Seconding "I'm worried about Snyder, not Affleck".
I didnt see 300 but everybody and their grandmother think its a masterpiece. Sucker punch was junk. With the exceptions of a few castings I really like the watchman. Haven't seen the new superman yet and probably wont until TV.(Nothing against snyder not a superman fan). So Snyder is meh for me.
What is so worrisome about Snyder? Is it that he is seen as a hack or that he wont do Superman/batman justice?
Snyder is a hack. The man's got an incredibly lack of imagination. 300 and Watchmen were one-to-one adaptions of the original material (with gaps in the latter because of that monster of a story). Therefore, Watchmen kinda worked because the novel's great, but the movie was too long. 300 didn't work because the novel's pure unadulterated crap. A good director recognizes such problems and deals with them accordingly. Snyder didn't. Sucker Punch threw all kinds of fantasy tropes together without making sense.
I haven't seen Man of Steel, but I expect it's another mess.
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Can't we just have movies about one particular case, one particular adventure and not have to reestablish the character, his origin, his enemies and allies and everything else every time?
This is what bothered me about the latest Spidey film. That character has 60 years of stories to choose from. Not all of them are good, but there are enough good stories to make more than three films!
So why start over with a re-told origin in only film number four?
This might be in the wrong thread, but I have to say "I've got a bad feeling about this.."
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I was hoping for a Josh Brolin Batman.
I don't like how they handle the Batman franchise at all. Stop killing off major villains, stop retiring Batman every 3 movies and making him "old".
Batman, X-men and other super hero franchises should be like James Bond imo, they should never get old and they should continue having adventures as long as the movies are making money. They have an almost unlimited amount of stories to tell, I really don't like it when they close doors on a franchise that has unlimited potential.
And I don't like Ben Affleck, so it's not a good choice, at least for me.
Ps. I'm glad other people think the same way regarding re-booting these franchises every 3 movies and re-starting.
I haven't seen Man of Steel, but I expect it's another mess.Its decent enough. Maybe worth a movie ticket. Worth the 3d too. But only if its 48fps.
Nothing is worth 3D. Unfortunately, the only theater in my city that shows original language blockbusters only shows them in 3D. Since I only go to the movies when I want to see something like Star Trek or The Avengers (I don't have the money for more), I'm screwed.
The last thing I bought a ticket for was The Dark Knight Rises.
Can't we just have movies about one particular case, one particular adventure and not have to reestablish the character, his origin, his enemies and allies and everything else every time?
This is what bothered me about the latest Spidey film. That character has 60 years of stories to choose from. Not all of them are good, but there are enough good stories to make more than three films!
So why start over with a re-told origin in only film number four?
So they could set up a few things for the sequel, I'd assume.
Different canon than the Raimi movies.
I was hoping for a Josh Brolin Batman.
With Christopher Walken as Robin.
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Okay, going to have to say that I enjoyed Sucker Punch, despite its shortcomings. It certainly wasn't great movie making, but it was a far cry from the worst that I've seen. 300 remains one of my favorite films.
That said, Man of Steel was a great disappointment for me. It was not the Superman I know, the one I grew up with. I don't like the dark nature of the character in the film. I understand that it's supposed to build up to his all-American, red, white, and blue image, but I still don't like it.
As for Batfleck, I'm willing to approach with an open mind. He could be good, or he could bomb. Only time will tell
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Sucker punch is one of the few movies that kept spinning around in my head after I saw it. That in itself gets it an A+ for me, unlike all sorts of braindead movies that are released today. I think that, honestly, most people think Sucker punch is another braindead movie, and don't understand that it's far more complex than that. Even those who try to understand it usually get stuck on the various levels of reality, which isn't really that relevant. As I see it, it is a sharp criticism of gender roles that never got the recognition it deserved. Oh, and, it was cut to oblivion too. At least one of the removed scenes explains quite a lot.
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Seconding "I'm worried about Snyder, not Affleck".
I didnt see 300 but everybody and their grandmother think its a masterpiece. Sucker punch was junk. With the exceptions of a few castings I really like the watchman. Haven't seen the new superman yet and probably wont until TV.(Nothing against snyder not a superman fan). So Snyder is meh for me.
What is so worrisome about Snyder? Is it that he is seen as a hack or that he wont do Superman/batman justice?
Snyder is a hack. The man's got an incredibly lack of imagination. 300 and Watchmen were one-to-one adaptions of the original material (with gaps in the latter because of that monster of a story). Therefore, Watchmen kinda worked because the novel's great, but the movie was too long. 300 didn't work because the novel's pure unadulterated crap. A good director recognizes such problems and deals with them accordingly. Snyder didn't. Sucker Punch threw all kinds of fantasy tropes together without making sense.
I haven't seen Man of Steel, but I expect it's another mess.
I LOVED Watchmen (admittedly I watched it and only then read the comic, which was every bit as good as the movie, maybe I would have enjoyed the movie less had the order of reading/watching been reversed).
Also, couldn't help but like 300 - so many catch phraises coming from a single movie should tell anyone that the movie did SOMETHING right...However, "man of steel" was maybe the worst movie Iv'e ever seen, period. It does a terrible, terrible job at presenting the namesake character, it's so afraid you'll get bored with it that it throws special effects at you every 20 seconds or so (the movie's version of a touching family moment includes a bus-tossing tornado in it, so...) which makes it, surprise surprise, rather boring.
It might have a really good second half, but I suspect I'll never know. I literally fell asleep while watching it.
If the guys behind "batman vs superman" are the same guys behind "man of steel", there's just no way I'll ever watch that movie. The guy playing Batman is not remotely important.
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Sucker punch is one of the few movies that kept spinning around in my head after I saw it. That in itself gets it an A+ for me, unlike all sorts of braindead movies that are released today. I think that, honestly, most people think Sucker punch is another braindead movie, and don't understand that it's far more complex than that. Even those who try to understand it usually get stuck on the various levels of reality, which isn't really that relevant. As I see it, it is a sharp criticism of gender roles that never got the recognition it deserved. Oh, and, it was cut to oblivion too. At least one of the removed scenes explains quite a lot.
Yeah, it doesn't help that the theatrical version was cut to ribbons.
It's a film that's enjoyable on quite a few levels. There's the gender role criticism that you mentioned, there's the pure eye candy of the amazing visuals, and there's the other type of eye candy in the beautiful girls wearing skimpy clothes.
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Sucker punch is one of the few movies that kept spinning around in my head after I saw it. That in itself gets it an A+ for me, unlike all sorts of braindead movies that are released today. I think that, honestly, most people think Sucker punch is another braindead movie, and don't understand that it's far more complex than that. Even those who try to understand it usually get stuck on the various levels of reality, which isn't really that relevant. As I see it, it is a sharp criticism of gender roles that never got the recognition it deserved. Oh, and, it was cut to oblivion too. At least one of the removed scenes explains quite a lot.
I heard this once before about a movie called Highlander 2. Supposedly it was cut to ribbons and the directors cut would make total sense of it. Yeap, I will take your word for it.
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I haven't seen Man of Steel, but I expect it's another mess.Its decent enough. Maybe worth a movie ticket. Worth the 3d too. But only if its 48fps.Nothing is worth 3D. Unfortunately, the only theater in my city that shows original language blockbusters only shows them in 3D. Since I only go to the movies when I want to see something like Star Trek or The Avengers (I don't have the money for more), I'm screwed.
The last thing I bought a ticket for was The Dark Knight Rises.
Oh man sorry to hear that Dark Knight rises was terrible.
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The thing about the Watchmen movie is the cut that Synder wanted to put in theaters was almost 3 hours. He was forced to cut it to 2.5 hours by the studio. You could tell in a lot of places where scenes were cut for time.
The directors cut was a lot better. Yes it was longer but the whole movie flowed together so it did not seem as long.
I was hoping for a Josh Brolin Batman.With Christopher Walken as Robin.
Josh Brolin, not James Brolin. They can get James to play him when they do Miller's Dark Knight storyline. Besides, Walken's already been in one Batman movie. He's reached his quota.
With Sucker punch it isn't the amount. It is which scene. The "high roller" scene was judged too racy and was cut. Too bad it is a defining scene of the plot, and lets you understand both what Baby doll wanted, the ending, and provides an ending to the theme of sexuality running through the movie. And, ironically, the cut removes the one time where she gets to be in control of her own sexuality, denying her even that tiny victory. In short, it makes one of the central themes unresolved. No wonder people find it incomprehensible.
Oh man sorry to hear that Dark Knight rises was terrible.I haven't seen Man of Steel, but I expect it's another mess.Its decent enough. Maybe worth a movie ticket. Worth the 3d too. But only if its 48fps.Nothing is worth 3D. Unfortunately, the only theater in my city that shows original language blockbusters only shows them in 3D. Since I only go to the movies when I want to see something like Star Trek or The Avengers (I don't have the money for more), I'm screwed.
The last thing I bought a ticket for was The Dark Knight Rises.
Where did I say that?
Even in the comics, he's rarely done anything to deserve the "World's Greatest Detective" title that he's so often given. Oracle was much more deserving of that than Bats.Problems with "The Dark Knight Rises" aside, it would be nice to see more of a focus on Batman, the Great Detective.
And less on Batman the leather clad psycho.
The rabid Batman fans disagree, which is kind of sad considering how vocal they are.
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Where did I say that?Oh man sorry to hear that Dark Knight rises was terrible.I haven't seen Man of Steel, but I expect it's another mess.Its decent enough. Maybe worth a movie ticket. Worth the 3d too. But only if its 48fps.Nothing is worth 3D. Unfortunately, the only theater in my city that shows original language blockbusters only shows them in 3D. Since I only go to the movies when I want to see something like Star Trek or The Avengers (I don't have the money for more), I'm screwed.
The last thing I bought a ticket for was The Dark Knight Rises.
Fabius,
I think you need to imagine a full stop between "that" and "Dark Knight". It makes much more sense then.
B:TAS was a good middle ground, I thought. Not grimdark, but not super corny either.
No big surprise, it was retardedly popular (and for good reason).
It's really my baseline for Batman anything.
And Mark Hamill is still the best Joker IMO.
With the exception of a few characters(particularly Catwoman), B:TAS is my "default" too. :)
(hey, they even gave Mr Freeze the origin and characterization most folks now assume he always had!)
And created Harley Quinn, who is one of the few characters to be created for and introduced in a TV show/movie/etc. and make the jump back to the comic.
What is all the fuss? Wheddon is down with it. In fact he thinks Batfleck will "crush it". Y'all are not going to go against the nerd god are you?
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Affleck is Batman.
THANKS, OBAMA!!!
And this version of Batman (animated) did crack the occasional smile...
Affleck is Batman.
THANKS, OBAMA!!!
I really was mostly joking.
What is all the fuss? Wheddon is down with it. In fact he thinks Batfleck will "crush it". Y'all are not going to go against the nerd god are you?
why so serious
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Where did I say that?Oh man sorry to hear that Dark Knight rises was terrible.I haven't seen Man of Steel, but I expect it's another mess.Its decent enough. Maybe worth a movie ticket. Worth the 3d too. But only if its 48fps.Nothing is worth 3D. Unfortunately, the only theater in my city that shows original language blockbusters only shows them in 3D. Since I only go to the movies when I want to see something like Star Trek or The Avengers (I don't have the money for more), I'm screwed.
The last thing I bought a ticket for was The Dark Knight Rises.
Fabius,
I think you need to imagine a full stop between "that" and "Dark Knight". It makes much more sense then.
Apologies Fabius and thank you Mr. Watson. I was saying sorry you had to spend so much to see a really boring movie IMO.
Apologies Fabius and thank you Mr. Watson. I was saying sorry you had to spend so much to see a really boring movie IMO.Where did I say that?Oh man sorry to hear that. Dark Knight rises was terrible.I haven't seen Man of Steel, but I expect it's another mess.Its decent enough. Maybe worth a movie ticket. Worth the 3d too. But only if its 48fps.Nothing is worth 3D. Unfortunately, the only theater in my city that shows original language blockbusters only shows them in 3D. Since I only go to the movies when I want to see something like Star Trek or The Avengers (I don't have the money for more), I'm screwed.
The last thing I bought a ticket for was The Dark Knight Rises.
Fabius,
I think you need to imagine a full stop between "that" and "Dark Knight". It makes much more sense then.
No worries. I don't think it's bad. It certainly doesn't reach The Dark Knight in quality, but it's at least as good as Batman Begins. YMMV, of course.