets, say you don't want to flurry (or can't flurry thanks to archetypes) and your AC is nominally high enough, why not add +4 to your damage?

That Qinggongs get it seems appropriate to, the Specifically mystic monk being able to charge up their fists for more damage.

prototype00

[thefirst thelast]

Pupsocket wrote:

Adam B. 135 wrote:

only problem is that the use of ki points tends to be swift actions as well. You might not be able to arcane strike every turn you want to.

You don't need to cast a spell in order to Arcane Strike, you just need to have the ability to cast spells.

but is using a spell-like ability the same thing as casting a spell? it seems not. unless there's a ruling on that somewhere...

[Xaratherus]

thefirst thelast wrote:

Pupsocket wrote:

Adam B. 135 wrote:

only problem is that the use of ki points tends to be swift actions as well. You might not be able to arcane strike every turn you want to.

You don't need to cast a spell in order to Arcane Strike, you just need to have the ability to cast spells.

but is using a spell-like ability the same thing as casting a spell? it seems not. unless there's a ruling on that somewhere...

There is. In fact, it's the FAQ quoted in the very first post of the thread. :)

[The Beard]

Arcane strike requires that you have the ability to cast arcane spells; monks can do this by burning ki points. It progresses as your caster level, and as per the way qinggong works, your monk level is always treated as your caster level for anything you burn ki to cast. Seems like Arcane Strike would work well to me.

[Dabbler]

If arcane strike gave a bonus to hit, it would solve a lot of the monk's problems.