Can you Worship Two Gods?


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TheFinish wrote:

I don't believe the OP is asking about Domain Powers and such, he's asking about a feat that has, as a requirement "Worshiper of Gorum".

Unfortunately, "Worshiper of X" is not a clearly defined game term. If it'd said "Cleric of X", then it would be. However, there's nothing in the RAW that actually tells us what you have to do to "worship" someone. Do they mean that you have to derive their powers from them, like Clerics, Paladins, etc? Or does it mean that you only have to partake in services, make donations and such; in which case other classes may be able to take the feat?

This isn't a problem with just this feat, by the way. There's a host of others too; like Demonic/Angelic Obedience.

So for now, it's really up to GM wether or not you can take these feats, though it would be nice to get an official response.

You are one of the few people on this thread that actually understood what I am asking. I must be a horrible communicator.

Let me be very clear. I understand the following:

1) A cleric can only derive his Cleric abilities from one God; and
2) In PFS you have to select a God for your Cleric abilities;

However, as TheFinish points out, I simply want to know if a Cleric can first select a God that he can get his Cleric powers from and then 2) take the spike destroyer feat by deciding to "worship" Gorum.

I am convinced now more than ever that the answer is what waithstrike said a long time ago (It is up to the GM for regular games) and (I need to get a ruling from Mike Brock for PFS games)


I think the best question is why spiked destroyer requires you to worship Gorum...

I always thought you were just supposed to have one patron at a time and that's the one who determines your traits, domains, etc. In PFS if you stop worshipping a god you lose the traits you had if I remember right, but I haven't had the need to look that up in forever.

Grand Lodge

Separatist Cleric of Gorum.

Now, you can have it all.


Yeah, if you want to qualify for something as a Gorum worshiper but you want a domain he doesn't offer, just go Separatist. You get 1 domain of your God and one domain your God does not offer. The only limitation is that you can't select an alignment domain that's opposite of yours or your deity's alignment. So if you're L/G and your deity is N/G, you can't select the Evil domain because it conflicts with the Good deity and you can't select the Chaos domain because it conflicts with the character's Lawful alignment, but you could pick the Lawful domain even though the deity isn't Lawful. You also lose proficiency with the deity's favored weapon, but that's easily covered by other means (dip class or spend a feat).


TheFinish wrote:
Unfortunately, "Worshiper of X" is not a clearly defined game term.

Actually, it is. See below where I lay out in clearly defined game terms (read as: exact text from RAW) for what it means for a Cleric to worship a deity.

Driver 325 yards wrote:
However, as TheFinish points out, I simply want to know if a Cleric can first select a God that he can get his Cleric powers from and then 2) take the spike destroyer feat by deciding to "worship" Gorum.

In answer to your question quoted above, the RAW answer is no, per below. You may have missed one of my last posts, so I will relist the exact text from the Cleric section below the flavor text and beginning the mechanical rules that apply to the class and address your actual question. It defines worship of a deity in Pathfinder terms.

PRD wrote:
As their powers are influenced by their faith, all clerics must focus their worship upon a divine source. While the vast majority of clerics revere a specific deity, a small number dedicate themselves to a divine concept worthy of devotion—such as battle, death, justice, or knowledge—free of a deific abstraction. (Work with your GM if you prefer this path to selecting a specific deity.)

Emphasis mine for clarity. While this does not say "you can only worship one god", it does say that a cleric "must focus their worship on "A" divine "SOURCE" or "CONCEPT", note the specific grammatical structure (which all clerical powers, abilities, and spells then emulate throughout Pathfinder source documents, lending further credence to the singularity.

So, according to this statement, as a Cleric you have four choices. Worship a single deity (who is not Gorum), and be disqualified for the feat you seek, worship a single concept (which is not the deity Gorum) and be disqualified for the feat, worship Gorum, qualify for the feat, and ask the DM to be flexible on your domains (unless your chosen domains are diametrically opposed to Gorum's teachings), or become a Separatist Cleric of Gorum, as pointed out above, and qualify for the feat without having to run your domains through the GM's scrutiny.

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Since this thread already exists here, I'm locking this duplicate. Please continue the conversation there.

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