Hamatula strike

[septimus77]

Hamatula strike

1. If a person used a rope dart or kyoketsu shoge to attack at range, could they use hamatula strike to grapple them and pull them close to you.

Grapple wrote:

As a standard action, you can attempt to grapple a foe, hindering his combat options. If you do not have Improved Grapple, grab, or a similar ability, attempting to grapple a foe provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of your maneuver. Humanoid creatures without two free hands attempting to grapple a foe take a –4 penalty on the combat maneuver roll. If successful, both you and the target gain the grappled condition. If you successfully grapple a creature that is not adjacent to you, move that creature to an adjacent open space (if no space is available, your grapple fails).

Would it be like Scorpion's attack from Mortal Kombat?

2. If a monk had a way to do piercing damage with his unarmed strikes like from Snake style or Hamatulatsu could a monk grapple with the last attack of a flurry of blows, using hamatula strike and then next turn maintain grapple then attack with another body part that's not impaling the target. (example: impale with left hand and attack with right hand) Would this attack need to make a grapple check/have -4 to damage?

[Nicos]

1) By a strict reading of teh RAW yes, it woudl be like scorpion from mortal combat.

2) yes, he can grapple with the last attack of his flurry but his suffers the penalty for it (the itterative penalty to attacks). Maintaining the grapple is a standar action (unlessgreater grapple) and afther you succes in the ge grapple check you could do your unarmed strike daamge.

If you have greater grapple you can do damage twice, if you have rapid grapple you can do damage three times.

[udalrich]

It looks like the feat is missing the requirement that you use a melee weapon. As written, it appears that I can shoot you from 300 feet away with a long bow (arrows do piercing damage), and then somehow pull you right next to me.

[SwiftyKun]

I was unaware one could grapple with a weapon. Can they? I was always under the impression this was a "hands on" activity.

[Xaratherus]

By RAW, I believe you are correct on how this would work.

By RAI and 'common sense', I doubt that was the intention.

The overall picture from Hamatula Strike is using a piercing weapon to impale an enemy and keep him from moving around; for example, you run him through completely with a spear and then keep him from pulling himself free, effectively 'grappling' him.

[Davick]

Remember to take -4 for not having free hands.

[Smitty.The.Smith]

Davick wrote:

Remember to take -4 for not having free hands.

Sorry for the necro, but I don't think there is an additional -4 for not having free hands I think the -4 mentioned in Hamatula Strike is that -4. This is of course speculation. IMHO the RAW is not clear.