Work with what you have, and min-max it like you're trying to survive Rappan Athuk. I'm going to assume 20 point buy.
STR 14-4
DEX 17+2
CON 14-2
INT 7
WIS 14
CHA 7
Combining your small size, your natural armor bonus, +1/3 to monk AC favored class bonus, and a good dex score, you can easily become a massive AC tank. Add in Master of Many Styles archetype for Crane Style for more AC while fighting defensively, and a attack deflected every round, and I'd be amazed if even one hit lands in early levels. Just make sure to take weapon finesse at level 1 to be able to hit things.
You won't deal much damage early, but once you get enough money buy a +1 Agile Amulet of Might Fists (essentially a +2) to allow you to add your Dex mod to damage on your fist.
can certainly go ranged (probably best option) or go with a dodge tank/master of style, or maneuver master. like bloodtroll said, what are you looking for in monk?
Try to get 13 strength eventually for power attack, but even then try to get a pair of guided brass knuckles or get weapon finesse.
Get the feats Crane style, Crane Wing, and Crane Riposte and pump up your AC as high as possible.
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did they change the rueling on brass knuckles? im reading everywhere that you still get unarmed strike damage with them
That particular item has had a long strange trip. Officially, they no longer do unarmed damge, but you may want to check with your GM to see what their take on it is.
There's also the bodywraps of striking, but they have their own issues and are rather complicated for what they do.
The good news is that the amulet of mighty fists itself and unarmed strike have been errata'd. Amulets are going to be a bit cheaper for you now, and unarmed strikes act as a single abstracted weapon again.
As mentioned earlier, Agile or possibly Guided are probably going to be important to you in terms of keeping up.
Taking a look at the Qinggong archetype is probably going to help you as well. Keep in mind that that specific archetype is an exception to the norm: You don't have to switch a standard monk ability out if you don't want to. This will let you replace a number of powers you may not need for your monk with stuff that'll help him out.
I'd be tempted to suggest Flowing Monk for an indirect approach to battlefield control, but I'd worry about that small size not playing nicely with all the CMB checks that archetype uses. I believe there's a feat somewhere to counterbalance that disadvantage, but IIRC it was race specific. It could be another thing to check on with your GM.
Str is only needed if you want +s to damage. You can still hit things with a low str, and you'll still deal the 1d6, 1d8, 2d6, etc that your fists do in dice damage, but you won't have any bonuses to that.
The +1/3 top monk AC is a special favored class bonus that Kobolds get which they can take instead of +1 HP or +1 skill point every time they take a level in monk (so long as it is your favored class).
You can also pick up Piranha Strike, which is power attack but for attacks that you use weapon finesse with. This will help you deal damage to targets with lower AC, but you might want to consider not using this if the enemy is hard to hit.
If you get an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fist (only costs 4k) you can add you dex mod to damage, and your dependence on str is completely gone.
Don't take vital strike, it's not worth it on a monk. Your damage comes from full round attacks, not single attacks. Save the feats and use them on something else.
Blackbloodtroll's comment reminds me of a ninja thread I participated in recently. I spent a long time trying to find all the different ways a Ninja could be really effective. Towards the end I designed a character who was an awesome strike from the shadows type character... based off of the Ranger.
Sad to say, but there are some classes that can do what other classes try to do, and do it better. I'd give blackbloodtroll a chance. You can flavor a character to fill a fill a role or type without ever using the mechanic that was designed to accomplish it in the first place.
i want to make my character, and on the very likly chance that a GM who lets me play does not allow me to play my race, im going to have to build a character to fit from the pazio already made races.
so that basically means i need to make a kobold monk.
What is "your race?" What is your character concept that requires a kobold monk?
Your race basically sounds like you want to be a kobold, but don't want the stats to screw you. I can't really blame you for that, but yeah, I doubt anyone would go for it.
If it's a "half-kobold," why not just be a human and take Racial Heritage: Kobold as a feat?
this warrior is best described to fight like a monk, quick movement and use of no weapons at all. but most importantly both personalities are wise...
if you have a suggestion on how to meet this basic concept of "he fights like a monk" with a different class, that uses wisdom and does not require str, im all ears... eyes... whatever
Empyreal Sorcerer
You cast with Wisdom and you can focus on touch spells if you want to look like you're punching stuff. Hell, you could do a level of Sohei then take Empyreal Sorcerer until you qualify for Eldritch Knight.
How about a Crusader Cleric of either Irori or a concept (i.e. this spirit thing)? Then you can cast and buff with your Wisdom and end up with the Guided Hand feat to let you attack with Wisdom. With your buffs, you won't need Strength, really.
I guess the message is that you really can't do much in melee as a small creature with a big penalty to Str and Con, so, uh, spellcasting is just about your only hope.
going for a kobold monk, i would say either MoMM, or maneuver master. dont focus on damage dealing, but battlefield control.
i want to make my character, and on the very likly chance that a GM who lets me play does not allow me to play my race, im going to have to build a character to fit from the pazio already made races.
so that basically means i need to make a kobold monk. i have no idea where to start and how to make it viable. every single monk guide tells you "STR MOST IMPORTANT!" well im playing a kobold, str better not be most important... so i need a monk that works without str.
i'd like to use unarmed if i can, and i wish i could do some symbolence of damage, despite my dismal str modifyer. but if i cannot then ill have to work with what i got.
if anyone can point me in the right direction i would be most greatful ty
Max out your dexterity, take Weapon Finesse. At the earliest opportunity you can, get an agile amulet of mighty fists, which will add your dex modifier instead of your strength modifier to damage.
Your damage will not be too shabby, although you will still have issues of, well, being a monk, basically. I would say that going Qinggong monk is the best option. You can have an awesome AC that way, which is something, especially combined with Snake Style or Crane Style. I would also recommend the vagabond child trait, as you can get Disable Device as a class skill, and then act as a party scout. You won't be a brilliant scout, but it will give you something to do if you struggle doing anything else.
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I suggest the Agile path as well, but with the Brawler Fighter, if you want to do any kind of damage.
For a defensive build, I suggest an Inquisitor of Korada with the Defense Subdomain.
Both of these options allow for an Unarmed build, with a Monk feel, but without the MAD of the Monk class.
If you're going to do a half-kobold and can't use a custom race your best bet would be a human with the racial heritage feat.
Seriously, kobolds suck. They're the only race with less than 6 RP and if you take away skill bonuses to professions and crafts they have a big fat 0 RP. The RP gap between a kobold and an average CRB race is as great as the gap between an average CRB race and a race that needs a +1 APL adjustment below level 6.
kobolds do suck, though they do get very decent Armor Class with a natural armor bonus and size bonus to armor class of +1, and a dex bonus, the favored class bonus for monk is also quite good giving you +1 ac per 3 levels. Since you can take piranha strike your strength penalty is not a dealbreaker, you have a dex and a size bonus to compensate.
I would recommend to squeeze toughness in though since you will need the extra hitpoints eventually, converting your favored class bonus to AC and a penalty on con.
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I'm not sure your suggestion fits as well as mine though =D
Tiefling
Scaled Skin: The skin of these tieflings provides some energy resistance, but is also as hard as armor. Choose one of the following energy types: cold, electricity, or fire. A tiefling with this trait gains resistance 5 in the chosen energy type and also gains a +1 natural armor bonus to AC. This racial trait replaces fiendish resistance.
Prehensile Tail: Many tieflings have tails, but some have long, flexible tails that can be used to carry items. While they cannot wield weapons with their tails, they can use them to retrieve small, stowed objects carried on their persons as a swift action. This racial trait replaces fiendish sorcery.
Vestigial Wings: Some tieflings possess a pair of undersized, withered, or stunted wings like a mockery of those of their fiendish forbearer. Sometimes these wings are leathery, like those of a bat. Other times they are covered with a scattering of black, red, or violet feathers. Rare manifestations can take even more bizarre forms. These wings do not provide the lift required for actual flight, but do have enough power to aid flight attained by some other method, and grant a +4 racial bonus on Fly skill checks. This racial trait replaces skilled.
Seems to hit all his high points without a) using feats to get there b) missing some of his points and c) doesn't require "custom" racial making.
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I do love Tieflings.
Now, with the Aasimar path, the Tail Terror and other Kobold feats are available
In the Aasimar options, there is:
Once per day, you can breathe frosty air in a 10-foot cone. This acts as a breath weapon that deals a number of points of cold damage equal to 1d4 + 1/2 your level, to a maximum of 1d4+5.
You have a natural fly speed of 20 feet (poor).
You possess taloned fingers that act as natural weapons and deal 1d4 points of damage.
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By raw you can... I'm sure any GM worth his salt would take the scales references as also a Prerequisite...
Your scales take on the color and some of the resistances of one of the chromatic dragons
you have no scales as an Aasimar.
I know you have the "technically it only look for "kobold" bit but that's hogwash.
Besides, the point is for balance and what not. If he's going custom race route anyhow it's easier to just reskin Tiefling as this half-kobold abomination and then let him qualify for the feats as a half-kobold.
Furthermore you're not using all 5 of your feats up to lvl 10 to get to the options you've mentioned =D
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well here's what you're doing, picking a half angel half human race, picking a racial variant, picking an alternate ability, picking a human feat, then picking feats whose flavor clearly describe scales, but you're able to pass for human without a disguise skill... but you're covered in scales?
You're bending any suspension of disbelief in this aspect. You're going about it ineffeciently as well.
Idyllkin possess bestial aspects and calm dispositions, and often act as peaceful intermediaries between lawful and chaotic agents of good.
Scion of Humanity Some aasimars' heavenly ancestry is extremely distant. An aasimar with this racial trait counts as an outsider (native) and a humanoid (human) for any effect related to race, including feat prerequisites and spells that affect humanoids. She can pass for human without using the Disguise skill. This racial trait replaces the Celestial language and alters the native subtype.
Racial Heritage
The blood of a non-human ancestor flows in your veins.
Prerequisite: Human.
Benefit: Choose another humanoid race. You count as both human and that race for any effects related to race. For example, if you choose dwarf, you are considered both a human and a dwarf for the purpose of taking traits, feats, how spells and magic items affect you, and so on.
Why go through all the effort when you can say "bamphf" here's a "half-kobold" and use the tiefling template and then let it only take kobold or human feats like half races do.
He just gave them to you. ;)
O.o ... I see nothing good coming of this ...
You can put a point into linguistics to learn a language, yes. Just because it is not a class skill does not mean you can't train in it. You just won't be as good with a linguistics check.