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While i understand the notion i have several gripes about this.
1. Those holidays happen on weekends AFAIK. How can a school forbid students to do things outside of it?
2. Banning a specific holiday because it might offend someone is ridiculous. If we do that we must ban all religious holidays then. I'm sure that someone finds Easter or Ramadan offensive.
3. Because a kid has two moms or doesn't have a dad, other kids with dads shouldn't celebrate father's day? Really? That is stupidity of highest order. I have broken all relations with my father (long story, irrelevant to the discussion), and thus i should get miffed at my neighbor who celebrates father's day by taking his awesome dad out for a night of fun?
4. You just cannot appease everyone, because you are trying to appease humanity, and that is impossible.
Do you look for these things, Hama, or do you just stumble upon them? XD
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I immediately have three questions that the link conspicuously fails to answer: What school? Where in Canada? Is there indeed any truth to this factoid whatsoever?
Heck, I'll toss in a fourth: Where did this "clipping" appear?
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Seems to me like a really bad peice of journalism to me. No school can ban people from this outside of shool. I think maybe what the school is saying is that they will not be advocating Mothers and Fathers day at the school ie no lessons or activites will mention it or evolve around it. They will instead be observing an international day.
The journalist I think is just posting it as sensationalism to get peoples reactions up...like Hama's.
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It just concerns me as a rizing trend. First one school in Canada...then others, then an official ban of mother's and father's day. Because it might hurt or offend someone.
It's just like Russia banning the pride because it offends their government. It's bigoted and wrong.
I for one embrace diversity. Yes, there are people with two moms or two dads, or people who've lost a parent. But, why is it wrong for people to celebrate something because others cant?
Of course, if a kid doesn't have a dad nobody,in their right mind should be telling them to make a,father's day card. But teachers know their kids, i'm sure they would help those less fortunate.
I have a friend who lost jis dad in Bosnia. So when father's day came (we were kids then) he would brood in a corner. So all of us made father's day cards, went with him to his dad's grave and put the cards on the grave.
You don't ban something because someone might get upset over it. You help them work through that.
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While i understand the notion i have several gripes about this.
1. Those holidays happen on weekends AFAIK. How can a school forbid students to do things outside of it?
2. Banning a specific holiday because it might offend someone is ridiculous. If we do that we must ban all religious holidays then. I'm sure that someone finds Easter or Ramadan offensive.
3. Because a kid has two moms or doesn't have a dad, other kids with dads shouldn't celebrate father's day? Really? That is stupidity of highest order. I have broken all relations with my father (long story, irrelevant to the discussion), and thus i should get miffed at my neighbor who celebrates father's day by taking his awesome dad out for a night of fun?
4. You just cannot appease everyone, because you are trying to appease humanity, and that is impossible.
5. You only get to have one holiday instead of two!
Bah...Mother's Day and Father's Day are not even real Holidays. They are a created artifice so Hallmark can sell crap.
Though a little more seriousness...why 'International Day'? Why not Family Day to replace it?
Reported here
http://www.examiner.com/article/canada-school-does-away-with-school-holiday -mother-s-day-and-father-s-day-gone
and here
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/no-more-father-s-mother-s-day-school-nixes-cel ebration-in-the-post-nuclear-age-1.1287370
(Sorry, I don't have mad linking skills)
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The only possible solution is to have schools only have their kids do activities related to traditional holidays. Say those that date back before 1970.
I don't think you're going nearly far enough. Let's ban all holidays that are < 2,000 years old!
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Well, that'll teach me to read tabloid agitprop right after I've woken up.
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It isn't some giant PC conspiracy that's going to keep you from bonding with your Dad or make you hate your neighbor for doing so.
Actually it is. The ghost of Herbert Marcuse told me about it the other day. And we would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for you nosy kids!
That keeps all those weird non-Christian religious holidays that might bother someone out.
It would have to be earlier than 1970, as that invites the risk of Kwanzaa. Can't have that, after all.
But you CAN'T do away with Halloween and Christmas--the economy would collapse!
So, what happens if I divide this "Hama is offended" thread by that Hama thread? It's a bit ironic, don't ya think?
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What if you don't have a family? Because when you were little a band of "heroes" murdered everyone you knew and loved and then argued among themselves about whether killing you would offend the paladin's "code of honor", and finally decided to hogtie you and bring you to a school with disgusting little pinkskins, and made you do math, and wear shoes, huh? What do you do then?
Where's my holiday?!?
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I'm in favor of the Old Testament Jubilee. Free all the slaves, forgive all debt, every 50(?) years.
Vive le Galt!
Sadly, I have a serious answer.
That's November: Native American Heritage Month
Goblin Orphan Babies Idle No More!
EDIT--Your link is broken, Comrade Jeff.
Meh, who cares? If you're only taking one day out of the year to appreciate your parents, then there's something wrong here.
Besides, we're all worm food anyways. Whining over holidays is meaningless.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
Oh migod! The elementary school is tyrannizing me by not having my kid make Mother's Day cards. It's the end of civilization!!!"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
Apparently you know what's best for us thejeff...
Sad how you have to be exclusive to be inclusive...
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While i understand the notion i have several gripes about this.
1. Those holidays happen on weekends AFAIK. How can a school forbid students to do things outside of it?
2. Banning a specific holiday because it might offend someone is ridiculous. If we do that we must ban all religious holidays then. I'm sure that someone finds Easter or Ramadan offensive.
3. Because a kid has two moms or doesn't have a dad, other kids with dads shouldn't celebrate father's day? Really? That is stupidity of highest order. I have broken all relations with my father (long story, irrelevant to the discussion), and thus i should get miffed at my neighbor who celebrates father's day by taking his awesome dad out for a night of fun?
4. You just cannot appease everyone, because you are trying to appease humanity, and that is impossible.
I see nothing wrong with a school not celebrating holidays. Frankly, if I had children, I'd rather have them spend their time in school learning and leave celebrating holidays to their time with their families.
The school isn't banning people from celebrating at home, as far as I can tell. It's saying the holidays aren't going to be celebrated at the school.
I see nothing wrong with a school not celebrating holidays. Frankly, if I had children, I'd rather have them spend their time in school learning and leave celebrating holidays to their time with their families.
[Millions of teachers worldwide, burdened with over-sized classes of inattentive brats, stare daggers at Ms. Price for suggesting adding to their lesson plans.]
thejeff, I don't really care about Mother's day in school or out. It falls into the category I call "Hallmark Holidays" that were literally lobbied for by the greeting card industry.
However, this does fit into the general realm of the tyranny of good intentions. Which is what political correctness is all about. Which is why it's on topic to post that quote.
It's all my fault.
*hangs head in shame*
*it falls off and rolls to the curb*
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How does the alleged replacing of two Hallmark Holidays with one Hallmark Holiday constitute tyranny?
How does the alleged replacing of two Hallmark Holidays with one Hallmark Holiday constitute tyranny?
I think you need to miss the profound irony of the Lewis quote for that to make any damned sense. Possibly being caned "for your own good" at an elite British prep school is also required.
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However, this does fit into the general realm of the tyranny of good intentions. Which is what political correctness is all about. Which is why it's on topic to post that quote.
I like that we're entering a time when seeing the phrase "political correctness" in someone's argument is the new Godwin's Law; anybody using it to refute a position is automatically wrong.
However, this does fit into the general realm of the tyranny of good intentions. Which is what political correctness is all about. Which is why it's on topic to post that quote.I like that we're entering a time when seeing the phrase "political correctness" in someone's argument is the new Godwin's Law; anybody using it to refute a position is automatically wrong.
LOL, you asserting something doesn't make it true.
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LOL, you asserting something doesn't make it true.However, this does fit into the general realm of the tyranny of good intentions. Which is what political correctness is all about. Which is why it's on topic to post that quote.I like that we're entering a time when seeing the phrase "political correctness" in someone's argument is the new Godwin's Law; anybody using it to refute a position is automatically wrong.
Likewise.
So they got rid of two evil corporate captalist holidays and replaced with a evil corrupt one world goverement created holiday...this is not PC...it is just kids wasting their time in school.