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I was just wondering if a tower shield could be made into a different material besides wood. The Core book says it is made of wood but i would like to have a tower shield made of either mithral for weight purposes or adamantine for purposes of using the shield as total cover and making it much more difficult for sundering the shield. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Sure you can - but it's only *really* worthwhile with darkwood and mithral. There's no real benefit for an adamantine shield aside from bragging rights and difficulty in sundering.
A darkwood tower shield costs 10gp per pound of the original tower shield weight, then add 300gp for masterwork. It's easier to hold.
A mithral tower shield costs 1000 gp extra, it's weight is halved, spell failure is decreased by 10%, maximum Dexterity bonuses are increased by 2, and armor check penalties are decreased by 3 (to a minimum of 0).
Scroll down to Special Materials to read up on it:
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/equipment.html
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I did have a DM try and sunder it with a dragon while i was using it as total cover preparing for its breath weapon. Its not like im upset about it, it was about the only thing it could do to try and get to the group but the dragon had adamantine claws and if it wasn't due to poor rolls the shield would have been destroyed. I play a phalanx fighter so my tower shield is almost half my ac and if a DM gets the hair up his backside it could be a vary likely target to do that instead of trying to get to hit me 1st. Now i have been taking the favored class feat to get a bonus vs sunder and disarm so it makes it harder but, I would just like to have clarification on the material because if i had my way it would have been made of steel vs wood and in many home games I have played in i was always allowed to pick the material.
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Sure you can - but it's only *really* worthwhile with darkwood and mithral. There's no real benefit for an adamantine shield aside from bragging rights and difficulty in sundering.
A darkwood tower shield costs 10gp per pound of the original tower shield weight, then add 300gp for masterwork. It's easier to hold.
A mithral tower shield costs 1000 gp extra, it's weight is halved, spell failure is decreased by 10%, maximum Dexterity bonuses are increased by 2, and armor check penalties are decreased by 3 (to a minimum of 0).
Scroll down to Special Materials to read up on it:
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/equipment.htmlYou can't make it out of mithral, as only items made from metal can be made in mithral, and a tower shield is metal. This is the same reason you can't make a buckler out of darkwood. Bucklers are metal, and only items made mostly of wood can be made with darkwood.
Also, 300gp is the added cost for a Masterwork weapon, it would be 150gp for armor or shield. Is an item made from darkwood already count as Masterwork (like one crafted of mithral)?
Slight correction: There IS a darkwood buckler, but only because there's one in the CRB under magic items.
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I don't think you can make it out of mithral.
Here's one.
I think this is enough proof that you could make one from any metal if you wanted, though I agree Mithral is probably the best choice.
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I would recommend greenwood if you're worried about having your tower shield be sundered.
That is AWESOME! I'm really glad you posted that link, since Im getting ready to play through Reign of Winter as a Druid. :P
Slight correction: There IS a darkwood buckler, but only because there's one in the CRB under magic items.
Note that the darkwood buckler may be a poorly named light shield.
It's priced as though it were a darkwood light shield and has the following description:
This nonmagical light wooden shield is made out of darkwood. It has no enhancement bonus, but its construction material makes it lighter than a normal wooden shield. It has no armor check penalty.
I don't think you can make it out of mithral.
Here's one.
I think this is enough proof that you could make one from metal if you wanted, though I agree Mithral is probably the best choice.
Thanks Seth! (Where were you back when I was trying to make this? pout!).
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Yea something does indeed seem off about that item's calculation. I guess whoever created that shield decided that blocking magic missiles is a 9000 gold ability.
Slight correction: There IS a darkwood buckler, but only because there's one in the CRB under magic items.Note that the darkwood buckler may be a poorly named light shield.
It's priced as though it were a darkwood light shield and has the following description:
This nonmagical light wooden shield is made out of darkwood. It has no enhancement bonus, but its construction material makes it lighter than a normal wooden shield. It has no armor check penalty.
Anyone else have a comment on this? One of my characters has the darkwood buckler, so I'd like to know what the deal is. (It wouldn't cause me too much inconvenience if it was a light shield instead of a buckler, since my character doesn't dual-wield in any case, but these things are always good to check.)
Anyone else have a comment on this? One of my characters has the darkwood buckler, so I'd like to know what the deal is. (It wouldn't cause me too much inconvenience if it was a light shield instead of a buckler, since my character doesn't dual-wield in any case, but these things are always good to check.)Slight correction: There IS a darkwood buckler, but only because there's one in the CRB under magic items.Note that the darkwood buckler may be a poorly named light shield.
It's priced as though it were a darkwood light shield and has the following description:
This nonmagical light wooden shield is made out of darkwood. It has no enhancement bonus, but its construction material makes it lighter than a normal wooden shield. It has no armor check penalty.
There was a thread on this a while ago. It's priced at 205. If you price it out, it doesn't match the price of a light shield or a buckler
Buckler = 15
Masterwork = 150
Darkwood = 50
215 GP
Light Shield = 3
Masterwork = 150
Darkwood = 50
203 GP
Darkwood Buckler costs 205 GP so it doesn't match the cost of either. It does say it's a light shield, but then if it is a light shield, Why even call it a buckler in the first place? Looks like a FAQ candidate to me.
Darkwood Buckler costs 205 GP so it doesn't match the cost of either. It does say it's a light shield, but then if it is a light shield, Why even call it a buckler in the first place? Looks like a FAQ candidate to me.
Ummmm, looks like it costs 203 to me.
Darkwood Buckler costs 205 GP so it doesn't match the cost of either. It does say it's a light shield, but then if it is a light shield, Why even call it a buckler in the first place? Looks like a FAQ candidate to me.Ummmm, looks like it costs 203 to me.
Strange, my book says 205. Is that from some other book than Core?
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Are you aware of a late medieval heavy crossbow trick with a tower shield - especially during sieges? The crossbowman wore one on his back. He would shoot, turnaround, cock and load, then turn back to shoot.
Way back in 2nd Edition AD&D it was a standard tactic in my group to sling a shield across your back when you weren't using it to get the AC bonus on your rear arc. Even characters that never used it as an actual shield wore one on their back.
How about Pauliel, it halves the weight and has harness 7 armor check reduced by 2. +15 gp per pound. Greenwood is also an excellent suggestion. And then theres the Ironwood spell but the shield also gains the weight of steel so... kindof unweildable for anyone but hercules. A supernaturally strong character (like STR 20 and up) might be able to.