AOO's and what is the beginning of the round?


Rules Questions

Shadow Lodge

ok so i have a tetori with snapping turtle style. now on my turn i:

* move through a threatened space
* provoke the AOO
* after the target misses i use the counter grapple ability of turtle style which is an immediate action.

i then use my standard action to pin the target if my grapple is successful, everything is ok so far... but when does my swift/immediate action rest? is it when the person who won initiative goes or is it one full round from when the action was used, in this case my turn?


PRD: The Combat Round wrote:
When the rules refer to a “full round”, they usually mean a span of time from a particular initiative count in one round to the same initiative count in the next round. Effects that last a certain number of rounds end just before the same initiative count that they began on.


This is how it works

Turns are not counted as when everyone goes they reset when they get back to your turn.

So you roll an Initiative of 15
Your Enemy in question rolled an Initiative of say 12

You used your

Move, Immediate and your Standard action.

Now you get those back when the Counter gets back your turn again.
Simply put it resets on 15.

Liberty's Edge

"Using an immediate action on your turn is the same as using a swift action and counts as your swift action for that turn. You cannot use another immediate action or a swift action until after your next turn if you have used an immediate action when it is not currently your turn (effectively, using an immediate action before your turn is equivalent to using your swift action for the coming turn). You also cannot use an immediate action if you are flat-footed."

If you use a swift or immediate action during your turn, it resets at the start of your next turn. If you use an immediate action outside of your turn, it resets at the end of your next turn.

In your example, you are using an immediate action during your turn. It resets at the start of your next turn.

Shadow Lodge

that is how i always thought it worked, but the CRB states "at the top of the round" and doesn't qualify as a "full round" in definition.

Liberty's Edge

Where is the passage with "at the top of the round?"

The interaction between swift and immediate spells results in a specific rule for when they reset.

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