Silence Spell

[Goran Vukić]

When does the will save applies?

For example:
Cleric casts the silence on a stone and throws the silenced stone at the feet of a wizard?
Does the wizard get a Will save to cast a spell with verbal component?
Or he cannot cast spells with verbal component at all (until he leaves the area of the spell)?

Similar example:
Cleric casts the silence spell on a willing monk.
The monk attacks the enemy wizard and grapples him.
Does the wizard get a will save to cast a spell with verbal component?
Or are the only spells the wizard can cast in this situation silenced spells (using silent spell metamagic feat)?

[Mauril]

To my understanding the Will save only comes if you try to cast it directly on an unwilling target.

[meabolex]

Goran Vukić wrote:

Does the wizard get a Will save to cast a spell with verbal component?

No.

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Or he cannot cast spells with verbal component at all (until he leaves the area of the spell)?

He cannot.

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Does the wizard get a will save to cast a spell with verbal component?

No.

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Or are the only spells the wizard can cast in this situation silenced spells (using silent spell metamagic feat)?

Or spells without verbal components (gaseous form).

[Goran Vukić]

Thanks for the info!

Our group always gave the spellcaster a will save, fearing misuse of the silence spell.
We used the spell mostly for sneaking and secrecy.

[Mauril]

With the rounds/level duration, it's not that useful for sneaking anymore. It was great for sneaking in 3.5, when it was minutes/level. My group discovered this after trying to use Silence to sneak into a fortified castle. Thirty seconds (in-game) after we cast it, the GM let us know that we were making noise again.