Smoking in Golarion.


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Yeah, pretty basic question. I'm making a rather Tom Waits-esque character in that he practically lives in bars, and I just wondered if they smoke. Do they have tobacco? Are there cigarettes? Cigars? Do they have to roll them themselves, or are they pre-made by stores? Are there pipes? I know there's drinking, but can my character also look cool in addition?


In one of the pathfinder tales books the tiefling Radovan smokes Taldan cigars.


[Rolls a flayleaf joint, sparks up]


I one time wanted to make a stoner Monk who was basically RVD.


Sandara Quinn (cleric Npc) in Skulls and shackles has a pipe in her picture and is described as always having it at hand.

Scarab Sages

Golarion is 420 friendly

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Vamptastic wrote:
...can my character also look cool in addition?

There's nothing cooler than a nasty hacking cough that won't go away!


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Vamptastic wrote:
Yeah, pretty basic question. I'm making a rather Tom Waits-esque character in that he practically lives in bars, and I just wondered if they smoke. Do they have tobacco? Are there cigarettes? Cigars? Do they have to roll them themselves, or are they pre-made by stores? Are there pipes? I know there's drinking, but can my character also look cool in addition?

This is to assume that by looking cool you mean looking like someone too stupid or addicted to know they are literally killing themselves.

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Oh and everyone around them...with the second hand smoke.


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I mean really efreti should be banned in public places because they are smoking all of the time.


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Pyrrhic Victory wrote:
I mean really efreti should be banned in public places because they are smoking all of the time.

I suddenly like you, PV.

Smoking? It's a handy social device, effectively giving a character "something to do" or allows him/her to engage socially if there's no other reason to. And it can look cool, or contemplative.

My PFS character (dwarven cleric) will often light his pipe just to show everyone he's contemplating something slowly. It's an easy characterization.

It can aid with establishing hooks, by breaking a character out of logical routines:
"My wizard takes a break from his scroll-scribing, and goes into town to get tobacco."

GM: "Great, while you're there, you run into an interesting person..."

It also may serve as a new form of applied magic or alchemy

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Pyrrhic Victory wrote:
I mean really efreti should be banned in public places because they are smoking all of the time.

I'm pretty sure they've already been banned from New York City.

Grand Lodge

Pipe smoking is pretty dang iconic in fantasy.


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whatever sissies
take a lipper of barbarian chew like a real AM BARBARIAN
spit into the wizard's bag of holding

this stuff will make you into a godsdang calistrian tyrannosaurus


Lamontius wrote:

whatever sissies

take a lipper of barbarian chew like a real AM BARBARIAN
spit into the wizard's bag of holding

this stuff will make you into a godsdang calistrian tyrannosaurus

Lamontius, you're bleeding!


I ain't got time t' bleed


Got time to duck?


hi5!

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Vamptastic wrote:
Yeah, pretty basic question. I'm making a rather Tom Waits-esque character in that he practically lives in bars, and I just wondered if they smoke. Do they have tobacco? Are there cigarettes? Cigars? Do they have to roll them themselves, or are they pre-made by stores? Are there pipes? I know there's drinking, but can my character also look cool in addition?

There is smoking in Golarion, but in no way does that make you look cool. But again that is a matter of opinion I guess.


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Just like the variety of drinks that might suit different races perhaps there are things that might suit smokers of different races. A plant based race might like the extra carbon dioxide, like a refreshing breath of clean air for a mammal. An insect type might like a cyanide laced smudgy flower cigar, and a earth dweller might like a loam tipped brimstone filtred spore inpregnated leaf roll. Could censures like they use in ritual churches be a way, o hookah, a shell filled with medicinal smudges or ritual use of purifying smoke in a bury the hatchet peacepipe?

I live in a place where smoking is almost non existant, but we have many aboriginal uses of smoke as a way to explore and express relationships and understandings of the world. If we let go of the hyper hygeinic considerations of our world then we might exlplore Golarian with richer options.

In crafting a character we love them in attention to detail, we test drive another reality safely, and in considering if and what they like to wear, eat, drink, sing along to and with whom, we use and build our muscle for understanding and having compassion.

I live in a country with socialized medicine so i understand the resntment against people drawing on the common purse with each pull on a cigarette, but this is a world of imagination, one of the great strengths of pathfinder as a game is that we expand our imaginations, explore realities that can be startling, beautiful, inspire xenospasms of mind bending adjustment and savour the sights tastes and smells of exotic realities, often carefully crafted and symbolically expressive.

A little advice from the 1660,s quakers might fit here advices and queries 17 an excerpt:

When ways are strange or disturbing to you, try to sense where they come from and what has nourished the lives of others. Listen patiently and seek the truth which other people's opinions may contain for you. Avoid hurtful criticism and provocative language. Do not allow the strength of your convictions to betray you into making statements or allegations that are unfair or untrue. Think it possible that you may be mistaken

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Wouldn't a plant-based race smoking tobacco be just one step shy of cannibalism? ;)


Vic Wertz wrote:
Vamptastic wrote:
...can my character also look cool in addition?
There's nothing cooler than a nasty hacking cough that won't go away!

i agree with mr Vic.

As a smoker, i can tell you a huge advice!!

Don´t Smoke, it sucks!!

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Lex Starwalker wrote:
Wouldn't a plant-based race smoking tobacco be just one step shy of cannibalism? ;)

No more than eating cow makes me one.

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I don't get the "sick bastard, it is all bad, and you should feel bad" stuff.

It's a dang fantasy game.

Unclench, and let the player play.

Pipeweed biatch.


Only when they aren't getting wasted on Pesh.

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Juda de Kerioth wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Vamptastic wrote:
...can my character also look cool in addition?
There's nothing cooler than a nasty hacking cough that won't go away!

i agree with mr Vic.

As a smoker, i can tell you a huge advice!!

Don´t Smoke, it sucks!!

As a cigar smoker i say only smoke the good stuff and in moderation

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Lex Starwalker wrote:
Wouldn't a plant-based race smoking tobacco be just one step shy of cannibalism? ;)

It's really hard to smoke without lungs.

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I am amused. I am imagining the PCs in my group having the attitude that the child eating, slave taking, demon worshipping ogre is a perfectly fine as a neighbour until he decides to spark up his pipe, then he suddenly becomes percieved as evil and in need of a good getting killed.


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The paladin will have to carry a tape measure. In Golarion, smoking is not permitted in buildings or dungeons, and smokers must be at least 25 feet from the entrances of said locations or be found in violation of the Law. (At which point smiting may commence.)

Sczarni

In my current Absalom campaign, my brother's gestalt Gunslinger/Urban Ranger private eye smokes in combat. He's invented the zippo lighter using alchemist's fire and clockwork, so that he can light up as a swift action.

Smoking is pretty key for the mood of certain adventure genres.

Silver Crusade

What Vic isn't telling you is that if a character smokes enough, they can gain a new skill: Perform/Mega Man (Captain N TV Series version) Voice. This skill provides +5 Mega Synergy bonus to Perform/Comedy, so those who wring out every possible bit of optimization in their characters might want to look into this.


You gotta think this through though - even if you smoke in Golarion, if you manage to make enough coin as an adventurer, you can afford the finest restorative healing magic available. So smoke away!

And when you get black lung, or emphysema, you can cast mending or make whole, right? Or maybe the more conventional healing magic, like regenerate for your wrecked lungs - works great for ruined livers too! If you're lazy, there's always reincarnate. Start over fresh, in a new body!

Seriously though, from someone who struggles with it, don't smoke.

Liberty's Edge

I bet fire resistance and/or poison immunity would be the best way to avoid the ill effects of smoking. Demons and devils are probably chain smokers.


As far as the Game goes, I decided that my Skull and Shackles tiefling smokes. Though I find it odd that people have stated they thin smoking us cool. It is just heavily threaded throughout society and culture and has the effects of that. As an actual habit its pretty Gross.

But i Decided my CN pirate having bad habits it would be suitable... and a tiefling can do thing slike put the Cigar out on their sin as a tough guy thing.

Haven't adressed how stupid smoing on a flamable boat is :P


Well native Americans smoked as a means of social interaction between leaders, as a means to finalize peace talks and more. It wasn't a habit per se. So assumptions by modern peoples of what smoking means today, has little bearing in the original consumption of tobacco, and what it might mean in a fantasy society.

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