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Ancient Time Dragon p. 71

CMD: Computed: 55 Stat Block: 57
10 +27 BAB +14 StrModUsed +0 DexMod +4 SizeMod

Although it isn't strictly a rules violation, it's the first time I can recall seeing this. This form does not have the Great Cleave feat, whereas the Adult form did. Usually the elder forms seem to be built up from the younger ones, but this one seems different.

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Young Void Dragon p. 72

Skill Over HD Max:Fly: Computed: 12 HD: 10
Skill:Survival: Computed: 1 Stat Block: 8

ran out of skill points
Skill Points Exceeded : -8
Skills Ranks: 90 = 0 class skills +90 race skills
Total Ranks Used 98
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Acrobatics +12 = +10 ranks, +2 Dex
Bluff +16 = +10 ranks, +3 Cha, +3 class skill
Diplomacy +13 = +7 ranks, +3 Cha, +3 class skill
Fly +19 = +12 ranks, +2 Dex, +3 class skill -2 Large +4 good
Intimidate +16 = +10 ranks, +3 Cha, +3 class skill
Knowledge (arcana) +13 = +7 ranks, +3 Int, +3 class skill
Knowledge (planes) +13 = +7 ranks, +3 Int, +3 class skill
Perception +14 = +10 ranks, +1 Wis, +3 class skill
Sense Motive +14 = +10 ranks, +1 Wis, +3 class skill
Spellcraft +11 = +5 ranks, +3 Int, +3 class skill
Stealth +11 = +10 ranks, +2 Dex, +3 class skill -4 Large
Survival +1 = +0 ranks, +1 Wis

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Adult Void Dragon p. 72

are they using this to ignore size penalty for fly?
"Agile (Ex) Void dragons have good aerial maneuverability
regardless of their age or size."

Skill Points Exceeded : -4
Skills Ranks: 176 = 0 class skills +176 race skills
Total Ranks Used 180
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Acrobatics +17 = +16 ranks, +1 Dex
Bluff +24 = +16 ranks, +5 Cha, +3 class skill
Diplomacy +18 = +10 ranks, +5 Cha, +3 class skill
Fly +20 = +16 ranks, +1 Dex, +3 class skill -4 Huge +4 good
Intimidate +22 = +14 ranks, +5 Cha, +3 class skill
Knowledge (arcana) +24 = +16 ranks, +5 Int, +3 class skill
Knowledge (planes) +24 = +16 ranks, +5 Int, +3 class skill
Perception +22 = +16 ranks, +3 Wis, +3 class skill
Sense Motive +22 = +16 ranks, +3 Wis, +3 class skill
Spellcraft +20 = +12 ranks, +5 Int, +3 class skill
Stealth +12 = +16 ranks, +1 Dex, +3 class skill -8 Huge
Survival +14 = +8 ranks, +3 Wis, +3 class skill
Use Magic Device +16 = +8 ranks, +5 Cha, +3 class skill

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Young Vortex Dragon p. 74

Ref: Computed: 9 Stat Block: 8
+0 ClassMod +7 RaceMod +2 DexMod

Will: Computed: 9 Stat Block: 10
+0 ClassMod +7 RaceMod +2WisMod

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I find it inconsistent that the Vortex and Solar dragon are Immune fire and vulnerable cold, while the lunar, time and void dragons are simply immune to cold (no complimentary vulnerability). There was a legacy carry-over from 3.5e that said creatures immune to one energy type are vulnerable to it's opposite. SKR indicated that he intended to see that removed via errata. It's unclear if the vulnerabilities of these dragons are deliberately included, or a legacy bit of code that didn't get fixed.


According to the lycanthrope entry in bestiary 1:
Size and Type: The creature (referred to hereafter as the base creature) gains the shapechanger subtype. The lycanthrope takes on the characteristics of some type of animal (referred to hereafter as the base animal) within one size category of the base creature’s size. A lycanthrope’s hybrid form is the same size as the base animal or the base creature, whichever is larger.

If this is still true, then the sizes of the Werebat pg. 188, Werecrocodile pg. 189, Wereshark pg. 190 in hybrid form are wrong. They should be large, not medium according to the previous text. Also, if this is true, then all the corresponding numbers in the stat blocks should be adjusted to the new size modifiers.

This is also true of the bestiary 2 entries of the lycantropes based on large creatures.

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chopswil wrote:
I find it inconsistent that the Vortex and Solar dragon are Immune fire and vulnerable cold, while the lunar, time and void dragons are simply immune to cold (no complimentary vulnerability). There was a legacy carry-over from 3.5e that said creatures immune to one energy type are vulnerable to it's opposite. SKR indicated that he intended to see that removed via errata. It's unclear if the vulnerabilities of these dragons are deliberately included, or a legacy bit of code that didn't get fixed.

The solar and vortex dragons have the (fire) subtype, which automatically gives them immunity to fire and vulnerability to cold.

The lunar, time, and void dragons do not have the (cold) or (fire) subtype, therefore they do not automatically get vulnerability to the opposing energy type.

In other words, there is a difference between "this creature has immunity to fire as a special ability" and "this creature has the fire subtype, which gives it immunity to fire as a special ability as well as vulnerability to cold."

In other words, this is not an inconsistency in the outer dragons in this book.

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p. 35 Flesh Colossus - shouldn't the price be 130K, not 120K? With the total cost of 70K, minus the 10K material cost, gets 60K, which is doubled to 120K for enchantment and then add back in the material cost of 10K to get 130K?

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p. 90 Korada - not sure if this is errata, but why is his ki pool both epic and mythic in addition to good, adamantine, magic and lawful?

There's DR/epic, but I'm not aware of DR/mythic which would need a separate mythic quality to attacks.

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p. 94 Erkling - His attack with his bow should be keen from his ironwood mastery, and therefore have a crit range of 19-20. Also, the attack name should be +3 cold iron keen longbow, similar to how his melee attack is a +3 cold iron keen longsword.

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chopswil wrote:

Gholdako p. 125

pedantic formatting: extra space before period in description "gruesome and untimely end for most would-be ."

It's actually not an extra space but a missing word. The sentence should be "...for most would-be _____" somethings. Would-be is an adjective but there's no noun it's modifying.

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p. 148 Hamadryad - she has the Mounted Combat feat, but there's no mention of her having a mount in the description or organization (unless she rides one of the centaurs I guess). Not that she can't have this feat, but if so, is there a typical mount she normally has which should be either in the descriptive text, organization, or even treasure?

Also, Languages lists tongues but that is not listed as a constant spell-like ability. Where is that coming from?

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p. 153 Hyakume - Since the point of the eye probe is to spy on creatures and other areas, and it can be attacked, what is the size (Fine I'm guessing), and what is the Stealth bonus for the eyes, or the DC to spot them with Perception?

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p. 158 Irminsul - it has the Quicken Spell-like Ability feat for telekinesis so under it's spell like abilities entry, it should have 3/day quickened telekinesis.

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p. 160 Jack-O'-Lantern - it's listed as a plant type creature, but has the icon for monstrous humanoid.

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p. 164 Julunggali - has the Weapon Focus (gore) feat, but doesn't have a gore attack. I assume it should be Weapon Focus (slam) instead.

Also, under defensive abilities, it lists mythic saving throws, but that's not listed in the universal monster abilities (p.296).

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p. 175 Kitsune - isn't the weapon attack always primary, so the attack bonuses should be mwk quarterstaff +0, bite -6?

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p. 176 Kyton, Ostiarius - should his regeneration also be suppressed by silver, per the kyton subtype, p. 307?

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p. 194 Mindslaver Mold - for the Avoidance ability, what is the Reflex saving throw DC it needs to make to avoid the damage? Is it a static DC or is it equal to the attack roll or something?

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p. 200 Necrocraft - It seems like a whole table is missing that describes how to create one of these. In addition to the table that tells what their HD, CP CR and number of undead required are, what would it's ability scores be, base attacks (since CPs can be spent to grant extra attacks, I assume it starts with at least one), natural armor, etc.

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p. 202 Nependis - small typo in Roar ability - "...all other creatures other..." the second "other" should be removed.

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p. 208 Oceanid - For the Waveglide ability - since it can be used on vessels like ships, how to they make the DC 19 Will saving throw? Does the captain make it, the navigator, the person on the ship with the highest will save, or should the captain or navigator make a Profession (sailor) check instead (possibly at a higher DC since skill checks are easier than saving throws).

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Flea, Mammoth p. 99

Melee Attack Bonus-Bite: Computed: 3 Stat Block: 4
3 BAB +1 AbilityBonus -1 SizeMod

CMB: Computed: 5 Stat Block: +6
3 BAB +1 SizeMod +1 AbilityMod

Skill:Acrobatics: Computed: 3 Stat Block: 0

Total Ranks Used 0
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Acrobatics +3 = +0 ranks, +3 Dex

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Flea, Giant p. 99

stat block order: SQ in wrong spot should be after Skills not in Ecology block

Skill:Acrobatics: Computed: 2 Stat Block: 0

Total Ranks Used 0
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Acrobatics +2 = +0 ranks, +2 Dex

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Aoandon p. 11

incorporeal gives the use of Dex mod to melee attacks so why does it have Weapon Finesse?

also, I believe the touch is being treated as a secondary natural attack. I calculate +24 for a primary.

Given the CR of 12 I don't see why you have to pull punches

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Fleshwarp, Irnakurse p. 105

odd melee text with "14" just sitting there
"Melee bite +8 14 (1d8+7) "

a friend of mine has a theory on this:
"It's worse than just a strange "14" in the middle of nowhere. I think the intended line is:
Bite +8 (1d8+3), 4 tentacles +14 (1d6+7 plus mind lash)
Why, you ask? My reasoning:
This guy's primary attacks should be +13 (7 BAB +7 StrMod -1 SizeMod). His secondary attacks ought to be +8. Since he has Weapon Focus (Tentacles), it ought to be either +9 or +14. It is neither. I find it most likely that the tentacles ought to be primary weapons because they can rend, have the mind lash power on them, and have weapon focus. Pretty lousy choice for a secondary attack.
However, the only things we can say for certain is that the "14" doesn't belong there, the tentacle isn't adjusting for its Weapon Focus, and the bite is doing damage as if it is primary, even though it appears to have a secondary to-hit penalty."

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Formian Myrmarch p. 109

all saves off by 2, example
Fort: Computed: 9 Stat Block: 11
+0 ClassMod +4 RaceMod +5 AbilityMod

all ACs off by 2
+2 deflection comes from where?

AC Value: Computed: 25 (+4 Dex, +1 dodge, +11 natural, -1 size) Stat
Block: 27
AC = 10 +0 Armor +0 Shield +4 Dex Used +11 Other Bonuses +0 Rage
Other Bonuses = +11 Natural +1 Dodge -1 SizeMod

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Formian Queen p. 110

Init Mod: Computed: 1 Stat Block: +6
+-3 Dex Mod +4 Improved Initiative

Melee Attack Bonus-Claw: Computed: 21 Stat Block: 33
24 BAB +-2 AbilityBonus +-1 SizeMod

SLA DC-feeblemind: Computed: 22 Stat Block: 21
10 +5 Spell.SLA_Level +7 AbilityBonus

CMB: Computed: 23 Stat Block: +35
24 BAB +1 SizeMod +-2 AbilityMod

CMD: Computed: 30 Stat Block: 42
10 +24 BAB +-2 StrModUsed +-3 DexMod +1 SizeMod

Skill Points Unused : 2
Skills Ranks: 192 = 0 class skills +192 race skills
Total Ranks Used 190
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Diplomacy +31 = +24 ranks, +7 Cha
Intimidate +34 = +24 ranks, +7 Cha, +3 class skill
Knowledge (arcana) +28 = +24 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (nature) +28 = +24 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (dungeoneering) +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (engineering) +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (geography) +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (local) +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (planes) +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int
Perception +35 = +24 ranks, +4 Wis, +3 class skill +2 Alertness +2
Alertness 10 ranks
Sense Motive +12 = +6 ranks, +4 Wis +2 Alertness
Spellcraft +28 = +24 ranks, +4 Int

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Formian Taskmaster p. 111

CMD: Computed: 25 Stat Block: 26 10
+10 BAB +3 StrModUsed +2 DexMod +0 SizeMod

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Formian Worker p. 113

I suspect that it has been given knowledge (engineering) and profession (miner) as class skills (being that this is the creature's role), but it hasn't been indicated at any point.

Skill Over HD Max:Knowledge (engineering): Computed: 4 HD: 1

Skill:Perception: Computed: 0 Stat Block: 4
Skill:Profession [miner]: Computed: 3 Stat Block: 7

Skill Points Exceeded : -1
Skills Ranks: 4 = 0 class skills +4 race skills
Total Ranks Used 5
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Climb +5 = +1 ranks, +1 Str, +3 class skill
Knowledge (engineering) +4 = +4 ranks, +0 Int
Perception +0 = +0 ranks, +0 Wis
Profession (miner) +3 = +0 ranks, +0 Wis +3 SkillFocus

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p. 225 Rat King - bold "Defensive Abilities" should be "Immune"

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p. 229 Saguaroi - does Needle hide ability affect creatures that attack with a manufactured weapon? It first says "Any creature attacking with a natural attack or unarmed strike takes 1d4 points of piercing damage" and then in parentheses says "manufactured weapons with the reach special feature do not endanger the user this way". How would reach matter if manufactured weapons don't trigger the damage in the first place. Either they should be listed in what triggers this defense, or the comment about reach not doing so should be removed.

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p. 247 Snallygaster - Is the bite normally a x3 critical multiplier (normally there's a special ability that monsters have to make their critical multiplier higher like this). If so, then shouldn't the Aerial Charge ability be for double damage or quadruple on a critical hit, since the bite already does triple damage on a critical hit all the time? Alternatively, the bit should have a normal critical multiplier of x2, and only is x3 on a aerial charge.

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p. 267 Udaeus - shortspear attack bonus should be +8 (+3 BAB, +3 Str, +1 magic, and +1 weapon focus)

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p. 285 Ypotryll - space is listed as 10 and reach is listed as 15 (15 with tail slap). For a Huge quadruped, it's size should be 15 and its space should be 10 and that makes the 15 feet with tail actually different from the base.

Also, in the descriptive text, there's a typo: "can rip apart a drawbridge or even the crash through a keep's walls"

"The" should be removed.

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Fossegrim p. 114

CMD: Computed: 18 Stat Block: 17
10 +4 BAB +0 StrModUsed +3 DexMod +0 SizeMod +1 DodgeBonus

hp line is not correct/consistent.
Having ConMod +2 and 9HD, it ought to be
hp 49 (9d6+18)
I have no idea how they can derive the block they show, nor how the block they show could come out to only 41 hp.

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Freezing Flow p. 115

Init Mod: Computed: 3 Stat Block: -5
+3 Dex Mod

Ref: Computed: 4 Stat Block: 3
+0 ClassMod +1 RaceMod +3 DexMod

CMD: Computed: 21 Stat Block: 13
10 +3 BAB +4 StrModUsed +3 DexMod +1 SizeMod

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Gaki p. 118

hp line is odd. I call it
hp 76 (9d8+36)

Fort: Computed: 7 Stat Block: 5
+0 ClassMod +3 RaceMod +4 AbilityMod

i know there are no ranks
Missing Skill: Fly, has fly speed. Could be 2 Fly +2 = +0 ranks, +2 Dex
+0 Medium +0 average

Skill Points Unused : 2
Skills Ranks: 27 = 0 class skills +27 race skills
Total Ranks Used 25
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Intimidate +14 = +7 ranks, +4 Cha, +3 class skill
Perception +13 = +9 ranks, +1 Wis, +3 class skill
Stealth +14 = +9 ranks, +2 Dex, +3 class skill +0 Medium

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Gearghost p. 123

shouldn't flat-footed AC be 15?
take the +3 Dex from 18

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Giant, Ocean p. 127

SLA DC-vortex: Computed: 21 Stat Block: 20
10 +7 Spell.SLA_Level +4 AbilityBonus

Skill:Swim: Computed: 23 Stat Block: 24

Skills Ranks: 57 = 0 class skills +57 race skills
Total Ranks Used 57
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Intimidate +17 = +10 ranks, +4 Cha, +3 class skill
Knowledge (nature) +11 = +10 ranks, +1 Int
Perception +24 = +19 ranks, +2 Wis, +3 class skill
Perform (wind) +13 = +9 ranks, +4 Cha
Survival +14 = +9 ranks, +2 Wis, +3 class skill
Swim +23 = +0 ranks, +15 Str +8 swim speed

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Giant, Cliff p. 126

the damage for a hurled rock is supposed to be 1.5xStrMod. This lists only 1xStrMod

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Giant, River p. 128

the damage for a hurled rock is supposed to be 1.5xStrMod. This lists only 1xStrMod

Feat Pre Req: Improved Bull Rush is missing prereq feat Power Attack

leather is only AC 2 not 3
AC Value: Computed: 18 (+2 armor, +7 natural, -1 size) Stat Block: 19
AC = 10 +2 Armor +0 Shield +0 Dex Used +6 Other Bonuses +0 Rage
Other Bonuses = +7 Natural +-1 SizeMod

Skill:Swim: Computed: 9 Stat Block: 10

Skills Ranks: 8 = 0 class skills +8 race skills
Total Ranks Used 8
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Acrobatics +0 = +0 ranks, +0 Dex
Perception +6 = +3 ranks, +0 Wis, +3 class skill
Profession (sailor) +9 = +2 ranks, +0 Wis, +3 class skill +4 racial mod
Survival +6 = +3 ranks, +0 Wis, +3 class skill
Swim +9 = +0 ranks, +5 Str +4 racial mod

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Giant, Slag p. 129

the damage for a hurled rock is supposed to be 1.5xStrMod. This lists only 1xStrMod

CMD: Computed: 27 Stat Block: 29
10 +7 BAB +8 StrModUsed +1 DexMod +1 SizeMod

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Gremlin, Haniver p. 143

Skill:Swim: Computed: 9 Stat Block: 11

Skill Points Unused : 1
Skills Ranks: 5 = 0 class skills +5 race skills
Dex used for tiny or smaller in skill-Swim
Total Ranks Used 4
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Disable Device +3 = +0 ranks, +1 Dex +2 racial mod
Disguise +5 = +1 ranks, +1 Cha, +3 class skill
Fly +5 = +0 ranks, +1 Dex +4 Tiny +0 average
Perception +4 = +1 ranks, +0 Wis, +3 class skill
Sleight of Hand +7 = +1 ranks, +1 Dex, +3 class skill +2 racial mod
Stealth +13 = +1 ranks, +1 Dex, +3 class skill +8 Tiny
Swim +9 = +0 ranks, +1 Dex +8 swim speed

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Hamadryad p. 148

The hp line is off. I make it
hp 210 (20d6 + 140)
20(HD)*6(ConMod)+20(Toughness)

The bow is in error. It has a Strength rating of +5, yet she has only a +1 StrMod. This ought to apply a -2 on to-hit, but it is not. Also, has a +7 on ranged damage. I make it +3 (+1StrMod +2 Magic)

Fort: Computed: 14 Stat Block: 12
+0 ClassMod +6 RaceMod +6 AbilityMod +2 Great Fortitude

Melee Attack Damage-mwk dagger: Computed: 1d4+1 Stat Block: 1d4+5
+1 Str Bonus Used

Melee Attack Bonus-mwk dagger: Computed: 17 Stat Block: 16
10 BAB +6 AbilityBonus +0 SizeMod +1 masterwork

Skill Points Unused : 4
Skills Ranks: 200 = 0 class skills +200 race skills
Total Ranks Used 196
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Bluff +29 = +20 ranks, +6 Cha, +3 class skill
Climb +14 = +10 ranks, +1 Str, +3 class skill
Craft (wood) +12 = +0 ranks, +4 Int +8 racial mod
Diplomacy +29 = +20 ranks, +6 Cha, +3 class skill
Escape Artist +19 = +8 ranks, +6 Dex, +3 class skill +2 Stealthy
Handle Animal +16 = +10 ranks, +6 Cha
Heal +9 = +5 ranks, +4 Wis
Intimidate +16 = +10 ranks, +6 Cha
Knowledge (geography) +17 = +10 ranks, +4 Int, +3 class skill
Knowledge (nature) +27 = +20 ranks, +4 Int, +3 class skill
Knowledge (nobility) +9 = +5 ranks, +4 Int
Perception +31 = +20 ranks, +4 Wis, +3 class skill +2 Alertness +2
Alertness 10 ranks
Perform (any one) +19 = +10 ranks, +6 Cha, +3 class skill
Ride +16 = +10 ranks, +6 Dex
Sense Motive +19 = +10 ranks, +4 Wis, +3 class skill +2 Alertness
Spellcraft +14 = +10 ranks, +4 Int
Stealth +19 = +8 ranks, +6 Dex, +3 class skill +2 Stealthy +0 Medium
Survival +14 = +10 ranks, +4 Wis

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Harionago p. 149

SLA DC-charm monster: Computed: 20 Stat Block: 19
10 +4 Spell.SLA_Level +6 AbilityBonus

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Hyakume p. 153

Skill Points Unused : 11
Skills Ranks: 152 = 0 class skills +152 race skills
Total Ranks Used 141
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Acrobatics +23 = +12 ranks, +8 Dex, +3 class skill
Bluff +21 = +12 ranks, +9 Cha
Craft (any) +10 = +6 ranks, +4 Int
Diplomacy +17 = +8 ranks, +9 Cha
Intimidate +24 = +12 ranks, +9 Cha, +3 class skill
Perception +19 = +10 ranks, +6 Wis, +3 class skill
Sense Motive +17 = +8 ranks, +6 Wis +3 SkillFocus
Spellcraft +22 = +15 ranks, +4 Int, +3 class skill
Stealth +15 = +8 ranks, +8 Dex, +3 class skill -4 Large
Survival +17 = +8 ranks, +6 Wis, +3 class skill
Swim +8 = +1 ranks, +4 Str, +3 class skill
Use Magic Device +17 = +8 ranks, +9 Cha
Knowledge (geography) +10 = +3 ranks, +4 Int, +3 class skill
Knowledge (history) +10 = +6 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (arcana) +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (planes) +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int
Knowledge (religion) +12 = +8 ranks, +4 Int

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Immortal Ichor p. 156

+28 profane AC mod from where? usually some SA for this

forgot the base 10 to AC
AC Math: Computed: 42 Stat Block: 32
10 +1 dodge +3 Dex +28 profane

SLA DC-charm person: Computed: 16 Stat Block: 18
10 +1 Spell.SLA_Level +5 AbilityBonus

SLA DC-charm person: Computed: 16 Stat Block: 18
10 +1 Spell.SLA_Level +5 AbilityBonus

profane ac mod applies to CMD
CMD: Computed: 62 Stat Block: 34
10 +15 BAB +5 StrModUsed +3 DexMod +0 SizeMod +1 DodgeBonus +28 ACBonus

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PLATYPUS p. 96

missing will save value
from animal archive it should be +1

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Kaiju, Mogaru p. 170

CMD: Computed: 77 Stat Block: 79
10 +34 BAB +20 StrModUsed +5 DexMod +8 SizeMod

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