Krensky |
Hama wrote:He does voice-work too. Maybe Freehold is hating him in advance of an eventual anime to english dub?Freehold DM wrote:Why, he's an excellent actor and awesome with his fans.Hama wrote:I come pretty close.Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:Nobody can hate Nathan Fillion.Freehold DM wrote:check the FaWtL thread. I was in the presence of the entire firefly cast and let them leave whole and unspoiled.Hmmm, interesting. So even your black manliness provides no protection against Captain Tight Pants' aura of devastating charmingness.
You can't hate the voice of God!
Krensky |
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Yeah, sorry, i prefer to hear the actual version with the original actors, not some half baked piece of crap, strung together at the last possible moment with the people they had to pay the least.
That doesn't really describe any dub done in the past decade, and it's a good description of the VA process for lots of shows in Japan.
Pretty much all VA work everywhere is done with last minute edits, almost no prep time, at the last minute, for as little money as possible.
Dubs used to be horrible, but so did most subtitles as well.
Nowadays a dub from Funimation, Sentai Filmworks or VIZ is easily the same quality as the Japanese audio and that's been the case for at least a decade. Even ADV's old dubs are fairly high quality.
Now, I don't know what Polish dubbing is like, but I assume since we're all writing in English that we're talking about English dubs.
Grey Lensman |
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We are. Also I'm not Polish :)
Anyway, I've watched dubs, and I VASTLY, VASTLY prefer the original VA work, and I can actually speak Japanese a little. Maybe it's just me, but in all the English dubs, VAs sound like they are doing the dubbing unwillingly.
I speak only a word of two of Japanese, but when I watch subs I often run into what I call the 'whisper voice' used by female VA's. To me, it sounds flat and emotionless. Oddly enough, I adore Japanese singing.
Thankfully for fans of both versions, the days of VCR tapes and having to choose one (and maybe not being able to get the format you want) are over. DVDs and Blurays can fit them both on the same disk.
My main point of contention with sub fans is so many of them come across as if the mere existence of a dub (which no one has forced them to watch) somehow ruins the sanctity of the subtitled version for all time. I can't have a good opinion of someone who comes across thinking that things they don't personally like should not be available to anyone.
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We are. Also I'm not Polish :)
Anyway, I've watched dubs, and I VASTLY, VASTLY prefer the original VA work, and I can actually speak Japanese a little. Maybe it's just me, but in all the English dubs, VAs sound like they are doing the dubbing unwillingly.
Sorry, I know that. I have no idea why I thought Polish... I blame working twenty hours this weekend.
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Hama wrote:Sorry, I know that. I have no idea why I thought Polish... I blame working twenty hours this weekend.We are. Also I'm not Polish :)
Anyway, I've watched dubs, and I VASTLY, VASTLY prefer the original VA work, and I can actually speak Japanese a little. Maybe it's just me, but in all the English dubs, VAs sound like they are doing the dubbing unwillingly.
I think we have some subtitle fans who are from non-English speaking countries (perhaps one mentioned a while back was Poland?) who has stated that their dubbing studios are still trying to reach where the US ones were 30 years ago, often using the same VA for multiple major characters in the same program.
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February, I think.
February 15, 2016, if wikipedia is to be believed.
DAG-GUM-IT it takes forever.
links up nicely with my nyponycon festivities.
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NenkotaMoon wrote:Hellsing is better dubbed than subbed.No it is not.
Let's not start this again.
Dubs vs Subs is a matter of taste, much like preferring one drink over another.
However, the opinion that the existence of one somehow ruins the other despite no one breaking into your home and forcing you to watch, Clockwork Orange style, deserves to be ridiculed at every opportunity.
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Hama wrote:NenkotaMoon wrote:Hellsing is better dubbed than subbed.No it is not.Let's not start this again.
Dubs vs Subs is a matter of taste, much like preferring one drink over another.
However, the opinion that the existence of one somehow ruins the other despite no one breaking into your home and forcing you to watch, Clockwork Orange style, deserves to be ridiculed at every opportunity.
I agree wholeheartedly.
But the Hellsing dub is terrible. I mean Hellsing Ultimate Abridged has better voice work. And those guys are semi-amateurs.
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I generally avoid dubs because I enjoy listening to Japaneze. But there are some excellent dubs out there. Record of Lodoss War is one of those, aside from the main character who sounds like his genitals are in a vise.
Well, Deedlit DOES lead Parn around and get him involved in all sorts of dangerous dealings because she's interested in his magic sword...
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Leia Organa appearing on SW Rebels
She'll be younger, more inexperienced, less forceful. Growing into the Leia we know and love.
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baron arem heshvaun wrote:Meanwhile back on Tatooine, her Ne'er–do–well slacker twin is trying to bull's eye womp rats.do kids still say slacker?
I use that term at least once a day, typically to mess with co-workers any time they use even the smallest amount of vacation or sick time.
But I'm not exactly a kid. At least, not physically......
Aberzombie |
Very interesting trailer.
And who was the dude with the white mask? Maybe the original Ren? As in, maybe he started the order after the downfall of the Jedi, and we'll see how that order became corrupted into the Knights of Ren. Maybe Ezra is the future founder of the Knights.
And who was that old dude, the one who told Ezra to call him "Old Master" (if I was hearing correctly)? Could that have been the past version of Supreme Leader Snoke?
Can't wait to see Vader take on Anakin? Sounds like he's gonna get in her head and use his fall against her, a sort of "you could have stopped this but you left" type of mind game.
Either way, it looks pretty cool.
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Mid season trailer.
That may be the best trailer yet.
I was watching that from a taxi cab the other day and the cab driver heard it and we had a 10 minute conversation about The Force Awakens.
Aranna |
It was ... ominous.
The overuse of what should have been a dead Darth Mal... I didn't like when they resurrected him for Clone Wars, and I didn't like it here either.
Also the lame endings of the Inquisitors... these were the people being built up as a major challenge for our heroes and they get cut down like Red Shirts on a TOS episode.
Ominous of course because we now have confirmation of Ezra turning to the Dark Side.
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It was ... ominous.
** spoiler omitted **
And just about every Jedi has flirted with the dark side outside of the main three light side extremists. A good number turn to it permanently, but many do not.
ShinHakkaider |
ShinHakkaider wrote:what clay pot do you keep your soul in? It was amazing!Freehold DM wrote:That's funny because I thought that it was pretty mediocre.Oh. My. God.
This most recent episode was the most amazing thing I have seen on American television in years. Years.
There was very little that was amazing about it from my point of view but I dont begrudge you your enjoyment of it. I dont watch it normally in real time but since it was an hourlong season finale I tuned in.
Aranna |
Oh it had good moments... it just wasn't ALL good.
I for one love the lightsaber battle between Anakin and Ahsoka where she finally figures out who he really is.
And in a meta sense if this is a way to exit those two characters without making any final decisions about them then great, well done.
I also like the game Maul is playing the whole time. Even if it would have been better done with someone else.
The series also has yet to explain where the Inquisitors fit into the universe and dark side. There are always two Sith a master and an apprentice. They aren't Sith but clearly dark side trained... they did something similar in Clone Wars with Asajj Ventress and Savage Opress. What is the difference here?
Grey Lensman |
Oh it had good moments... it just wasn't ALL good.
** spoiler omitted **The series also has yet to explain where the Inquisitors fit into the universe and dark side. There are always two Sith a master and an apprentice. They aren't Sith but clearly dark side trained... they did something similar in Clone Wars with Asajj Ventress and Savage Opress. What is the difference here?
If they aren't trained enough to be full Sith then maybe they don't count? Evil people aren't always likely to follow rules - they're just another thing in the way between them and what they want.
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I imagine their master (Vader? Or someone yet unseen?) would train them up, and then graduation would be "all apprentices fight to the death, keep the last one standing." It still isn't clear if they are Sith or something else.
It's interesting though that Ahsoka doesn't self-identify as Jedi either. Maybe they're building to more complexity in the Force than just Dark Side vs. Light Side, Sith vs. Jedi... since that old outlook has too many shortcomings/problems (imbalance?).