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One of my players got a hold of a magical lamp that summons an efreet to grant 1 wish for the summoner. The player wished: "I wish to be invulnerable".
The idea behind the wish is that it will twist and pervade any wish made into a negative effect. (The lamp was bestowed on the player by a disguised, evil rakshasa)
I could use some advice as to how to accomlish this so that the wish will be mostly negative effect, without breaking the character to be totally unplayable.
Similiar to this is also one other of my players. This person also got a wish from an efreet (main storyline stuff), after freeing him from 7000 years of captivity, only to wish the efreet to be his slave ("I wish for you to be my slave"). The way I handled this was basicly give him a ring of djinni calling with the said efreet bound to it and have 24 hours / every other day as the per summon limit. The advice I need with this player, is how to machinate the efreet's espace from this captivity and inflict great pain for this treachery.
The player character did send the efreet to fetch one other player character from a faraway place, and during that time, the efreet asked that person to steal the ring and in return would grant this person everything he ever desires (the person fetched was neutral evil wizard). But besides this, I could really use some help on how to free this extremely powerful being from the clutches of a lvl 6 chaotic evil character.
note: the party is all evil aligned, from lawful evils to chaotic evils, and on lvl 6.
Thanks.
Ok concernign the 1st player in question who wished to be invulnerable. He did not specify what he is invulnerable to so the Efreet can freely chose what it is. As a DM using this monster to grant wishes id make the player invulnerable to oxygen and/or gravity. He either chokes to death and/or shoots straight into space.
The other wisher who wished for the poor creature to be its slave is simple. The wisher did not specify for how long the wishy would be enslaved thus it could be for 1 sec, 1 min, 1 hour, 1, year, ext, ext.
When granting wishes for players by the means of a creature then u must act accordingly to the one granting the wish. A CE wish granter will turn any wish it grants as it sees fit while keeping in the parameters of the words of the wish. Example: I long ago had an Efreet grant one of my players a wish. He wished for all of his stats to be raised. I asked him his he sure this will be his only wish. He said yes. So i had all of his stats razed, set on fire, as he wished. I told him to hand me his character sheet so i can raze his stats and he did. I proceed to take my lighter out of my pocket and burned his character sheet in front of him and explained why i did so. Leason be this, to twist a wish, is to nit pick at it and grant it as the creature would. Some ask for there stats to be raised the raze them, if some ask to be invulnerable then make them so to gravity, if they ask for the wisher to be enslaved to them then allow it for 1 sec. If there is no specific parameter set then it is merely up to the wish granter to set it. Now if it was a LG or NG granting then this would not happen but its an E a CE of all things.
Me im smarter not to ask for a wish that does not favor the wisher in said circumstances. Usually when i get a wish it is "I wish for no harm to occur to me, <Character Name>, in any way, shape, and form from any source that has any knowledge of the wish granter in the past, present or future including the wish granter and those that have knowledge of those that know of those that have knowledge of the wish granter it self be it intentional and/or accidental in any way imaginable and/or plausible by a sentient and non-sentient beings from any dimension that has and ever will exist in this and any other time period and if such harm is to occur then the one granting me, <Character Name>, my wish should for ever be dammed to the deepest part of the Abbys and be trapped there to know no contact of any one and any thing until the end of time it self." Meaning dare harm me in any way and u go by by. The 1st DM i ever sprung that wish on literally had the monster look at me with a lock of dam human scum and said "Very well then ur wish is granted" and proceeded to accompany me through out the entire dungeon since all the creatures new of the Efreet's existence and safely guarded me out side.
So who actually casts the wish spell, the genie or the wisher?
Because if it is the genie making the wish, it doesn't matter how the wisher words it.
If the genie is the one making the wish (and can only do so when someone comes to it to ask for a wish one would assume), then why is it still bound to an item and in it's current situation when the first time some idiot showed up it could have wished itself free? Unless the genie is just doing it for the lulz...
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@TriOmegaZero
Sorry was fixing typos and finding the paper of listed wishes i have and ever will make on characters and its exact wording. Its been almost 20 years since i made that wish. The paper has the time, date, and DM's name, along with the character receiving the wish for when i last asked for that wish. I also pointed out to the Efreet that harming my allies would harm me emotionally and endanger my chances of survival so the Efreet did not make there wishes back fire on them. If i recall correctly though all there wishes were reasonable. I know for a fact though that the Elf Bard wished for his "member" to be 12 inches long when fully erect. Best use of wish ever lol.
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@TriOmegaZero
That is an interesting question to ask. One would assume that the one granting the wish would be the one casting the wish. It also can be seen as a cursed use magic item that can be activated by any one meeting the certain parameters of its use. The curse being that the object is prison for the creature inside and can not be set free until it grants the wish of the one that used it. The question would be better asked by the one that introduced the lore of genies and the creators that decided to have this be in the game being the original WoTC people. Next best person to ask would be JJ.
As I see it, it works something in the line of the sorcerer archetype Wishcrafter.
Whatever is stated by the recipient of the wish, is a component in the wish.
There is no doubt that the genie is the one actually using a Wish ability. However, they are not casting the spell, but 'granting a wish (to a non-genie).
The wording plays fairly well towards the classic understanding of a genie granting whatever wish, another person formulate.
This does not fit the standard spell Wish, where the caster states something. But why should it?
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1st wisher : Unwoundable should apply to his psychological state too. His heart is slowly turning into metaphoric Adamantine.
He finds it harder and harder to care about anything (power, wealth, quests, even mere survival) or anyone (party buddies, enemies, loved ones). He loses all attachments and slowly turns True Neutral.
2nd wisher : The Efreet has family !!! They might have been unable to deal with his previous master or to liberate him from his prison but now that he has been freed from it, they are honorbound to help him retain his freedom. And this new "master" does not seem as powerful as the previous one was. Ploys could include masquerading as the Efreet slave (they all look the same to the PCs anyway).
Who said it should?
None did.
It was meant as a shrug, not an accusation.
There are of course "schools of thought" when it comes to granting wishes. We've seen them all at play here.
"Old School" - hose the bugger over if the wish is worded poorly.
"Minimal Effort to Grant Result" - stick as close to the spell description regardless.
"Run with that Byotch until the Tears Flow!" - take the intent of the wish and spin that bad boy into a campaign arc/mini-arc.
Which one you go with depends on the inclination of the GM.
I'm sure there are other 'schools of thought'. ;-)
Freeze him in carbonite. He should be quite well protected.
"I am altering the [Wish], pray I don't alter it any further." -Efreet
Turn him into an adamantite statue.
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There are of course "schools of thought" when it comes to granting wishes. We've seen them all at play here.
"Old School" - hose the bugger over if the wish is worded poorly.
"Minimal Effort to Grant Result" - stick as close to the spell description regardless.
"Run with that Byotch until the Tears Flow!" - take the intent of the wish and spin that bad boy into a campaign arc/mini-arc.
Which one you go with depends on the inclination of the GM.
I'm sure there are other 'schools of thought'. ;-)
Normally with wish I use the conservation of energy rule (your second option) in this case though it's a wish granted by an evil agenda, so if the creature 'exerting itself' to get the wisher more in his debt works, I can picture the being exerting the 'additional power'.
"Oh, this is not what you wanted? You must be more specific. Please, my powers were exhausted providing your wish summon my brother, and he can undo it."
Meanwhile he's thinking, "Yes foolish Mortal, summon my Brother to your world to undo your silly wish. Restore my power to me and then suffer as we both take our time killing you before we wreck delightful suffering on this puny world."
