I just looked at the core rule book (PDF) and it shows the Sickle as slashing and the Dagger as Piercing or Slashing. It also shows the Kukris as a slashing weapon.
edit: technically the sickle, dagger and kukri are not swords so though they are slashing they wouldn't count.
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I just looked at the core rule book (PDF) and it shows the Sickle as slashing and the Dagger as Piercing or Slashing. It also shows the Kukris as a slashing weapon.
edit: technically the sickle, dagger and kukri are not swords so though they are slashing they wouldn't count.
Slashing, yes, but they are not "one-handed" weapons. They are "light."
Kinda silly that you can't use them, but as long as it's not for PFS it wouldn't break anything to allow any non-two handed weapons which are slashing.
No one said PFS. I am going to take it that you misspoke. It is obvious that all three weapons are one handed, but you are right they are light. and as I said they wouldn't be used as black blades
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I did not misspeak. The reason I brought up PFS was because PFS requires a strict adherence to RAW. In PFS, you cannot talk your GM into allowing you to use a dagger or a sickle or a handaxe as your black blade. In anything else, your GM has the authority to chose otherwise.
Daggers and sickles are weapons which may be used in one hand, but they are not "one-handed weapons." "One-handed" is a weapon category, and is used as such everywhere it is found in the rules. It is this reason they cannot be used as black blades. The fact they are not swords has nothing to do with it. A battlaxe (a one-handed slashing melee weapon) may be a black blade for example, but a handaxe (a light slashing melee weapon) may not.
and if youre a tengu race? theyre proficient with any slashing weapon?
the race statment do not overcome the class one?
I think someone may have been operating their brain looking at your avatar. I've done it before.
an interesting version of the Bladebound Magus is a Dwarf using a 'black' Dwarven Waraxe.
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So does a Katana count if you don't have EWP: Katana?
Some people on this thread seem to have this ability tangled up with proficiency. Hence the Tengu comment. What the Magus is proficient in has no effect on this class ability.
They do not have to have proficiency with a weapon to have it as a black blade (though unlikely anyone would want to) and having proficiency is something does not remove the limit of it having to be one handed slashing (That Tengu comment was really out there.)
especially since a base magus isnt proficient with whip.... a black whip.... hmmmm
can anyone say Blacklash??
Um... what? What do tengu have to do with the class abilities of a magus archetype?and if youre a tengu race? theyre proficient with any slashing weapon?
the race statment do not overcome the class one?
tengus are proficient with every blade in the game, so they can use a bastard without a feat, or a kukri, or any weapon with slashing damage... so, if the dagger is piercing and slashing, he can use it as he will, for example as a blakblade, i guess.
Nothing to do with your avatar.
as stated above it's not a proficiency issue, its a one handed vs light or two handed issue
as stated above it's not a proficiency issue, its a one handed vs light or two handed issue
No, it is: did they mean "one handed" as the type or "one handed" as number of hands required to hold it.
Otherwise, a large sized dagger counts (as it is one handed for a meduim creature).
take the sawthoot sabre with the feat and there you go a dagger which use like a longsword or a longsword whic can be used as a dagger and problem is solved!!
i think the one handed are considered for which way he can carry them because he needs a free hand to spells, he dont care if the weapon is one handed or light weapon, only if the weapon was a th he cannot use his ability
so, the spells are considered light weapons and the magus can use another weapon (light or one handed) at his hand to do this ability.
realy you dont figured how it works?
again mr jason bulhman writing rules in riddles
You're reading too far into things. One handed weapon means a weapon that is in the one-handed category when sized for you. Nothing more.
i think the one handed are considered for which way he can carry them because he needs a free hand to spells, he dont care if the weapon is one handed or light weapon, only if the weapon was a th he cannot use his ability
so, the spells are considered light weapons and the magus can use another weapon (light or one handed) at his hand to do this ability.
realy you dont figured how it works?
again mr jason bulhman writing rules in riddles
Weapons are split into categories, one of those categories happens to be 'one handed' for each of simple, martial or exotic. Just because a feat or ability allows you to use a weapon in a way normally not allowed (ie two handed weapon in one hand) doesn't change its actual designation.
The ability states you can choose a one handed weapon as a black blade, a great sword is still a two handed weapon even with something that let's you use it one handed. When looking for legal weapons to make a black blade from, you look at the weapon charts and anything under 'one handed' is what you are able to choose from. It is that simple, no riddles, but if your grasp of the English language isn't particularly great (as a second language possibly) I guess I could see a little confusion occurring.
the confussion is not for me is for all of you!!
magus need one handed to make his ability... in the UM are a picture of a magus with shield!!!
That and there is an archetype for a magus with a shield. Though even more so is that art does not = rules.
One handed slashing. Those are the rules, proficiency has nothing to do with nor does any of the other nonsense. If a DM wants to let someone use light I personally see no problem with it but that is house-rule territory not RAW.
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Um... what? What do tengu have to do with the class abilities of a magus archetype?and if youre a tengu race? theyre proficient with any slashing weapon?
the race statment do not overcome the class one?tengus are proficient with every blade in the game, so they can use a bastard without a feat, or a kukri, or any weapon with slashing damage... so, if the dagger is piercing and slashing, he can use it as he will, for example as a blakblade, i guess.
Nothing to do with your avatar.
Slight derail: Incorrect. Tengu are proficient with swords and sword-like weapons, NOT with slashing weapons.
On topic:
the confussion is not for me is for all of you!!
magus need one handed to make his ability... in the UM are a picture of a magus with shield!!!
No, I'm sure the confusion is all for you, not us. The magus (all maguses, magi, mageges... whatever, all of them) require a free hand for their Spell Combat class ability. But the Blade Bound archetype does not represent all magus, just like Skirnir (the magus archetype which uses a shield) do not represent all magus.
Two things to keep in mind: 1) when a particular phrase represents a game mechanic, that phrase represents that mechanic in all chases where it is found within the rules and 2) pictures are not rules.
Two things to keep in mind:
1) when a particular phrase represents a game mechanic, that phrase represents that mechanic in all chases where it is found within the rules and
2) pictures are not rules.
1.- mmm maybe we can just ask to who-always-write-in-riddles-and-create-indirectly-this-mess-james-jacobs
2.- pictures are not rules, i noticed that with the god pictures and theyre favored weapon and which one are they using in them..
but at mere sight it looks as you says, but we can think a little more and fix it
There is no riddles at all. Its in fact pretty plan and simple. There is nothing to fix as it is all the way it was intended to be.
I really don't see the hang up here.
Two things to keep in mind:
1) when a particular phrase represents a game mechanic, that phrase represents that mechanic in all chases where it is found within the rules and
2) pictures are not rules.1.- mmm maybe we can just ask to who-always-write-in-riddles-and-create-indirectly-this-mess-james-jacobs
2.- pictures are not rules, i noticed that with the god pictures and theyre favored weapon and which one are they using in them..
but at mere sight it looks as you says, but we can think a little more and fix it
What does the creative director of Golarion have to do with a rules issue?
I didn't know that Thanks for the heads up
More importantly, thanks to certain posters, Jacobs no longer takes rules questions, because certain folks couldn't wrap their head around the concept that his answers are mainly what he uses for his home campaign, not to be taken as Holy Writ, as they can and do vary from core assumptions.
To be fair he also got upset when what he said wasn't taken as what the rules were supposed to mean after saying he didn't want what he was saying to be considered holy writ too.
It's just easier on everyone's nerves this way I think.
However I do appreciate his insight on things 'from the inside' whenever he has a chance to share them.