I'm new to Pathfinder with a wonder GM and amazing group. I created my first character who is a descendant of silver dragon, started off a fighter. As much as I love playing as a full fighter, I just can't resist being a dragon. So I decided his true blood shall be awaken in this adventure.
I know that new player should try to play a simple character, but I just want to try new things all the time. I wanted him to be Fighter X/Sorcerer X/Dragon Disciple X/Barbarian X/Stalwart Defender X.
I don't know if it's a good idea, so I wonder if anyone could give me some advice. From what I can see, the books didn't say much about not being able to take Form of Dragon II, Rage and Defensive Stance at the same time. It will gives me at least 6 rounds of Str and AC boost, which I will need to threaten the enemies and protect my team. I wonder would it be possible, and allowed.
Thank you.
Rage and defensive stance at the same time? Hmmm...I don't think it's against the rules...but it would be somewhat bizarre...against the logic of the two...can one be raging and still be stoic...at the same time? Ugh. I dunno...
I understand your concert. But I was thinking since my character is very protective, he will stand his ground with his raging passion to protect others even if he is going to died.
I don't see rage as I lost my mind and I'm going berserk like I just keep killing things. I see it as channeling the angry, passion and courage into a rage where a man will have more strength to fight for what he most valued to the end. Could be his life, his friends, his wealth, or his honor.
And defensive stance is more like a stance that you hold to protect other, or yourself. So to me, I don't see why not. However, I understand why you think it's strange, as if it's as bizarre as seeing a gentleman barbarian or a bard as the world's greatest swordsman. (which they are awesome.)
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Rage and defensive stance at the same time? Hmmm...I don't think it's against the rules...but it would be somewhat bizarre...against the logic of the two...can one be raging and still be stoic...at the same time? Ugh. I dunno...I understand your concert. But I was thinking since my character is very protective, he will stand his ground with his raging passion to protect others even if he is going to died.
I don't see rage as I lost my mind and I'm going berserk like I just keep killing things. I see it as channeling the angry, passion and courage into a rage where a man will have more strength to fight for what he most valued to the end. Could be his life, his friends, his wealth, or his honor.
And defensive stance is more like a stance that you hold to protect other, or yourself. So to me, I don't see why not. However, I understand why you think it's strange, as if it's as bizarre as seeing a gentleman barbarian or a bard as the world's greatest swordsman. (which they are awesome.)
It's a valid point...it's not like you lose control of your character or anything...it's just...highly unusual.
As an aside, I've wanted to play a skald for a long time...a barbarian/bard...
It would be interesting to see a barbarian/bard! Please let me know how it turns out if you created one.
It would be interesting to see a barbarian/bard! Please let me know how it turns out if you created one.
I was thinking about doing just this. My current idea, involves someone who looks like a classic barbarian, but will be primary bard. His fighting will look like some chaotic but skillful dancing. He will also describe to his enemies how he will defeat them. "When I am done they will call you Lefty, since you be only left with half leg and piece of a ear"
I would like to give you an atta-boy for being able to divorce a class, such as barbarian from concept, the frothing at the mouth, half-naked savage warrior.
Your description of "passionately defending those you love" remind me the character Ichigo from the anime BLEACH
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Awesome, I like how your idea of barbarian/bard character! Very interesting way of fighting and role playing.
The way I made my character this way is because his older brother recently died, he is angry at himself for never treated his brother the way he should had been.(Because they were born in an eastern family and oldest and the youngest get everything, so he was jealous of him all the time.) Then later on, things happen and remind him of his older brother, so his dragon blood awaken.
However, the more he become like a silver dragon, the more he regrets and hates himself. (Because silver dragon is very protective.) Soon after, he will start to rage when ever he needs to fight. He will torn his enemies apart, but it was only to take his self- hatred on others. At last, he will finally learn to understand he can't go back to the past. All he can do now is to protect what's left in front of him, which he will learn to channel his rage into passion of protect those who he cares for and will stand his ground until his doom.
Without going into to specifics, the main disadvantage with multiclassing that many times (in my view) is that it will be a long time before the character gets to the place you actually want.
That said, if you're okay with tracking all the various class abilities, and roleplaying the awakening of your PC's dragon blood over many levels, I say go for it.
Thank you for your advice. This is my first time playing Pathfinder but I really enjoy it so I'm willing to track down all those abilities and role playing as much as I can.
Rage and Defensive Stance cannot be used together. For one, they both give moral bonuses to STR and CON, which don't stack, and the +2 and -2 to AC cancel each other out. Finally, this:
" A defensive stance requires a level of emotional calm, and it may not be maintained by a character in a rage (such as from the rage class feature or the rage spell)."
So the answer is no.
My recommendation is just Fighter 7 / Sorc 3 / DD 10. If you're looking to be able to rage, take the Viking archetype for Fighter. I'd also recommend taking Eldritch Heritage (Orc or Abysal), and Improved Eldritch Heritage, as it will give you another +6 STR by level 19.
Rage and Defensive Stance cannot be used together. For one, they both give moral bonuses to STR and CON, which don't stack, and the +2 and -2 to AC cancel each other out. Finally, this:
" A defensive stance requires a level of emotional calm, and it may not be maintained by a character in a rage (such as from the rage class feature or the rage spell)."
So the answer is no.
My recommendation is just Fighter 7 / Sorc 3 / DD 10. If you're looking to be able to rage, take the Viking archetype for Fighter. I'd also recommend taking Eldritch Heritage (Orc or Abysal), and Improved Eldritch Heritage, as it will give you another +6 STR by level 19.
Oh, I see. I guess I will have to go without raging. Thank you for letting me know. However, I can't take Eldritch Heritage because we only play by core rule book and advance player guild.
Well, you could go Urban Rager, for a Morale bonus to Dex.
This should stack with Defensive Stance, or at least, it's debatable.
Combine with a Furious Courageous weapon.
Thanks but I can only use Core Rule Book and Player Advanced Guide.
I think I will still go for the quin-class if I get to play my character that long. I might not get to hit as much as a full fighter, can't cast high level spells and can't damages as much. However, I would be able to have good AC with decent hit rate with my two handed weapon. Also I can turn dragon and have improved uncanny dodge. I wonder if improved uncanny dodge stack with the dodge feat.