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I would love to see some monsters inspired from FFX/X-2 and Phantasy Star IV.

I would like to see some monsters(animal and/or magical beast) that mixes traits such as hair/fur and scales, hair/fur and feathers, feathers and scales, etc. but without being a chimera based monster.

Some biological monsters/living weapons created by the Azlanti and other once advanced(or still advanced) races.

More animal type creatures that are made up animals.

Xian sound interesting as a new type of outsider group.


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Honestly, I'd be down for avian lycanthropes:
- were-eagle (eagle)
- were-owl (great horned owl)
- were-raven (giant raven, new creature)

And this time, can we get female ones instead of males? All artworks of lycathropes are male characters, 2 or 3 female lycanthopes would be a nice change.


Gancanagh wrote:

The terrible Anaye are demons (or gods, but I ignore that) from Native American tales, they are a group of terrible and unique creatures.

Yeitso - The scaled giant which can also be pictured as a dinosaur-lizardman, ogre-lizardman or dragon-lizardman.

Binaye Ahani - Said to be limbless twins that shoot lightning from their terrible bulging eyes, some legends picture them as a demonic living totem-pole creature that has multiple faces on its totem with the same eyes that shoot lightning, I would also like the Totem-demon version of this creature because two limbless twins sound a bit boring to me.

Delgeth - Horrible pronghorn demons that look like monstrous versions of the Pronghorn with burning hooves, eyes and terrible split horns much like the real pronghorn but much larger. They have nasty smiles on their faces and razor sharp teeth that bite through most substances with ease, like the real pronghorn (which is the fastest land-creature next to the cheetah on this earth) the Delgeth is extremely fast. It has a sick hunger for murder and bloodshed. It leaves burning footprints everywhere it goes.

Talking about twin monsters from mythology tho brings me to the awesome Bakru!

Evil twins in the form of teenagers made from both flesh and wood, these would never listen to commands and are very tricky to handle.

In pathfinder I would like to see the awesome Bakru as freaky teenager twins both naked but without private parts as their lower body is entirely made from wood, their face also has woodparts and their arms also end in wood.

They don't have hands or feet though, both their...

The Anaye would make an awesome race of fiends. The Delgeth, Yeitso, and Binaye Ahani, along with the headless, shaggy Theelgeth, and harpylike Tsenahale, would be great. Cold, hunger, poverty, and old age were also supposedly Anaye according to the myth, so we could have four more themed by those concepts. That would give us a total of nine, which would be a great start to a race of fiends. I don't usually suggest entire new outsider races, but if we want a race of fiends to plague Arcadia, that's the way to go. In fact, if I could add any outsider race it would be the Anaye.

The Bakru is cool too and new to me. Where are they from?

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I'm not sure if anyone has thought of this yet... but Nazgul? Seeing that this is a game based off of a game that is based off of Lord of the Rings shouldn't that be in here


Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
cool stuff

I was actually going to suggest this for Arcadia, although if done as outsiders they should be native outsiders.


Cr500cricket wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone has thought of this yet... but Nazgul? Seeing that this is a game based off of a game that is based off of Lord of the Rings shouldn't that be in here

I figure liches, graveknights, and wraiths kind of fill that niche already. Nazgul just seem a bit too tied into the Middle-earth mythos to really stand apart without being utter rip-offs.

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MMCJawa wrote:
Cr500cricket wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone has thought of this yet... but Nazgul? Seeing that this is a game based off of a game that is based off of Lord of the Rings shouldn't that be in here
I figure liches, graveknights, and wraiths kind of fill that niche already. Nazgul just seem a bit too tied into the Middle-earth mythos to really stand apart without being utter rip-offs.

Seems legit


I am sure that Nazgul is copyrighted, but if it wasn't I would like the name used for something cool like an undead magus or magus like creature.

A playable 0HD race that is small size and has a swim speed.

I would like some wereowls and wereravens also more owl based monsters and some humming bird based ones. A female werepanther and female werefox would be cool as well.


The bakru come from Surinam myth if I remember correctly! Strangely the have a dutch wiki but not a English wiki entry...


Dragon78 wrote:
I would like some wereowls and wereravens also more owl based monsters and some humming bird based ones. A female werepanther and female werefox would be cool as well.

Here's my reasoning:

- The eagle and owl are often seen as day/night counterparts, much like the Giant Eagle and Giant Owl, so seeing just one would feel like it's missing something... not that no one could make the missing creature normally though.

- The were-raven was actually a lycanthrope back in 2e, which is why I'd like to see it return. Problem is that the raven familiar is Tiny, just like the hawk and owl. However, both the eagle and great horned owl are Small, which are perfect for medium lycanthropes. So, just like we have the dire rat as a Small rat, we could have a giant raven as Small, perfect for a base animal for the were-raven.

- Hummingbirds wouldn't be eligible regardless of how you look at it, because lycanthropes require carnivorous, omnivorous and/or scavenger animals, barring herbivorous animals. Nevertheless, after seeing a movie like Epic, giant hummingbirds, thrushes and swallows would make great additions to sylvan warriors, scouts an feys.

- I don't know much about the were-panther being iconic, but if they can make it different than the were-tiger, I'm all up for it.

- I could see a were-fox... but watch Paizo trolling us by picking a kitsune as the base creature XD Jokes aside, yes, that would be sweet.

- I do remember Forgotten Realms once having a were-snake in Serpent Kingdoms.

Still, 3 lycanthropes would be more than enough for B5.


I said humming bird based monsters(like giant hummingbirds or monsters with a body shape like a hummingbird) not werehummingbirds.


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SAMAS wrote:

Kaiju:

A Celestial Humanoid whom can only be active a few minutes per day, and can link him/herself to a PC or NPC(A cookie to whomever gets the reference).

A Fiendish Kaiju that can split itself into smaller versions and re-form.

A Cyberne- Sorry, Half-Construct, Space Kaiju linked to the Dominion of the Black

Also a Construct Kaiju resembling King Mogaru made specifically to fight Mogaru.


Mecha Mogaru;)


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Threeshades wrote:
SAMAS wrote:

Kaiju:

A Celestial Humanoid whom can only be active a few minutes per day, and can link him/herself to a PC or NPC(A cookie to whomever gets the reference).

A Fiendish Kaiju that can split itself into smaller versions and re-form.

A Cyberne- Sorry, Half-Construct, Space Kaiju linked to the Dominion of the Black

Also a Construct Kaiju resembling King Mogaru made specifically to fight Mogaru.

Ultraman, Destoroyah, Showa MechaGodzilla and Kiryu. Awesome. I'd support that.


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JiCi wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
I would like some wereowls and wereravens also more owl based monsters and some humming bird based ones. A female werepanther and female werefox would be cool as well.

Here's my reasoning:

- The eagle and owl are often seen as day/night counterparts, much like the Giant Eagle and Giant Owl, so seeing just one would feel like it's missing something... not that no one could make the missing creature normally though.

- The were-raven was actually a lycanthrope back in 2e, which is why I'd like to see it return. Problem is that the raven familiar is Tiny, just like the hawk and owl. However, both the eagle and great horned owl are Small, which are perfect for medium lycanthropes. So, just like we have the dire rat as a Small rat, we could have a giant raven as Small, perfect for a base animal for the were-raven.

- Hummingbirds wouldn't be eligible regardless of how you look at it, because lycanthropes require carnivorous, omnivorous and/or scavenger animals, barring herbivorous animals. Nevertheless, after seeing a movie like Epic, giant hummingbirds, thrushes and swallows would make great additions to sylvan warriors, scouts an feys.

- I don't know much about the were-panther being iconic, but if they can make it different than the were-tiger, I'm all up for it.

- I could see a were-fox... but watch Paizo trolling us by picking a kitsune as the base creature XD Jokes aside, yes, that would be sweet.

- I do remember Forgotten Realms once having a were-snake in Serpent Kingdoms.

Still, 3 lycanthropes would be more than enough for B5.

I'd personally like to see a Werejaguar, since those actually appeared in Aztec/Mayan folklore. (I think.)

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JiCi wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
I would like some wereowls and wereravens also more owl based monsters and some humming bird based ones. A female werepanther and female werefox would be cool as well.

Here's my reasoning:

- The eagle and owl are often seen as day/night counterparts, much like the Giant Eagle and Giant Owl, so seeing just one would feel like it's missing something... not that no one could make the missing creature normally though.

- The were-raven was actually a lycanthrope back in 2e, which is why I'd like to see it return. Problem is that the raven familiar is Tiny, just like the hawk and owl. However, both the eagle and great horned owl are Small, which are perfect for medium lycanthropes. So, just like we have the dire rat as a Small rat, we could have a giant raven as Small, perfect for a base animal for the were-raven.

- Hummingbirds wouldn't be eligible regardless of how you look at it, because lycanthropes require carnivorous, omnivorous and/or scavenger animals, barring herbivorous animals. Nevertheless, after seeing a movie like Epic, giant hummingbirds, thrushes and swallows would make great additions to sylvan warriors, scouts an feys.

- I don't know much about the were-panther being iconic, but if they can make it different than the were-tiger, I'm all up for it.

- I could see a were-fox... but watch Paizo trolling us by picking a kitsune as the base creature XD Jokes aside, yes, that would be sweet.

- I do remember Forgotten Realms once having a were-snake in Serpent Kingdoms.

Still, 3 lycanthropes would be more than enough for B5.

if it is limited to carnivorous/scavengers then how do we have the wereboar? and I want a wereladybug


Werejaguars would be cool as well. Also to break the "it must be a carnivore/scavenger thing" I would also like wererabbits.


Cr500cricket wrote:
JiCi wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
I would like some wereowls and wereravens also more owl based monsters and some humming bird based ones. A female werepanther and female werefox would be cool as well.

Here's my reasoning:

- The eagle and owl are often seen as day/night counterparts, much like the Giant Eagle and Giant Owl, so seeing just one would feel like it's missing something... not that no one could make the missing creature normally though.

- The were-raven was actually a lycanthrope back in 2e, which is why I'd like to see it return. Problem is that the raven familiar is Tiny, just like the hawk and owl. However, both the eagle and great horned owl are Small, which are perfect for medium lycanthropes. So, just like we have the dire rat as a Small rat, we could have a giant raven as Small, perfect for a base animal for the were-raven.

- Hummingbirds wouldn't be eligible regardless of how you look at it, because lycanthropes require carnivorous, omnivorous and/or scavenger animals, barring herbivorous animals. Nevertheless, after seeing a movie like Epic, giant hummingbirds, thrushes and swallows would make great additions to sylvan warriors, scouts an feys.

- I don't know much about the were-panther being iconic, but if they can make it different than the were-tiger, I'm all up for it.

- I could see a were-fox... but watch Paizo trolling us by picking a kitsune as the base creature XD Jokes aside, yes, that would be sweet.

- I do remember Forgotten Realms once having a were-snake in Serpent Kingdoms.

Still, 3 lycanthropes would be more than enough for B5.

if it is limited to carnivorous/scavengers then how do we have the wereboar? and I want a wereladybug

Lycanthropes in real world myth are less linked to carnivory than the relative danger such beasts pose to humans. Boars can be quite dangerous (Just ask King Robert), however people are more likely to fear large carnivores (sharks, bears, big cats, wolves, hyenas). About the only non carnivores commonly associated with lycanthropy I can think of off the top of my head are boars and water buffalo (the latter in SE Asia)

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I'm completely into the were >insert giant version of things we don't see as scary but when it's big it probably would be scary here<

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Dragon78 wrote:
Werejaguars would be cool as well. Also to break the "it must be a carnivore/scavenger thing" I would also like wererabbits.

Do I detect a Wallace and Gromit fan?


MMCJawa wrote:
Cr500cricket wrote:
JiCi wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
I would like some wereowls and wereravens also more owl based monsters and some humming bird based ones. A female werepanther and female werefox would be cool as well.

Here's my reasoning:

- The eagle and owl are often seen as day/night counterparts, much like the Giant Eagle and Giant Owl, so seeing just one would feel like it's missing something... not that no one could make the missing creature normally though.

- The were-raven was actually a lycanthrope back in 2e, which is why I'd like to see it return. Problem is that the raven familiar is Tiny, just like the hawk and owl. However, both the eagle and great horned owl are Small, which are perfect for medium lycanthropes. So, just like we have the dire rat as a Small rat, we could have a giant raven as Small, perfect for a base animal for the were-raven.

- Hummingbirds wouldn't be eligible regardless of how you look at it, because lycanthropes require carnivorous, omnivorous and/or scavenger animals, barring herbivorous animals. Nevertheless, after seeing a movie like Epic, giant hummingbirds, thrushes and swallows would make great additions to sylvan warriors, scouts an feys.

- I don't know much about the were-panther being iconic, but if they can make it different than the were-tiger, I'm all up for it.

- I could see a were-fox... but watch Paizo trolling us by picking a kitsune as the base creature XD Jokes aside, yes, that would be sweet.

- I do remember Forgotten Realms once having a were-snake in Serpent Kingdoms.

Still, 3 lycanthropes would be more than enough for B5.

if it is limited to carnivorous/scavengers then how do we have the wereboar? and I want a wereladybug
Lycanthropes in real world myth are less linked to carnivory than the relative danger such beasts pose to humans. Boars can be quite dangerous (Just ask King Robert), however people are more likely to fear large carnivores (sharks, bears, big cats, wolves, hyenas). About the only...

I'd like werebuffalo.


Oh... here's a rule that Paizo changed: back in 3.5, the animal had to be a predator, a scavenger and/or omnivorous. I'm guessing that a boar is considered simply a predator.

In Pathfinder, the animal... is just limited to being one size category smaller or larger than the base creature, without any regard to the animal's natural diet and/or hunting tactics.

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Boars, as a pig species will pretty much eat anything, therefore an omnivore.

My grandfather kept hummingbirds, and technically they ARE carnivores. They will eat fruitflies if given half the chance.

Well... classic horrors revisited say that there are tales of

- Goodly wereravens
- Gonomeish and dwarven Werebadgers
- Eleven werefoxes

also werehyenas and werejackles

Werecritters I'd personally like to see

Wereravens that are CG
Werefoxes that are all sexy in their sexyness
Grumpy and gruff werebadgers
Good natured, but rather trouble making Weredolphins, as a counterpart to weresharks. Have a tendency to rescue lost sailors, and have highly active sex drive
Just a simple werecat, as in a housecat. likely doesn't get along with wererats.


Werehyenas have been mention in Pathfinder but we haven't seen stats for them...yet.

Yes, I do like Wallace and Gromit, though I haven't seen the earlier stuff for a long time.

We could use more dolphin based creatures, maybe a good outsider one, a magical beast(shapechanger) one, etc.

We could use some oozes that resemble humanoids, animals, and plants.

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We need more possession creatures


Were-princess.

Early Gunnison, dwarven were-princess:

"We were out drinking at the bars til the early morning a few months ago and it seemed like nothing at first. The bite barely broke the skin and I managed to escape easily enough. In the morning I was a bit feverish, which I attributed to a hangover. However, the next full moon it hit me like the Sledge O Torag. I felt my skin grow soft and my beard grow luscious. I was compelled to carry an impracticably small purse. Couldn't even fit my keyring in there. I stumbled into the first dress store I could find and in a haze I bought their flounciest dress. I blanked out after that.

I woke up the next morning still wearing the dress and a pair of size 13 high heels that I don't know where they came from. My skin had gone back to it's normal leathery self and my beard was greasy and grizzled again. I went to day spa after day spa looking for a cure but they could only temporarily keep the curse at bay. Every full moon since I've heard its call and I dare not try to contain it lest I further aggrieve the affliction."

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Humphrey Boggard wrote:

Were-princess.

** spoiler omitted **

okaaaayyyyyy


More elemental creatures that are not humanoid in form.

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oh yes definitely


How about 2 pages deconstructing the "troop" subtype as a template? Ok, here's the thing: in Pathfinder #71: Rasputin Must Die!, there's a stat block for troops, or squadrons. However, it was just presented as a subtype, like a swarm, instead of a template.

Having a troop template would be nice to have... and would nice to get in order to use armies in games.


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On the topic of lycanthropes, Wererhino. Not from mythology, but you know it would be awesome.


Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
On the topic of lycanthropes, Wererhino. Not from mythology, but you know it would be awesome.

By a strict reading of the rules, you... can already build one, since the base animal doesn't have to be a predator, a scavenger and/or omnivorous anyone. You could have a wererhino, werehippo and wereelephant and would still be a legal mix.

Speaking of wereelephants... aren't there some in Indian or African mythologies? Those are the two spots where these beasts are present, surely SOME legends have been made about them.


I want a weregeco. One that tries to sell me cart insurance too as the iconic.


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Werelizards and wereturtles would be cool as well.

I would much rather the "troop subtype" not be a template for the same reason I don't want a swarm template or dire animal template. Some things are better if they are customized per creature and not a generic template.

I would really like to see new types of Lamia.

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I like the idea of a werehippo... hippos are SCARY!


Dragon78 wrote:
I would much rather the "troop subtype" not be a template for the same reason I don't want a swarm template or dire animal template. Some things are better if they are customized per creature and not a generic template.

I'm asking this because the whole subtype seems to follow certain algorhythms that can be easily modified for other creatures... except that we don't have those... yet.


Someone mentioned werejaguars and werehyenas. Totally down for that and stats for a jaguar :)

I'm still reeling from the awesomeness of the Iron Gods blog from the other day, but I think if the Bestiary 5 is going to be this year, then we'd have to wait for the Bestiary 6 next year to grab monsters from Iron Gods.

I need to relist some of the stuff from my old list that I want to see but didn't see get made.


From what was said by the designer of the troop subtype they work like eidolons or animated objects. There is a base to them that is modified with special abilities that have an effect on CR.


If I remember correctly werehyenas were mentioned in the Osirion legacy of pharaohs campaign setting book.


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In terms of werecreatures:
Wereraven (CG)
Werefox (CN/CG)
Werebadger (N)
Wererhino (N)
Wereelephent (NG)
Werehippo (NE)
Werehyena (CE)
Werejaguar (CN)
Werebuffalo (N)
Weredolphin (CG)
Wereeagle or Wereowl (NG)
Werelizard (LN)
Wereturtle (LG)

That is a lot...


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Ok, I get that this would be niche group of monster but we need a insectile player race that has vermin lycanthropy.

Werespider
Werescorpion
Weremantis
Werewasp

you get the idea. Hmm... or maybe that's what lycanthropy looks like on Akiton (Mars).


I prefer my lycanthropes to be mammals, reptiles, birds, fish, and amphibians.


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Just an idea here, but what about a "savage" template, something to add to humanoids or such that would make a monstrous/brutal form of them


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how about instead of "savage" we could have "primal", "prehistoric", or "primeval" for the name of template.

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I'd like to see some more HG Wells based things.

We already have an achemiclely invisible template, and morloks.

Maybe something telmplateish based off of the Island of Dr. Mauro?

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14 sided die wrote:
Just an idea here, but what about a "savage" template, something to add to humanoids or such that would make a monstrous/brutal form of them

We have a savage template in Mythic Adventures that seems to fit your description

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Nightmares for other elements (especially lightning) but not exactly alike


Cr500cricket wrote:
14 sided die wrote:
Just an idea here, but what about a "savage" template, something to add to humanoids or such that would make a monstrous/brutal form of them
We have a savage template in Mythic Adventures that seems to fit your description

Yup, although they're not dumber than usual.

On the subject of lycanthropes, sure, it would be great to see more, but in the end, the template has everything for us to make our own rather easily. I few rule clarifications should be done though, like why a werebat can fly in hybrid form, when hybrids don't use the animal's speed(s), and in the same vein, why can the werecrocodile in hybrid form can swim and NOT the wereshark.

As for werevermins, I see this more as a variant. you know these alternate versions we can do with certain creatures? A werevermin, or "entomothrope", could simply be a variant. For instance:
- wereeagle
- wereowl
- wereraven
- werefox
- weremantis... or spider... or scorpion... or wasp (whatever), with variant description.

As for lightning-based monsters, the Raiju from one of the APs didn't get ported into a Bestiary yet. For other monsters, we already have the thunderbird, the lightning elementals and to a certain extend, the garuda. I can't think of any other creatures, aside from living thunderclouds abnd humanoid-shaped lightning bolts.


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Come on aren't there more interesting creatures to talk about? You can turn every animal into a lycanthrope... but I think the best ones are already there... maybe the vain werefox... but the werehyena would be too much luke the gnoll..


I would also like more creatures based on monsters taken from diablo the game! Some very nasty ones there! Ill come up with a list of names later.

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