Thanos was willing to loan out the Power stone to Ronan to destroy Xander. He might have loaned out the Mind Gem to Loki to help him capture and use the Tesseract, after which Thanos would get both.
I presume that at least one of the unaccounted for stones will feature in the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie. I mean they kind of need to be collected by at least the 3rd Avengers movie.
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My thoughts on why Loki's scepter had mind is that it was affecting them even when Loki wasn't there. Look at the scene where they're all arguing and getting more and more angry until they realise that Banner is holding the scepter.
Plus there's the whole "It can't defend against itself" property when Selvig snaps out of it and tells Natasha to use it to shut off the portal device. Suggests that they're putting out a similar kind of energy. Doesn't necessarily mean that it is the mind stone, but it would make sense to me.
maybe Avengers will need the entire gauntlet to defeat Ultron
Highly unlikely given how close we are to Age of Ultron releasing. Even if Loki's scepter does contain the Mind stone, and therefore Hydra have it... that's still two stones unaccounted for. If it's not the Mind stone, they'd have to introduce three. So far they've only been doing one confirmed stone introduced per film. Age of Ultron is the next film (huh, for some reason I thought Ant-Man was coming out first, but no), I doubt they're going to just dump the last two or three stones in it... particularly when the Infinity Gems/Stones has always been Thanos' schtick, and they're already showing him trying to gather them.
Loki isn't exactly Thanos' b~~@+, here. He didn't have to get it from Thanos, nor does Thanos necessarily even need to know about it.
Though if he does actually have one, you'd think he'd have a bit more juice.
Nah, I prefer to think Loki's just being Loki, surviving on his wits, charms, and illusion magic.
To be fair, Loki's still pretty powerful even on his own. The scene in Germany, when he first walks into the gallery and the guards spot him, he knocks that guy clean into the air and throws the host onto the slab with no effort.
I think there was something more than his illusion magic going on there too... look at what happens to their eyes and so on when they're hit with the stick. They suddenly talk about the wonders they've been shown, and it seems to work on any number of people (except Stark because obviously it was hitting his reactor). No time limit on it either, only way to snap them out of it appears to be some pretty heavy trauma to the head. Could also be that Loki doesn't entirely know what he's got. May not understand the full potential of it.
Loki is a frost giant. That means he is very very strong.
True, but he's rarely ever shown it (since he doesn't really have to). He's a frost giant runt as well, which I suppose would probably put him on a level with a normal Asgardian... but as Agents of SHIELD demonstrated, an Asgardian labourer is still capable of flattening normal humans.
The strength isn't really the point either, since we're talking about the (potential) Mind stone. Was really just saying that he still seems capable of taking care of himself even without resorting to magic.
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Loki is a frost giant. That means he is very very strong.
Hmm, I recall him and Captain America going at it blow for blow in that scene in Stuttgart. I would think a frost giant should win that fight easily... Maybe it's about skill as well as raw strength or something, but then again Loki's attacks didn't seem to fling Captain America all that far or anything.
Loki is a frost giant. That means he is very very strong.Hmm, I recall him and Captain America going at it blow for blow in that scene in Stuttgart. I would think a frost giant should win that fight easily... Maybe it's about skill as well as raw strength or something, but then again Loki's attacks didn't seem to fling Captain America all that far or anything.
Eh. The Cap isn't exactly a normal human anymore, and like I said, Loki is the runt of the litter (the fact that he's not actually giant sized kind of gives it away :P Even Ymir, while looking smaller than his warriors in Thor, was still much bigger than the Asgardians). Hence why he was left out to die and adopted by Odin.
I realize this is TOTALLY not the point, but I'm trying to remember the last time I've heard a car backfire.To put it a different way...I still hide out in my darkened apartment every Fourth of July because the fireworks sometimes sound to much like artillery in the distance, small arms fire up close and mortar fire. It aint fun. And it's supposed to be my holiday.
I certainly didn't mean the question to be in any way diminishing of the experiences of people suffering from PTSD. I don't have any personal experience with it, and I wouldn't presume to know what it's like. If it came across that way, you (and anyone else who it affects) certainly has my apologies.
I'll try to stay more on-topic in the future. (key word being 'try')
isn't Loki only half-giant? half-Asgardian? I forget...
The movies seem to say he's just a frost giant. Rather, they only mention that he was found by Odin abandoned, and was clearly a tiny frost giant baby. In mythology yes, I believe he's half-Asgardian half-frost giant.
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...you ladies and gents think Ant-Man will be involved with the Time one?Can we just skip Ant-Man altogether and carry on with the MCU without him?
I think (hope!) we'll see a movie or two not tied to the stones (Iron Man 1 & 2 were kind of retroactively tied in).
And I just wish we could see Hank and Janet as they were shown in Avengers:EMH. I loved that take on Janet.
Loki is a frost giant. That means he is very very strong.Hmm, I recall him and Captain America going at it blow for blow in that scene in Stuttgart. I would think a frost giant should win that fight easily... Maybe it's about skill as well as raw strength or something, but then again Loki's attacks didn't seem to fling Captain America all that far or anything.
The way I interpreted that scene is that Loki did not want to disable Captain America; Loki wanted to be captured and he used the arrival of Iron Man to make his surrender seem plausible. His plan all along was to get taken to the helicarrier where he could use the spear's abilities to unleash the Hulk. Between the damage that the Hulk would cause and Hawkeye's assault, it would prevent SHIELD from effectively opposing Loki's plan.
If Loki didn't want to be captured, then why didn't he just slip away when Thor and Iron Man were duking it out in the forest?
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ant-man will be great
cap 1 was only "meh" in comparison to recent releases...
now that the bar's been set way up with Cap 2 and GotG, we tend to revisit previous movies and rethink our likes/dislikes
from the short trailers I've seen, I think Ant-Man's going to be amazing... compared to the other Avengers thus far, he's the most "out-there" or "least human-like" hero so far in the sense that this hero's power completely relies on CGI and special effects; I mean, remember how unique "honey who shrunk the kids?" was when it first came out... just the limitless potential of a guy who can shrink this small will *have* to make for an at least above-average movie...
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ant-man will be great
cap 1 was only "meh" in comparison to recent releases...
now that the bar's been set way up with Cap 2 and GotG, we tend to revisit previous movies and rethink our likes/dislikes
from the short trailers I've seen, I think Ant-Man's going to be amazing... compared to the other Avengers thus far, he's the most "out-there" or "least human-like" hero so far in the sense that this hero's power completely relies on CGI and special effects; I mean, remember how unique "honey who shrunk the kids?" was when it first came out... just the limitless potential of a guy who can shrink this small will *have* to make for an at least above-average movie...
Yes, just think. We could spend an entire movie watching him try to make his way across a room! Lol. Here is a hero, who can shrink to the size of an ant, but has all the strength of... a normal man? A nerdy scientist? A guy that works out at the gym a couple times a week?
Sorry, I'm being facetious. Seriously though, Ant-Man sounds (to me) so lame. It was more interesting an idea when he's possibly the guy that invents/unleashes Ultron, but that's going to be Tony Stark now. And the "genius scientist/inventor" archetype is already filled by both Tony Stark and Bruce Banner. At this rate, we won't be able to swing a cat without hitting a genius scientist/inventor.
While an Ant-Man movie, in and of itself, might be fun to watch, it strikes me as a waste of an opportunity to introduce a more impactful and interesting character (or maybe a superheroine movie).
OTOH, Marvel has surprised me a few time before, so maybe they'll do it again.
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At this rate, we won't be able to swing a cat without hitting a genius scientist/inventor.
Isn't that pretty much the status quo of comic book realities anyway?
Maybe they toss Hank Pym in Avengers 2 as Ultron's co creator? Michael Douglas has signed a contract. Because the Ant-Man in the movie won't be Hank Pym. But the other guy. That dude who stole his suit.
Scott Lang. Interesting. Did not know that.
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ant-man will be great
cap 1 was only "meh" in comparison to recent releases...
now that the bar's been set way up with Cap 2 and GotG, we tend to revisit previous movies and rethink our likes/dislikes
from the short trailers I've seen, I think Ant-Man's going to be amazing... compared to the other Avengers thus far, he's the most "out-there" or "least human-like" hero so far in the sense that this hero's power completely relies on CGI and special effects; I mean, remember how unique "honey who shrunk the kids?" was when it first came out... just the limitless potential of a guy who can shrink this small will *have* to make for an at least above-average movie...
I, for one, am going to remain unconvinced until the movie proves me wrong. I just don't understand at all how Ant Man's power is anything other than lame. I mean, I saw that concept trailer of him taking down those two security guards or whatever, but he seemed to be working *so hard* to do that - any of the other avengers would not have even noticed those two random dudes standing in their way. Not even Hawkeye of Black Widow.
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(and before you dismiss all comedians as unable to do other stuff, watch "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty" by Ben Stiller)
Paul Rudd has been in a lot of roles... he can pull off serious. And those who raise an eyebrow at the use of humor in Marvel, you don't have to think back far:
MCU: Chris Pratt and Robert Downey Jr.
X-Men: Hugh Jackman
Spider-Man: Both Tobey Maguire and that other kid
Pretty much all these actors are great in their roles because they have a certain level of self-deprecation and humor that the audience connects with.
Ant-man is being co-written by Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish.
Wright: Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, Scott Pilgrim, The World's End
Cornish: Attack the Block
Those are some very well-written movies.
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Oh man, just seeing Hot Fuzz on the list is enough for me.
If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend Attack the Block.
If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend Attack the Block.
+1 to that. It is a fun movie.
Maybe they toss Hank Pym in Avengers 2 as Ultron's co creator? Michael Douglas has signed a contract. Because the Ant-Man in the movie won't be Hank Pym. But the other guy. That dude who stole his suit.Scott Lang. Interesting. Did not know that.
Yes, Scott Lang is the Ant-Man we're getting (with a little bit of Hank Pym thrown in for good measure).
Kevin Feige has described this movie as being Marvel's take on a "heist" film, playing off of Scott Lang's comicbook background as a former thief.
I would be rather surprised if it had anything to do with any of the Infinity Stones, although I suppose they could have that be the object of the heist, if they did (it would be a little too much of a retreat of Guardians, though).
(I am a little surprised that they seem to be going with a full facemask helmet. Considering how often comic book movies try and get their actors *out* of their masks so that they can show their faces on-screen, I'd have thought the more open traditional Ant-Man helmet would have afforded them the best of both worlds- show off enough of your actor's facial features to allow him to be recognizable, emote, and talk without too much post-production soundtrack recording, while still giving him his superhero disguise.)
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(I am a little surprised that they seem to be going with a full facemask helmet. Considering how often comic book movies try and get their actors *out* of their masks so that they can show their faces on-screen, I'd have thought the more open traditional Ant-Man helmet would have afforded them the best of both worlds- show off enough of your actor's facial features to allow him to be recognizable, emote, and talk without too much post-production soundtrack recording, while still giving him his superhero disguise.)
Yeah, that seems to be conventional movie logic, but then I remembered Downey Jr. gets to act/emote pretty well in the "in helmet/HUD" shots, so I'm guessing they might do something similar for the Ant Man helmet.
Heck, maybe AntLang will find a soul gem that was deliberately hidden in the microverse?
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I agree with Rynjin: Thor can lift a front-end loader and throw it at you, so it's only fair that Loki could charm person a few humans to escape a SHIELD compound...
If it had been loki acting under his own power he simply would have tricked everyone into following him, probably with some scheme involving Thor in a dress. "You obey me now" simply isn't his style.
Ant-man is being co-written by Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish.
Wright: Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, Scott Pilgrim, The World's End
Cornish: Attack the BlockThose are some very well-written movies.
My big reservation is that Wright worked on the movie for 8 years, and just this summer suddenly left over creative differences, and is being replaced with Peyton Reed...whose filmography is...less than inspiring
Granted Winter Soldier was amazing...and the Russo Brothers had only done TV before that, so maybe I shouldn't be concerned...
Maybe they toss Hank Pym in Avengers 2 as Ultron's co creator? Michael Douglas has signed a contract. Because the Ant-Man in the movie won't be Hank Pym. But the other guy. That dude who stole his suit.Scott Lang. Interesting. Did not know that.Yes, Scott Lang is the Ant-Man we're getting (with a little bit of Hank Pym thrown in for good measure).
Kevin Feige has described this movie as being Marvel's take on a "heist" film, playing off of Scott Lang's comicbook background as a former thief.
I would be rather surprised if it had anything to do with any of the Infinity Stones, although I suppose they could have that be the object of the heist, if they did (it would be a little too much of a retreat of Guardians, though).
(I am a little surprised that they seem to be going with a full facemask helmet. Considering how often comic book movies try and get their actors *out* of their masks so that they can show their faces on-screen, I'd have thought the more open traditional Ant-Man helmet would have afforded them the best of both worlds- show off enough of your actor's facial features to allow him to be recognizable, emote, and talk without too much post-production soundtrack recording, while still giving him his superhero disguise.)
Yeah...the rumors I have heard suggest they are following Scott Lange's origin story, since Cross Technologies and Darren Cross are involved. Which would be great, since we would be getting a future Avenger who is more the thief character, which would differentiate him from the other characters. Also Scott Lange was motivated to become Antman to save daughter. None of the current avengers have children, so that would add a new dynamic as well.
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Its like I saw this twenty years ago in a dream. Two bits in the trailers reminded me of it:
Starlord is sitting around discussing how it will be impossible to escape because to 'get up there' is impossible because the guards will all be focussed on him...while Groot walks off ignored by everyone to take care of the problem.
Starlord is brainwashing the green alien girl into liking him and his human culture using only a walkman with a mix tape.
...you ladies and gents think Ant-Man will be involved with the Time one?Can we just skip Ant-Man altogether and carry on with the MCU without him?I think (hope!) we'll see a movie or two not tied to the stones (Iron Man 1 & 2 were kind of retroactively tied in).
And I just wish we could see Hank and Janet as they were shown in Avengers:EMH. I loved that take on Janet.
AGREED!!!
EMH was the very FIRST time I EVER liked either of those two characters... Wasp was so much fun, and FINALLY Pym had an interesting personality. Something that wasn't simply tied in as 'wife-beater or ultron maker'. The pacifist superhero was amazing...
Almost made me excited to see him in a movie!!!
Then they went Lang and skewered all my excitement for it. I've never seen ANY appeal for Lang... Ever.
I've never really been a fan of a tech hero... using someone ELSE's tech... it's just LAME!
Heck, maybe AntLang will find a soul gem that was deliberately hidden in the microverse?
While I'm sure that was intended as a joke, I was just commenting else where that James Gunn had said that he wanted to use Bug in GotG but couldn't because they "don't have the rights."
He said that at least a week or so ago and it suddenly dawned on me:
Who the hell is working on a Micronauts movie???
Turns out... Bad Robot.
And the most recent news about it is over a year old.
>_<
So yeah... it would seem they don't have the rights to use the microverse either.
...you ladies and gents think Ant-Man will be involved with the Time one?Can we just skip Ant-Man altogether and carry on with the MCU without him?I think (hope!) we'll see a movie or two not tied to the stones (Iron Man 1 & 2 were kind of retroactively tied in).
And I just wish we could see Hank and Janet as they were shown in Avengers:EMH. I loved that take on Janet.
AGREED!!!
EMH was the very FIRST time I EVER liked either of those two characters... Wasp was so much fun, and FINALLY Pym had an interesting personality. Something that wasn't simply tied in as 'wife-beater or ultron maker'. The pacifist superhero was amazing...
Almost made me excited to see him in a movie!!!
Then they went Lang and skewered all my excitement for it. I've never seen ANY appeal for Lang... Ever.
I've never really been a fan of a tech hero... using someone ELSE's tech... it's just LAME!
I have, but it's DC...
Love Booster Gold...
Ant-man is being co-written by Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish.
Wright: Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, Scott Pilgrim, The World's End
Cornish: Attack the BlockThose are some very well-written movies.
My big reservation is that Wright worked on the movie for 8 years, and just this summer suddenly left over creative differences, and is being replaced with Peyton Reed...whose filmography is...less than inspiring
Granted Winter Soldier was amazing...and the Russo Brothers had only done TV before that, so maybe I shouldn't be concerned...
Hadn't heard about that.
Will have to wait and see. Reed did do like 12 episodes of the Upright Citizen's Brigade.
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Heck, maybe AntLang will find a soul gem that was deliberately hidden in the microverse?While I'm sure that was intended as a joke, I was just commenting else where that James Gunn had said that he wanted to use Bug in GotG but couldn't because they "don't have the rights."
He said that at least a week or so ago and it suddenly dawned on me:
Who the hell is working on a Micronauts movie???Turns out... Bad Robot.
And the most recent news about it is over a year old.>_<
So yeah... it would seem they don't have the rights to use the microverse either.
What the heck is wrong with Marvel? did they do some kind of drunken auction at some point, at a party, and licensed bits and pieces of their property in exchange for beers? I mean, the micronauts, REALLY? someone ELSE than Marvel Studios has that now... REALLY? wow...
all of those contracts with other studios were pretty much in place before Marvel Studios were a thing. And back then Marvel was really really strapped for cash. Hence why so many things were sold off.
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What the heck is wrong with Marvel? did they do some kind of drunken auction at some point, at a party, and licensed bits and pieces of their property in exchange for beers? I mean, the micronauts, REALLY? someone ELSE than Marvel Studios has that now... REALLY? wow...
They licensed out rights to a bunch of characters in the mid- to late-1990's when they were going through bankruptcy and needed cash.
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Is that how we got all the 90s Marvel cartoons I grew up on? Because if so I'm 100% cool with that.
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What the heck is wrong with Marvel? did they do some kind of drunken auction at some point, at a party, and licensed bits and pieces of their property in exchange for beers? I mean, the micronauts, REALLY? someone ELSE than Marvel Studios has that now... REALLY? wow...Heck, maybe AntLang will find a soul gem that was deliberately hidden in the microverse?While I'm sure that was intended as a joke, I was just commenting else where that James Gunn had said that he wanted to use Bug in GotG but couldn't because they "don't have the rights."
He said that at least a week or so ago and it suddenly dawned on me:
Who the hell is working on a Micronauts movie???Turns out... Bad Robot.
And the most recent news about it is over a year old.>_<
So yeah... it would seem they don't have the rights to use the microverse either.
Pretty much. Except change "beers" to "the Cash necessary to continue to publish comic books".
What the heck is wrong with Marvel? did they do some kind of drunken auction at some point, at a party, and licensed bits and pieces of their property in exchange for beers? I mean, the micronauts, REALLY? someone ELSE than Marvel Studios has that now... REALLY? wow...
The Micronauts were never Marvel's property, though; they were a licensed property that Marvel created a comic series about. They lost the license to it ages ago and haven't been able to get it back.
It's weird that Gunn says they don't have the rights to Bug, though, as Bug was one of the few parts of the Micronauts title that Marvel retained the rights to (he was an original character created for the book- along with Marionette and Arcturus Rann. Rann and Bug were both based on toys in the Micronauts line, but used different names and things which is why Marvel kept the rights). That's one reason why those three are still in the Marvel Universe.
The Microverse- as far as I am aware- is also a Marvel property, and not something that was ever connected directly to the toy line.
Maybe there was a conflict over the visual appearance similarity between Bug the character and the Galactic Warrior toy he was based on that kept them from being able to use him.
According to what I've been able to find out [I can't claim 100% accuracy as the available info is sparse at best], Dave Johnson (Ben 10, DC/Marvel cover artist) had been developing a Micronauts toon.
But then the rights got sold to Hasbro just as the MCU started getting underway and before Disney had bought Marvel. Sometime in about 2009 it was announced the Abrahm's would be working on a film.
That ended the possibility of the cartoon coming to life... some of the art for it is out there on the interwebs and looks decent, but word was that Bug got replaced by a far more goofy looking character called "Dit-Dat." (Which sounds like a lyric to a Iggy Azalea song.)
There had also been an attempt to make an animated mini-series for Sci-Fi Channel in the late 90's but never got off the ground. That was apparently supposed to lead into a 26 episode run and a lot of merchandising opportunity.
Abrams is clearly a little too busy for Micronauts these days.