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Considering some of the methods satyrs were said to have used to slake their lusts, I'd say Chaotic Neutral is the charitable interpretation - they could just as well have ended up as the Fey version of incubi.
Nymphs could certainly get people into trouble, but the stories about them tend to be a tad less rapey.
But more murdery. I'm not sure whether that evens out.
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According to greek myth, satyrs ARE the male version of nymphs.
Eh, except, not really. "Nymph" is kind of a catch-all term for nubile female Daimones who strech from the daughters of a Titan (Oceanides, Hesperides), through minor personification of a particular lake or river, to nature spirits of lesser might linked to a single tree (Dryads). Satyrs were rural daimones mostly linked to the worship of Dionysus and Pan. They are not counterparts to one another. That's a mistaken assumption arising from the fact that Satyrs were commonly depicted pursuing Nymphs (EVERYONE is depicting pursuing Nymphs).
Considering some of the methods satyrs were said to have used to slake their lusts, I'd say Chaotic Neutral is the charitable interpretation - they could just as well have ended up as the Fey version of incubi.
Nymphs could certainly get people into trouble, but the stories about them tend to be a tad less rapey.
Half of the liaisons in Greek mythology, and them some, are "rapey" by today's standards (Deities usually ignored the "informed" part of in "informed consent", if not the whole thing, for example). It doesn't seem fair to selectively keep some facets of the mythology while changing others.
But that's digressing a bit. My main point is that I really do wish to see Manymphs, or some equivalent, and also a male deity of love and beauty (They don't even need to create a new god, just play up certain aspects of already existing ones). There's nothing to lose, and a lot to gain.
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What about Erastil?
Real men aren't afraid of commitment. They'll build you a log cabin with their bare hands, build a fire to keep you warm, hunt for food for you and your little ones, and keep you safe from the wild beasts.
That's real.
That's truth.
That's love.
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Now, myself, I'd give that honor to Lord Tsukyio of teh Dragon Empires. I mean, his basic raison d'etre is being a perfect consort. Plus, a a moon/night deity, he's bound to have all that dark, brooding and soulful nature that's so attractive.
"My name is Lord Tsukyio, I put the Sensual in Consensual."
I absolutely support Tsukiyo being bishounen as @#$%. And gaining more traction in the Inner Sea region, because man, that is an awesome god.
Honestly, if he ever gets art, I'd actually strongly recommend either getting Carolina Eade to do it or someone outside the usual artist pool that does that kind over-the-top bishounen artwork just to sell it completely.
Also, Lymnieris. Speaking of putting sensual in consensual... And one of the most responsible of the love (demi)gods to boot.
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I....may have had a few dreams involving Lymnieris and Arshea from time to time...
Cernunnos too...if one must be entirely honest...
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Do we have a Deity of Wet Dreams in Golarion? Can't remember.Dagon, technically.
I see what you did there...
Do we have a Deity of Wet Dreams in Golarion? Can't remember.Dagon, technically.
Darkly dreaming Dagon.
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"My name is Lord Tsukyio, I put the Sensual in Consensual."
Haha, now you can add appropriate voice acting.
Love seems to be too broad a word for this, love can be friendship, charity, compassion, general well intention to others, and the romantic and lusty, surely different deities could cover some different aspects of love.
It's almost as broad as "fun".
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What about Erastil?
Real men aren't afraid of commitment. They'll build you a log cabin with their bare hands, build a fire to keep you warm, hunt for food for you and your little ones, and keep you safe from the wild beasts.
That's real.
That's truth.
That's love.
That's a man who truly understands who really wears the trousers and would like to borrow them at weekends.
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they already got rid of the openly misogynistic 'good' deity
What ? Did they get rid of the good god Erastil while I was not looking ?
I actually enjoy having a Good deity that does not conform 100% to modern political correctness.
It seems that Good can be quite okay with violence and murder, but as soon as a deity shows some prejudice (and especially those having to do with sexuality), then surely it cannot be Good.
It reminds me of the common US bias that censors sexual topics with a far heavier hand than violence.
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Priest of the War God: "Who will ride with me, to purge the unclean, to wash away the heathen in a tide of red-blooded slaughter!?!" <frothing>
Players: "Yea! Let's hear it for the LG God of smashing things with extreme prejudice! Where can our paladins sign up?"
Priest of Erastil: "I'm hosting a fundraiser, to support the needy families of the town, so that the menfolk are not forced to travel abroad to find work. I'm calling it 'Families Need Fathers'."
Players: <sharp intake of breath> "You...MONSTER!"
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If mythic seltiyel ever took the divine source ability i'm pretty sure this would be his portfolio.
I thought I was straight until i saw that book.
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And he has that tragic and soulful backstory that's essential to all Gary Stus.
On a more serious note, a somewhat related question that I'm not sure merits it's own thread - What the actual, metaphysical difference between a "true god" and a hugely powerful empyreal lord who can hand out spells to his followers? I mean, meaningful in-setting difference, rather than "a true god has more domains.
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And he has that tragic and soulful backstory that's essential to all Gary Stus.
On a more serious note, a somewhat related question that I'm not sure merits it's own thread - What the actual, metaphysical difference between a "true god" and a hugely powerful empyreal lord who can hand out spells to his followers? I mean, meaningful in-setting difference, rather than "a true god has more domains.
Lots, and lots of power. They are separated that way for gaming purposes but actual in game to people and your characters, theirs not really a difference unless the characters get high enough level/mythic/power that they can start competing with the demi gods.
Cayden is the God Of Masculine Love. At the very least the God of Beer Goggles Love. :p I mean, with Cayden improbable to impossible love can happen!
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Now, myself, I'd give that honor to Lord Tsukyio of teh Dragon Empires. I mean, his basic raison d'etre is being a perfect consort. Plus, a a moon/night deity, he's bound to have all that dark, brooding and soulful nature that's so attractive.
"My name is Lord Tsukyio, I put the Sensual in Consensual."I absolutely support Tsukiyo being bishounen as @#$%. And gaining more traction in the Inner Sea region, because man, that is an awesome god.
Honestly, if he ever gets art, I'd actually strongly recommend either getting Carolina Eade to do it or someone outside the usual artist pool that does that kind over-the-top bishounen artwork just to sell it completely.