You'd have to be crazy to question stop and frisk...


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Cop questions stop and frisks, gets abuses on tape, gets sent to the psych ward in retaliation.

After voicing his concerns, Schoolcraft was reportedly harassed and reassigned to a desk job. After he left work early one day, an emergency unit entered his apartment, and eventually admitted him to a psychiatric facility, where he was held against his will for six days.

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What the hell? When did russia jokes start to apply to new york city?

The report also says: "He expressed questionable paranoid ideas of conspiracy and cover-ups going [on] in the precinct. Since then, he started collecting 'evidence' to 'prove his point' and became suspicious 'They are after him.'"[15]

Can you still be paranoid if they are out to get you?

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Gotta stay on the right side of the blue wall. Let guys like this run amok and it falls down.


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Didn't the authoritarian statists tell us that the only way to be safe was to surrender our rights?

I don't think that slavery equals freedom, but I'm a crazy minarchist.

*shrug*


Bitter Thorn wrote:

Didn't the authoritarian statists tell us that the only way to be safe was to surrender our rights?

I don't think that slavery equals freedom, but I'm a crazy minarchist.

*shrug*

Ah, see, you're looking at it from the wrong perspective.

You can be safe and free if you're the one enslaving *everyone else*.

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Matt Thomason wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

Didn't the authoritarian statists tell us that the only way to be safe was to surrender our rights?

I don't think that slavery equals freedom, but I'm a crazy minarchist.

*shrug*

Ah, see, you're looking at it from the wrong perspective.

You can be safe and free if you're the one enslaving *everyone else*.

For those classics fans out there,

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


Bitter Thorn wrote:

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

That guy with no face that has a thing for the girlscouts...

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

That guy with no face that has a thing for the girlscouts...

Or maybe this dude?


Right in My hometown. I'm so proud. Not.

That said, not surprised. The nypd has been fighting the public on stop and frisk for a while.


This is also what passes for mental health care. Sad.

"Health care" as a weapon of the state seems like a bad direction to me. Using the mental health system to punish political enemies seems like a bad idea to me. I hope he is suing the doctor and the medical facility too.


A similar thing happened to one Gustl Mollath in Germany.

Sovereign Court

Schoolcraft story on This American Life from back in 2010. The clips from the tapes are definitely a WTF moment.


Didn't he learn anything from watching Serpico?


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Bitter Thorn wrote:

This is also what passes for mental health care. Sad.

"Health care" as a weapon of the state seems like a bad direction to me. Using the mental health system to punish political enemies seems like a bad idea to me. I hope he is suing the doctor and the medical facility too.

Hey! People who reject perfectly reasonable politics are clearly mentally ill and need help! Also, isolating such deranged individuals from others to avoid their insanity making other questioning perfectly reasonable politics is beneficial to everyone.


Drejk wrote:
Bitter Thorn wrote:

This is also what passes for mental health care. Sad.

"Health care" as a weapon of the state seems like a bad direction to me. Using the mental health system to punish political enemies seems like a bad idea to me. I hope he is suing the doctor and the medical facility too.

Hey! People who reject perfectly reasonable politics are clearly mentally ill and need help! Also, isolating such deranged individuals from others to avoid their insanity making other questioning perfectly reasonable politics is beneficial to everyone.

Very well put.

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This is part of why so many fear "mental health checks" to get guns. it will be turned into a weapon to remove rights more often than do good


Andrew R wrote:
This is part of why so many fear "mental health checks" to get guns. it will be turned into a weapon to remove rights more often than do good

Just remember that a stronger commitment to mental health treatment was the NRA's answer to suggestions for gun control. It's a canard, a distraction, and not helping because the people afraid the government are going to take their guns away are doubly afraid they'll be thrown in a padded cell for wanting guns to begin with.


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meatrace wrote:
Andrew R wrote:
This is part of why so many fear "mental health checks" to get guns. it will be turned into a weapon to remove rights more often than do good
Just remember that a stronger commitment to mental health treatment was the NRA's answer to suggestions for gun control. It's a canard, a distraction, and not helping because the people afraid the government are going to take their guns away are doubly afraid they'll be thrown in a padded cell for wanting guns to begin with.

And it really cheeses me off when reality makes those people right....


There are a lot of people who I really, really don't want to have access to firearms of any sort. An anger evaluation and check for developmental delay/issues would be a good idea.


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Freehold DM wrote:
There are a lot of people who I really, really don't want to have access to firearms of any sort. An anger evaluation and check for developmental delay/issues would be a good idea.

You can't take away someone's rights with a non governmental agency: especially with something as subjective as a psyche eval.


Drejk wrote:
Hey! People who reject perfectly reasonable politics are clearly mentally ill and need help! Also, isolating such deranged individuals from others to avoid their insanity making other questioning perfectly reasonable politics is beneficial to everyone.

Baby Drejk!

How did you get out of the asylum?

Come on now, you don't want to miss tea, do you? We'll warm up the samovar, play some whist and you can tell me all about your "friends" on Paizo...

[Motions to white jacketed orderlies]


Nooo! I won't come back!!!

Will there be cookies with the tea?


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
There are a lot of people who I really, really don't want to have access to firearms of any sort. An anger evaluation and check for developmental delay/issues would be a good idea.
You can't take away someone's rights with a non governmental agency: especially with something as subjective as a psyche eval.

we're just going to have to disagree here, I guess.


Drejk wrote:

Nooo! I won't come back!!!

Will there be cookies with the tea?

Cookies, mazurek cake, kogel mogel, we got all that good shiznit.


Freehold DM wrote:


we're just going to have to disagree here, I guess.

Considering that we have a different thread about a certain police department using 'mental evaluation' as a political bludgeon to silence dissent, I'd be worried about the almost certain abuse that will happen.


Violent government intervention might not be your friend. See "Bride of government folly". :)


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