How to protect vampires from the sun.


Rules Questions


Would a spells like darkness, deeper darkness or Lunar Veil protect vampires from sunlight?

What about illusions like minor/major image or mirage arcana?


Absolutely. Darkness and deeper darkness can create an area of darkness even in direct sunlight. http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/additionalRules.html#vision-and-light That might also help. :)

However, illusions will not. The illusions only fool a creature's vision, it doesn't stop the light from hitting the caster in the first place.


Darkness cast out in the open on a sunny day will create an area of normal light. Although should suffice to protect a vampire.


There is a cantrip called Penumbra . Although it's not legal for Pathfinder Society;

pfsrd wrote:
...not legal in Pathfinder Society play. Note that penumbra was changed into the higher-level spell protective penumbra. The cantrip version is similar, but does not replace its higher-level counterpart.


http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/protective-penumbra

Get it enchanted on a cloak. Done and done.


Wow, okay that solves that problem nicely. A dispel magic on the item would really suck for a vamp out in the sun but hey it is dominated so has little choice in the matter.

This a lot easier then trying to protect a whole area.

Thanks guys.


I've always been a fan of the full body suit and mask style. Can also add an extra level of creepy if done right. Since none of the vampire's body is exposed to the light then sunlight won't burn them up. It would suck if someone decided to start tearing chunks of the clothing off though.


Have an alchemist design a salve that will protect you from sunlight. Then, you just slather it all over your body and wear a pair of sunglasses to protect your eyes.


Harark wrote:
I've always been a fan of the full body suit and mask style. Can also add an extra level of creepy if done right. Since none of the vampire's body is exposed to the light then sunlight won't burn them up. It would suck if someone decided to start tearing chunks of the clothing off though.

Um, how does the vampire see?

Grand Lodge

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smoked lenses?

More seriously, extra bonus style points if you enchant protective penumbra onto a parasol.

Silver Crusade

Don't Vampires sleep during the day?


Nothing actually forces them to sleep but they need their coffin nearby if they are reduced to 0 HP.

Usually they do sleep but I think it is more to recharge their mental batteries then a need.


I want to make it a parasol that floats over you and does not need a hand to use. Maybe add unseen servant to the requirements to make it and price for slotless.


Speaker for the Dead wrote:
There is a cantrip called Penumbra . Although it's not legal for Pathfinder Society;
pfsrd wrote:
...not legal in Pathfinder Society play. Note that penumbra was changed into the higher-level spell protective penumbra. The cantrip version is similar, but does not replace its higher-level counterpart.

The cantrip doesn't protect against a vampire's vulnerability to sunlight, it just protects against stuff like a drow's light blindness. Protection against a vampire's vulnerability was the change explicitly added in the 2nd level version of protective penumbra.


You are right, But I would use the second level version.


Illusions might work. You wouldn't be able to see an illusion unless it either produced its own light or reflected normally available light.

Shadow illusions would definitely work, as they create quasi-real items that definitely would block sunlight. Phantasms and Patterns would definitely not work, as they create sensations only in the minds of their targets.

Figments and Glamers, however, are less clear-cut. They change the sensory qualities of an object. Whether or not the shadows cast by an illusion are part of the illusion or illusions can actually block light isn't clear.

When illusions are revealed to be false they don't disappear (patterns and phantasms are reduced to outlines, as they affect the mind); you just recognize them for what they are, a false image. Standing in the middle of an illusion doesn't let you see out of it (or through it), even if you know it's false.

Personally I'd rule that shadows, figments and glamers can block light. Otherwise they'd generally be far too easy to discern (I can see that torch behind it!). The majority of illusions would be inadequate for a vampire to hide from the sun for long (limited duration or area of effect).

I do wonder about Invisibility, however. An invisible vampire isn't casting a shadow. Now, that's not the same as to say the light isn't touching him, any less than an incorporeal creature could be coterminous with him and still have an effect. So sunlight passing through is invisible body could still burn him, YMMV.

Invisibility does offer that invisible light sources still give off light. This is a case of a glamer specifically NOT blocking light, but the whole point of Invisibility is that it's supposed to not block light at all.


Very nice Helic, I like it. Invisibility will not work but they can hide under and illusionary wall. That seams about right to me.

Grand Lodge

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Mathius wrote:

Would a spells like darkness, deeper darkness or Lunar Veil protect vampires from sunlight?

What about illusions like minor/major image or mirage arcana?

That's small scale. Take the approach that the Vampires of Grendel went for.... put out the Sun itself!

Silver Crusade

I'm shocked no one mentioned Malack from The Order of the Stick. He was a Vampire Cleric (3.5) who had researched a new spell, Protection from Daylight.

Here is Malack using the spell on his new vampire chylde

Here is Malack turning to dust when the spell is Dispelled while he is daylight


Magda Luckbender wrote:

I'm shocked no one mentioned Malack from The Order of the Stick. He was a Vampire Cleric (3.5) who had researched a new spell, Protection from Daylight.

Here is Malack using the spell on his new vampire chylde

Here is Malack turning to dust when the spell is Dispelled while he is daylight

A spell like that already exists, Protective Penumbra:)

Yes, depending on a spell to survive is risky, just like having no nonmagical flight is risky when someone AMFs you and you fall into the lava below.

Silver Crusade

I note that Protective Penumbra has a duration of only 10 minutes/level. That's only a few hours in the sun, not all day. A clever vampire spell caster wants all-day protection. It should probably be a 3rd or 4th level spell.


rat_ bastard wrote:


Um, how does the vampire see?

Sorry, missed this until now. I seem to remember a pair of magic "sunglasses" out of ARG in the Drow section. Use those. Or just some really freaking thick smoked goggles.


Would a vampire be affected by sunlight in their animal or mist forms? If not, couldn't they simply remain in the this form out of combat, as they have indefinite durations? By the way, why do you need this? How often do adventurers actually travel about outside? You guys can just travel at night and you can sleep in a tent during the day, heck, you guys could just stick a coffin in a cart and you can travel in this if you must travel in the day.


At worst it's an occasional inconvenience. I mean, your evil enemies don't usually cast light spells. Would some sort of fire resistance potion work as well?

Sovereign Court

I liked the SPF 1 billion sunblock Stephen Dorf had on in Blade.


FLite wrote:

smoked lenses?

More seriously, extra bonus style points if you enchant protective penumbra onto a parasol.

Did that once, on my vampire swashbuckler. DM was nice enough to rule that I could still get precise strike even with my other hand occupied.

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