I figured out where all the diamonds come from!


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The Block Knight wrote:
Rather than using a combination of spells and magic items to try and get around the pressure and other environmental hazards of Uranus, wouldn't it just be easier to cast Planetary Adaptation? I mean, if the caster already has access to Greater Teleport or Interplanetary Teleport than, presumably, casting a 5th level spell (or 7th if you want to bring your friends) isn't much of a problem.

Sure if you want to take all the fun out of it. That's far to easy.


My understanding is that there is sufficient pressure and heat in what passes for Uranus' mantle that the methane found there, and in the lowest part of the atmosphere, may - they are not 100% positive - may condense into a sort of "ocean of liquid diamonds." But since there is not a real defining line on Uranus between the two spheres, such as there is on Earth, this is an amorphous process, and so it is not really "raining" diamonds there.

And what a liquid diamond is, I am not qualified to say. But I have to wonder if it can be mounted in a wedding ring.

I have now pooped the party. You're welcome.

Shadow Lodge

Because upper tier casters as a rule of thumb, like to waste spells, casting them whenever there is an excuse for it


The Block Knight wrote:
Rather than using a combination of spells and magic items to try and get around the pressure and other environmental hazards of Uranus, wouldn't it just be easier to cast Planetary Adaptation? I mean, if the caster already has access to Greater Teleport or Interplanetary Teleport than, presumably, casting a 5th level spell (or 7th if you want to bring your friends) isn't much of a problem.

Perhaps, although I don't notice pressure on the list of things it protects against.


Showtime at the Apollo wrote:

My understanding is that there is sufficient pressure and heat in what passes for Uranus' mantle that the methane found there, and in the lowest part of the atmosphere, may - they are not 100% positive - may condense into a sort of "ocean of liquid diamonds." But since there is not a real defining line on Uranus between the two spheres, such as there is on Earth, this is an amorphous process, and so it is not really "raining" diamonds there.

And what a liquid diamond is, I am not qualified to say. But I have to wonder if it can be mounted in a wedding ring.

I have now pooped the party. You're welcome.

I'm not sure you can call it a mantle as they're not describing a solid.

As for raining diamonds--the process is slow (if it weren't it would have run to completion by now), the diamonds precipitate out and since they're heavier they slowly fall towards the core, growing as they do so.

To someone standing on the core it's going to be raining diamonds.


The Block Knight wrote:
Rather than using a combination of spells and magic items to try and get around the pressure and other environmental hazards of Uranus, wouldn't it just be easier to cast Planetary Adaptation? I mean, if the caster already has access to Greater Teleport or Interplanetary Teleport than, presumably, casting a 5th level spell (or 7th if you want to bring your friends) isn't much of a problem.

I did not know that existed. That would totally do it.


Loren Pechtel wrote:
The Block Knight wrote:
Rather than using a combination of spells and magic items to try and get around the pressure and other environmental hazards of Uranus, wouldn't it just be easier to cast Planetary Adaptation? I mean, if the caster already has access to Greater Teleport or Interplanetary Teleport than, presumably, casting a 5th level spell (or 7th if you want to bring your friends) isn't much of a problem.
Perhaps, although I don't notice pressure on the list of things it protects against.
Planar Adaptation wrote:
Planar adaptation grants you immunity to the harmful environmental effects of a particular plane of existence (or in this case planet), including such hazards as (does not say limited to) toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air (though it's not spelled out I should think if it protects against lack of air it would protect against too much air/water/etc). Additionally, you gain energy resistance 20 to a single energy type prevalent on that plane (choose one if more than one type is equally prevalent).

Even if pressure is an issue you should be able to circumvent that by wearing a necklace of adaptation. That is the point of that item after all.


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Loren Pechtel wrote:
The Block Knight wrote:
Rather than using a combination of spells and magic items to try and get around the pressure and other environmental hazards of Uranus, wouldn't it just be easier to cast Planetary Adaptation? I mean, if the caster already has access to Greater Teleport or Interplanetary Teleport than, presumably, casting a 5th level spell (or 7th if you want to bring your friends) isn't much of a problem.
Perhaps, although I don't notice pressure on the list of things it protects against.
Planar Adaptation wrote:
Planar adaptation grants you immunity to the harmful environmental effects of a particular plane of existence (or in this case planet), including such hazards as (does not say limited to) toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air (though it's not spelled out I should think if it protects against lack of air it would protect against too much air/water/etc). Additionally, you gain energy resistance 20 to a single energy type prevalent on that plane (choose one if more than one type is equally prevalent).
Even if pressure is an issue you should be able to circumvent that by wearing a necklace of adaptation. That is the point of that item after all.

Ok, time to make an item of planetary adaption: gas giant and go harvest diamonds. I wonder how slowly you have to bring them up to keep them from shattering...

I'm coming up with a item value of 110,000gp. It won't take many diamonds to pay for it.


Loren Pechtel wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Loren Pechtel wrote:
The Block Knight wrote:
Rather than using a combination of spells and magic items to try and get around the pressure and other environmental hazards of Uranus, wouldn't it just be easier to cast Planetary Adaptation? I mean, if the caster already has access to Greater Teleport or Interplanetary Teleport than, presumably, casting a 5th level spell (or 7th if you want to bring your friends) isn't much of a problem.
Perhaps, although I don't notice pressure on the list of things it protects against.
Planar Adaptation wrote:
Planar adaptation grants you immunity to the harmful environmental effects of a particular plane of existence (or in this case planet), including such hazards as (does not say limited to) toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air (though it's not spelled out I should think if it protects against lack of air it would protect against too much air/water/etc). Additionally, you gain energy resistance 20 to a single energy type prevalent on that plane (choose one if more than one type is equally prevalent).
Even if pressure is an issue you should be able to circumvent that by wearing a necklace of adaptation. That is the point of that item after all.
Ok, time to make an item of planetary adaption: gas giant and go harvest diamonds. I wonder how slowly you have to bring them up to keep them from shattering...

Even if they shatter you still have diamond dust. ;-)


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Loren Pechtel wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Loren Pechtel wrote:
The Block Knight wrote:
Rather than using a combination of spells and magic items to try and get around the pressure and other environmental hazards of Uranus, wouldn't it just be easier to cast Planetary Adaptation? I mean, if the caster already has access to Greater Teleport or Interplanetary Teleport than, presumably, casting a 5th level spell (or 7th if you want to bring your friends) isn't much of a problem.
Perhaps, although I don't notice pressure on the list of things it protects against.
Planar Adaptation wrote:
Planar adaptation grants you immunity to the harmful environmental effects of a particular plane of existence (or in this case planet), including such hazards as (does not say limited to) toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air (though it's not spelled out I should think if it protects against lack of air it would protect against too much air/water/etc). Additionally, you gain energy resistance 20 to a single energy type prevalent on that plane (choose one if more than one type is equally prevalent).
Even if pressure is an issue you should be able to circumvent that by wearing a necklace of adaptation. That is the point of that item after all.
Ok, time to make an item of planetary adaption: gas giant and go harvest diamonds. I wonder how slowly you have to bring them up to keep them from shattering...
Even if they shatter you still have diamond dust. ;-)

Just use a fabricate spell to turn it back into a big diamond.


Gavamania, there's debate if that will work or not. However even if it don't I bet make whole would.


Gavmania wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Loren Pechtel wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Loren Pechtel wrote:
The Block Knight wrote:
Rather than using a combination of spells and magic items to try and get around the pressure and other environmental hazards of Uranus, wouldn't it just be easier to cast Planetary Adaptation? I mean, if the caster already has access to Greater Teleport or Interplanetary Teleport than, presumably, casting a 5th level spell (or 7th if you want to bring your friends) isn't much of a problem.
Perhaps, although I don't notice pressure on the list of things it protects against.
Planar Adaptation wrote:
Planar adaptation grants you immunity to the harmful environmental effects of a particular plane of existence (or in this case planet), including such hazards as (does not say limited to) toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air (though it's not spelled out I should think if it protects against lack of air it would protect against too much air/water/etc). Additionally, you gain energy resistance 20 to a single energy type prevalent on that plane (choose one if more than one type is equally prevalent).
Even if pressure is an issue you should be able to circumvent that by wearing a necklace of adaptation. That is the point of that item after all.
Ok, time to make an item of planetary adaption: gas giant and go harvest diamonds. I wonder how slowly you have to bring them up to keep them from shattering...
Even if they shatter you still have diamond dust. ;-)
Just use a fabricate spell to turn it back into a big diamond.

Huh? I certainly wouldn't allow this.


Speaking of ways to survive, if your GM allows a certain interpretation of the rules, you could use this little baby as a space suit. When compared to wherever your home planet is, Uranus probably has an altitude greater than 26,000 feet.


Planetary adaptation only protects you from the vacuum of space. It doesn't mention heat, cold, or pressure.


The Artaxerxes wrote:
Planetary adaptation only protects you from the vacuum of space. It doesn't mention heat, cold, or pressure.

You need to read the spell again.


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
The Artaxerxes wrote:
Planetary adaptation only protects you from the vacuum of space. It doesn't mention heat, cold, or pressure.
You need to read the spell again.

I find it works best to quote the thing:

Planetary Adaptation:

Quote:
This spell functions as planar adaptation save that it only works on worlds of the Material Plane. The cold void of space is considered a single world for the purpose of this spell, allowing you to survive in vacuum.

Planar Adaptation:

Quote:
Planar adaptation grants you immunity to the harmful environmental effects of a particular plane of existence, including such hazards as toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air. Additionally, you gain energy resistance 20 to a single energy type prevalent on that plane (choose one if more than one type is equally prevalent). Planar adaptation has no effect when cast upon your native plane.

So, you could cast Planetary Adaptation (Uranus) followed by Interplanetary Transport to Uranus, and not have to worry about the void of space at all. Then I.T. back before the planetary adaptation runs out.


Tarantula wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
The Artaxerxes wrote:
Planetary adaptation only protects you from the vacuum of space. It doesn't mention heat, cold, or pressure.
You need to read the spell again.

I find it works best to quote the thing:

Planetary Adaptation:

Quote:
This spell functions as planar adaptation save that it only works on worlds of the Material Plane. The cold void of space is considered a single world for the purpose of this spell, allowing you to survive in vacuum.

Planar Adaptation:

Quote:
Planar adaptation grants you immunity to the harmful environmental effects of a particular plane of existence, including such hazards as toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air. Additionally, you gain energy resistance 20 to a single energy type prevalent on that plane (choose one if more than one type is equally prevalent). Planar adaptation has no effect when cast upon your native plane.
So, you could cast Planetary Adaptation (Uranus) followed by Interplanetary Transport to Uranus, and not have to worry about the void of space at all. Then I.T. back before the planetary adaptation runs out.

I did. About nine posts up.


Potion of Glibness
Planar Binding (Shaitan)

"Use your power to continually transport diamonds to me with utmost discretion. If you do this well, then in return I will grant YOU five wishes."

When the Planar Binding wears off and he comes to collect, kill him. Be sure to bar his planar travel abilities.


Malignor wrote:

Potion of Glibness

Planar Binding (Shaitan)

"Use your power to continually transport diamonds to me with utmost discretion. If you do this well, then in return I will grant YOU five wishes."

When the Planar Binding wears off and he comes to collect, kill him. Be sure to bar his planar travel abilities.

Or hell, if he brings you a s&## ton of diamonds just grant him the wishes and repeat.


If you could grant wishes in the first place, why would you need to summon a planar entity to serve you? Just wish for the diamonds. :P


Xaratherus wrote:
If you could grant wishes in the first place, why would you need to summon a planar entity to serve you? Just wish for the diamonds. :P

To minimize, though not eliminate, DM smack down potential I imagine.


What if you're only high enough caster level to cast Planar Binding?


Tarantula wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
The Artaxerxes wrote:
Planetary adaptation only protects you from the vacuum of space. It doesn't mention heat, cold, or pressure.
You need to read the spell again.

I find it works best to quote the thing:

Planetary Adaptation:

Quote:
This spell functions as planar adaptation save that it only works on worlds of the Material Plane. The cold void of space is considered a single world for the purpose of this spell, allowing you to survive in vacuum.

Planar Adaptation:

Quote:
Planar adaptation grants you immunity to the harmful environmental effects of a particular plane of existence, including such hazards as toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air. Additionally, you gain energy resistance 20 to a single energy type prevalent on that plane (choose one if more than one type is equally prevalent). Planar adaptation has no effect when cast upon your native plane.
So, you could cast Planetary Adaptation (Uranus) followed by Interplanetary Transport to Uranus, and not have to worry about the void of space at all. Then I.T. back before the planetary adaptation runs out.

The hazards: Temperature, unbreatheable air and pressure.

Temperature: It clearly protects you even though I doubt they intended to shield you from 10,000 degree heat.

Air: The atmosphere of Uranus is probably not toxic, just lacking in oxygen. I would be inclined to allow the spell to work, though.

Pressure: While it does cover low pressure it's silent on high pressure. Does it work or not?


"including such hazards as toxicity, extreme temperatures, and lack of air"

It is not a full list. They listed those as common examples.

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