The Realm Works Kickstarter is now rocketing towards its third stretch goal, and this one is of significant interest to fans of Richard Pett and Frog God Games.
If we reach the third stretch goal, we'll be including the entirety of The Blight, an upcoming Adventure Path for Pathfinder from Frog God Games. Richard Pett’s Twisted City - The Blight, is planned to be 12 districts of a city with 12 adventures, providing an Adventure Path with 12 meaty installments.
Between is a temptation too great for some; a land of plenty (and danger) on the doorstep, rich in possible wealth and with the draw of Between Vessels—curious objects that retain memories, feelings and even souls—the reasons for venturing into the land are numerous, and have drawn many. The Illuminati, using the funds of the royal family, have struck again and again into this new empire, and those very incursions threaten to undo the Blight. Constant incursions into Between from the Blight have weakened the fabric of the wall that separates the two places. There are those who wish the levee to break, who would revel in the chaos and madness of life and souls that would happen should a fracture burst and a tidal wave of Between pour into the city. There are also those who have a conscience, who oppose the Illuminati and the royal family as much as they safely can in the face of such power. They know nothing about the levee, but they have their suspicions. And into this world come the PCs…
If you want to get your hands on this epic AP, you'll need to check out the Realm Works Kickstarter.
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As with the Halls of the mountain King stretch goal, the content will only be made available via the software platform. So no PDFs! I felt that this needs a bit if clarification...
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Exactly the reason why I won't pledge. If the pdfs were included, I'd consider this an awesome deal, but I NEED to own something physical, even printing out my pdfs.
I presume Frog God will be releasing this on its own so the Print/PDFs will be available there, no?
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Yeah, but I first got the impression that the respective pdfs would be part of the kickstarter, which they aren't.
Really wish this was being done for Razor Coast, if it was I'd pledge right away. I'm interested in the Pett but I have enough on my plate already. :(
Hint: We aren't done yet, and there are more stretch goals in the pipeline. :)
As with the Halls of the mountain King stretch goal, the content will only be made available via the software platform. So no PDFs! I felt that this needs a bit if clarification...
There's a prominent note about this near the top of the stretch goals section. How would you recommend we make this clearer?
I suspect he meant it in relation to this thread.
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Agreed. Stating
If we reach the third stretch goal, we'll be including the entirety of The Blight, an upcoming Adventure Path for Pathfinder from Frog God Games. Richard Pett’s Twisted City - The Blight, is planned to be 12 districts of a city with 12 adventures, providing an Adventure Path with 12 meaty installments.
makes it sound as if the AP itself is being included as a stretch goal, not that the contents of the AP would be integrated into the application.
Don't get me wrong, I think this could be a handy tool for ongoing campaigns and have been toying with kicking in on this one if finances allow, but the wording should be made clearer when making announcements of this sort lest someone cry "bait and switch".
Agreed. Stating
If we reach the third stretch goal, we'll be including the entirety of The Blight, an upcoming Adventure Path for Pathfinder from Frog God Games. Richard Pett’s Twisted City - The Blight, is planned to be 12 districts of a city with 12 adventures, providing an Adventure Path with 12 meaty installments.makes it sound as if the AP itself is being included as a stretch goal, not that the contents of the AP would be integrated into the application.
I'm confused. The AP itself is definitely being included as a stretch goal. The content of the AP *is* the AP. If you purchase a printed book, you have the AP content in one format. If you have the PDF, you have the AP content in a different format. If you have it in Realm Works, you have the AP in yet another format. Everything is present in each format (text, maps, artwork, etc). The only difference is the delivery vehicle, and Realm Works makes the material vastly more usable than PDF or printed book. That's why Frog God Games and many others have hopped on board with what we're doing.
It seems to me that the issue here likely centers on this representing an unfamiliar new change instead of anything actually misleading. We clearly have work to do to explain the new model that we're introducing to everyone.
Thanks for the feedback!
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I think the point is that many people would be interested in getting the AP in a print format, or at least in a nice PDF. Limiting its' availability to only Realm Works can be seen as a negative to some as much as a positive to others.
For example, I'd be interested in getting this AP, but only in a printed form or, at the very least, a PDF. Making it available only in Realm Works makes it of no use to me.
Make sense?
I think the point is that many people would be interested in getting the AP in a print format, or at least in a nice PDF. Limiting its' availability to only Realm Works can be seen as a negative to some as much as a positive to others.
For example, I'd be interested in getting this AP, but only in a printed form or, at the very least, a PDF. Making it available only in Realm Works makes it of no use to me.
Make sense?
That makes complete sense. The part I don't understand is that, just because the format isn't to some people's liking, that doesn't make the thread useless to everyone, nor does it make it misleading - both of which seem to be the tone of a few posters above. As you point out, availability of the AP through Realm Works is a negative to some and a positive to others, so our goal is to bring this to the attention of those who would view it as a positive. What surprises me is the disparagement coming from some posters simply because it's not in the format they happen to want.
I'm assuming that them Realm Works version of The Blight would be the Pathfinder version? Can't seem to get no love for Swords & Wizardry from you guys. :P
My understanding is that both the Pathfinder and S&W material will be included. Realm Works is not game-specific, so it's possible for us to include both. :)
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Agreed. Stating
If we reach the third stretch goal, we'll be including the entirety of The Blight, an upcoming Adventure Path for Pathfinder from Frog God Games. Richard Pett’s Twisted City - The Blight, is planned to be 12 districts of a city with 12 adventures, providing an Adventure Path with 12 meaty installments.makes it sound as if the AP itself is being included as a stretch goal, not that the contents of the AP would be integrated into the application.I'm confused. The AP itself is definitely being included as a stretch goal. The content of the AP *is* the AP. If you purchase a printed book, you have the AP content in one format. If you have the PDF, you have the AP content in a different format. If you have it in Realm Works, you have the AP in yet another format. Everything is present in each format (text, maps, artwork, etc). The only difference is the delivery vehicle, and Realm Works makes the material vastly more usable than PDF or printed book. That's why Frog God Games and many others have hopped on board with what we're doing.
It seems to me that the issue here likely centers on this representing an unfamiliar new change instead of anything actually misleading. We clearly have work to do to explain the new model that we're introducing to everyone.
Thanks for the feedback!
Ah no, the confusion is on my end. I did not realize the full AP wod be accessible through RW. Though I would like to have the AP as a stand alone as well, if it is fully accessible through RW that could work.
Just need to figure out if I can afford $250 right now (would not want a recurring monthly charge after all for cloud storage).
So will there be a pdf at some point of Halls of the Mountain King?
That's a question for Open Design. I'm going to guess that it will at some point, but that's just a guess.
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I'm assuming that them Realm Works version of The Blight would be the Pathfinder version? Can't seem to get no love for Swords & Wizardry from you guys. :PMy understanding is that both the Pathfinder and S&W material will be included. Realm Works is not game-specific, so it's possible for us to include both. :)
Cool. So when comes the S&W data set for Hero Labs ?
Cool. So when comes the S&W data set for Hero Labs ?I'm assuming that them Realm Works version of The Blight would be the Pathfinder version? Can't seem to get no love for Swords & Wizardry from you guys. :PMy understanding is that both the Pathfinder and S&W material will be included. Realm Works is not game-specific, so it's possible for us to include both. :)
We are not planning to have a S&W version for Hero Lab, sorry guys, Pathfinder only.
Skeeter
Really wish this was being done for Razor Coast, if it was I'd pledge right away. I'm interested in the Pett but I have enough on my plate already. :(
Your wish has now come true. :)
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So will there be a pdf at some point of Halls of the Mountain King?That's a question for Open Design. I'm going to guess that it will at some point, but that's just a guess.
Probably a better question for Open Design/Kobold Press, but wasn't that one of the early patron projects that was only given out to the patrons? Is Mr. Baur opening up the locks on those old projects? I'd love to get hem, as I didn't discover Open Design until after their projects started being publicly released.
Probably a better question for Open Design/Kobold Press, but wasn't that one of the early patron projects that was only given out to the patrons? Is Mr. Baur opening up the locks on those old projects? I'd love to get hem, as I didn't discover Open Design until after their projects started being publicly released.So will there be a pdf at some point of Halls of the Mountain King?That's a question for Open Design. I'm going to guess that it will at some point, but that's just a guess.
That's definitely a question for Open Design. I'm not aware of their specific plans regarding a possible re-release of Halls of the Mountain King.
I can see this being better then a PDF. If I like the software, and I'm guessing I will because I love Hero Lab. My favorite thing about a good PDF these days is navigation via bookmarks. Imagine how much further this could take that idea.
Damn! Apparently just missed the KS. Sad panda.
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Stereofm,
It was mentioned up=thread that it most likely will be. As a PDF I am sure. You will not get an official answer at this time as it is not done as of yet.
So while cash may or may not be infinite... the software is still wonderful and for one am saving up for it as we speak. I think I can save 30-50 dollars by May or June sometime. Meanwhile one has to keep in mind folks.. even IF you do not get the kickstarter items one can also enter them by hand at a later time :)
I would be very dissapointed if the Blight was only available through buying someone elses software. I am guessing that it will be though and this is only an add on for the software.
I would be very dissapointed if the Blight was only available through buying someone elses software. I am guessing that it will be though and this is only an add on for the software.
It will be available in all our standard formats. There will be a print version.
SG
Thanks Skeeter! Time to save my pennies before they ban them from cirulation. I had presumed as much. I was actually leaning toward getting the Realmworks, but the wife said no. No arguing with mama over money especially after I overspent on RA and Razor Coast!
I would be very dissapointed if the Blight was only available through buying someone elses software. I am guessing that it will be though and this is only an add on for the software.It will be available in all our standard formats. There will be a print version.
SG
Yes to be specific, The Blight will be a PDF subscription starting late 2013. At the end of the subscription you will received a final print version from Frog God Games. Realm works will continue to update as the material becomes available to the the public but it is a separate tool that enhances the experience.
Will the print be a hardcover with all the adventures?
Will the print be a hardcover with all the adventures?
RA for sure is hardcover. I'm not 100% on CD, it depends on the page count as well as the number of subscribers we get.
Will the print be a hardcover with all the adventures?
Ill go out on a limb and assume Curmudgeonly was referring to the Blight subscription. And yes, I believe that is a hardcover (Bill loves hardcovers) at the end as well.
SG
Asked that before: Any estimated page-count for CD and Rappan Athuk's subscription? My gaming bucks are unfortunately very tight these days and while I love the first two CD-installments, they are not exactly long.
Thanks for answering!
Asked that before: Any estimated page-count for CD and Rappan Athuk's subscription? My gaming bucks are unfortunately very tight these days and while I love the first two CD-installments, they are not exactly long.
Thanks for answering!
20-25 pages per installment, so far.
Unfortunately, I cant be more specific yet.
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Will the print be a hardcover with all the adventures?Ill go out on a limb and assume Curmudgeonly was referring to the Blight subscription. And yes, I believe that is a hardcover (Bill loves hardcovers) at the end as well.
SG
You assumed correctly! Thanks!
I got the Blight through the Realm Works KS, so I won't subscribe, but if there's a Hardcover, I'll end up buying that :)
From the Realm Workskickstarter you get The Blight in that application, not in pdf.
Why would they be insane?.......,..
Mnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
Such fine crackling...