the craft that will one day be called Silver Mountain crashes into Numeria. Whatever alien life is aboard does a quick scan of the planet, learns that humans are the primary intelligent species, and thus morphs the robots/Gearsmen into a roughly humanoid appearance. Realizing that this mimicry is absolutely not fooling anyone, the aliens take some time to forge a more delicate approximation of humanity. Thus, androids.
And now we have to wonder if there's an aboleth/gillmen dynamic going on here, with the still-living aliens deep in the Silver Mount using the androids for some far-off and arcane function.
Also, Alling Third, the lich-in-a-jar with the robot spider legs from the Carrion Crown entry on important liches ties in somewhere, because reasons. I've still been trying to find a way to shoehorn him into my campaign, just to see the gaping open mouths on my players' faces when the Cyborg Reaper from Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sunshows up and begins hucking meteor swarm around.
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Depends if someone out there's making them... although it'd probably be called something other than an android if it doesn't look human. Since that's kinda the whole point of an android.Well, what if whatever made the android doesn't look human itself? Why would, for example, the Elder Things make an android that looked human?
An elder thing artificial replicant wouldn't look human, and as such wouldn't be an android. It would be called something else.
:( Oh well, lol.I want to play an android magus. My question would be, can they keep a digital copy of their spellbook in memory? Not to cast on the fly from, but so that they never lose their spellbook. Like their study time each night looks like a trance as they retrieve spells from storage for use the next day.Nope; an android's memory works as well as a human's memory, more or less. An android magus or wizard has to keep a spellbook.
However I have an idea to help:
Take the spell mastery feat and just flavor it as a digital copy in their memory. Seems like a perfect feat for an android to me.
It was the creation of one of the first alchemists, which despised it´s fleshform, overcame his master and found a way to moce his sentience into mechanic devices, evolving over time and building a swarm of minions that you now know as robots and androids. It also build that spaceship and countless others that didn´t arrive yet and decided to exterminate his masters race eventually, just for being so imperfect and puny and fleshy.
You may call it Omnius and you will totally serve it´s schemes, willing or unwillingly, knowing or unknowingly.
At the moment though it floats bodyless through the multiverse on the search for a new shell, so it can further it´s own plot.
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It seems unlikely, though certainly not impossible, that any living thing on the Silver Mount would still be alive in 4713 AR. To begin with, the ship fell apart pretty badly as it crashed; the chunk outside Starfall is just the biggest piece, and all of Numeria was littered with enough debris that they've been harvesting it for centuries without running out. Perhaps more importantly, the "Rain of Stars" took place some time in the distant, mythic past, before there were any literate humans around to write about it.
Now, considering that the Kellid still seem to be mostly illiterate (since their language, Hallit, has no written form), the crash could theoretically have happened relatively recently (say, within the last thousand years). However, the Taldan Second Army of Exploration marched through the region circa 499 AR, and as far as I know no subsequent explorers or settlers reported discovering a giant mountain of metal no one had noticed before.
So if there was anything still alive in the Silver Mount after it crashed, it's probably been in there now for more than four thousand years. In some ways, it's more comforting to think that the production of androids and robots since then has been the work of some kind of self-maintaining machine with a very long-lasting power source.
The alternative is that there's something in there with the endurance to survive the passage of millennia and the patience to avoid making itself known during that time. Assuming it's not trapped somehow, it would be a pretty safe guess that it's planning something... something that's been in the works for longer than all but a few human nations have existed.
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The alternative is that there's something in there with the endurance to survive the passage of millennia and the patience to avoid making itself known during that time. Assuming it's not trapped somehow, it would be a pretty safe guess that it's planning something... something that's been in the works for longer than all but a few human nations have existed.
Alternately, shipwreck haunted by alien ghosts. :)
A Bone Sage from Eox would be tempting to place inside the shipwreck. On the other hand, I believe that it was established that the starship came from outside the star system. Maybe something on the run from the Dominion of the Black?
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yeah....but android has specific connotations that mean "robot that looks like a humanoid"
More specifically, Android is the term for a robot resembling a male.
I prefer Gynoid myself. :P
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Synthoid is the Androgynous Term IIRC.
I suppose an Elder Thing synthoid would be a... crinoidoid? :)
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Re: Long dead... remember things like stasis pods might be in there. The technology was available to Ancients for us Stargate fans.
Hmm, imagine android memories being damaged or incomplete recordings of ancient (if not Ancient) crew members in a stasis/VR environment.
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Interesting thought came to mind, does anyone think that an android is a lot like a person with asperger syndrome? Face blindness, unique intelligence, difficulties interacting with others. Interesting match.
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I'm currently playing an Android in a Post apocalyptic Earth. Been having a pretty good time with the character. My GM did nerf me a little, but that was fine. I don't have as many saves. It's kinda fun, because my Android is a cleric and her "God" is actually Siri from the iPhone lol. It became a bit more advanced before nukes went off and destroyed most of everything. It managed to become aware and upload itself into the Spy satellites. Now, years after the bombs people have come out and because of some other events, magic was introduced to Earth. So, the magic gave me life and I worship Siri =)
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Can my Android explode people's heads with his mind?
Also are Androids exclusively Human? Can I have an android in the form of a tiefling, dwarf, elf, or orc?
Is an Android capable of changing it's physique?
Does the android needs its skin or is that merely cosmetic?
Why do androids look humanoid?
By the book:
No, that would be Scanners...
I think it would work, but check with you GM
Interesting. Lets see your thoughts. And please show your work.
Because the book sez so? In my game your odd points would by nifty tweaks that I would love to work in!
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Can my Android explode people's heads with his mind?Also are Androids exclusively Human? Can I have an android in the form of a tiefling, dwarf, elf, or orc?
Is an Android capable of changing it's physique?
Does the android needs its skin or is that merely cosmetic?
Why do androids look humanoid?
If your android has the right magic or tech.
Yes; part of what defines an android is that it looks human. A synthetic humanoid built to look like something other than a human might have very similar stats, but it would NOT be called an android.
No more so than humans can.
An android needs its skin as much as a human does.
They look humanoid because that's the definition of what an android is. If it didn't it'd be something else. Like a robot or a cyborg or a synthetic humanoid or whatever.
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Will we have a level 1 Detect Android spell?
Can we have RAW rules for using Sense Motive to detect androids when they interact with other races?
Will we ever have an Android prestige class or archetype that gives them all the juicy robotic features we crave, like endless memory, cybernetic eyes, fortified steel skeletal systems, immunity to bleed, implanted weaponry, etc?
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Will we have a level 1 Detect Android spell?
Can we have RAW rules for using Sense Motive to detect androids when they interact with other races?
Will we ever have an Android prestige class or archetype that gives them all the juicy robotic features we crave, like endless memory, cybernetic eyes, fortified steel skeletal systems, immunity to bleed, implanted weaponry, etc?
No plans yet for a detect android spell.
The RAW rules is a Sense Motive check versus the android's Bluff check when it specifically attempts to pass as human via speaking, or a Perception check versus the android's Disguise check when it tries to physically trick you.
Probably not. That sounds more like cybernetics, and while that type of thing might be easier for an android to use... it's not an android-specific thing.
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Someone should make an Android Cavalier, and have its mount be a sentient Segway or motorcycle.
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Someone should make an Android Cavalier, and have its mount be a sentient Segway or motorcycle.
...android cavalier/renegade Red Mantis Assassin.
With a scarf.
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After watching IM3, I think it would be funny now to play a snarky Oracle with the tongues curse, who switches to 2400 baud modem when in combat, and even when out of combat will occasionally end a sentence with the wrong cranberry.
IM3?
After watching IM3, I think it would be funny now to play a snarky Oracle with the tongues curse, who switches to 2400 baud modem when in combat, and even when out of combat will occasionally end a sentence with the wrong cranberry.
Lol, gotta love J.A.R.V.I.S.
12) That's a question for the religious scholars to freak out about.
12. Would outsiders born from android souls inherit some of their artificial nature? Outlook quirks or circuitry aesthetics?
They go to Silicone Heven. However they will always reassure non androids that they too have sould so the fleshbags don't go mad.
Only if your Android's name is Kid Rock.
I think androids are awesome, and I love them in Alien, Blade Runner and Star Trek.
But I'm kinda sad they exist in Golarion. To me they have no place in a fantasy rpg. I like magic, dragons and medieval flavor in a fantasy rpg, and I know a lot of people agree.
Imo if paizo wanted to add this "cyberpunk" stuff they should have made a seperate campaign setting for it.
I think of them are Artificial Humanoid Bodies that are fueled by Magic and Alchemy. Sort of like the Artificial Humanoid Soldiers from Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood.
Also I just here recently got to watch Iron Man and Iron Man 2 all the way through so don't blame me.
But if you rename Pathfinder as post-apocalypse instead of "medieval" fantasy (with guns) it fits much better.
That said, it's still a bad idea to introduce nanites to the setting. Not so much as what they do as the implications that nanotech is available/doable will lead to a chain of logic/rolls that lets PCs begin building genocidal disassembler swarms.
The Nanites I see more as alien constructs that work as the Android's Blood. They only carry Oxygen, Fight Disease, and Stop Bleeding. The Nanite Surge is simply a sudden increase in either active Nanites or the Nanite flow speeding up. Similar to a controlled Adrenaline Burst that some Martial Artists can perform.
But if you rename Pathfinder as post-apocalypse instead of "medieval" fantasy (with guns) it fits much better.
That said, it's still a bad idea to introduce nanites to the setting. Not so much as what they do as the implications that nanotech is available/doable will lead to a chain of logic/rolls that lets PCs begin building genocidal disassembler swarms.
Nanites have been in the setting since the very first module ever set in Golarion. It's far too late now.
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But if you rename Pathfinder as post-apocalypse instead of "medieval" fantasy (with guns) it fits much better.
That said, it's still a bad idea to introduce nanites to the setting. Not so much as what they do as the implications that nanotech is available/doable will lead to a chain of logic/rolls that lets PCs begin building genocidal disassembler swarms.
We've actually kinda had nanites in the game since the 3rd module we published about 6 years ago... "Seven Swords of Sin." James Sutter's a big fan of mixing sci-fi with fantasy. The point is... the nanites are already hear and the game survived... ;P
I'd totally play some kind of infiltrator type. "Hu-man I am simply wishing to learn of your emotions and reactions so that I and my brethren can better live amongst you."
We've actually kinda had nanites in the game since the 3rd module we published about 6 years ago... "Seven Swords of Sin." James Sutter's a big fan of mixing sci-fi with fantasy. The point is... the nanites are already hear and the game survived... ;PBut if you rename Pathfinder as post-apocalypse instead of "medieval" fantasy (with guns) it fits much better.
That said, it's still a bad idea to introduce nanites to the setting. Not so much as what they do as the implications that nanotech is available/doable will lead to a chain of logic/rolls that lets PCs begin building genocidal disassembler swarms.
So what would be the research DCs for spells to harvest, modify and replicate* nanobots? How useful would a wand of Divination be in this
The main modifications would be to disassemble, fabricate, scout and augment. Scout would require them to return/report to a crystal ball or other such thing.
*Ideally make them self-replicating, not full grey goo but accidents happen.
Are all androids on Golarion male-shaped or are there gynoids as well?
The example over on d20pfsrd is female. But as they are synthetic, I'd assume more or less all of their appearance is cosmetic. While we can get really pedantic on "android" the idea of a synthetic life form that mimics human means it should not be hard to also make one that looks like a dwarf or lizard-man or a human with six arms or an integrated sickle or no head with sensory organs/apparatus elsewhere.
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So what would be the research DCs for spells to harvest, modify and replicate* nanobots? How useful would a wand of Divination be in this
The main modifications would be to disassemble, fabricate, scout and augment. Scout would require them to return/report to a crystal ball or other such thing.
The research DCs are not yet ready... but it's easier to use technology crafting feats and skills than magic crafting ones. And tech craft feats are also not yet ready for print either. Maybe some day...
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The research DCs are not yet ready... but it's easier to use technology crafting feats and skills than magic crafting ones. And tech craft feats are also not yet ready for print either. Maybe some day...So what would be the research DCs for spells to harvest, modify and replicate* nanobots? How useful would a wand of Divination be in this
The main modifications would be to disassemble, fabricate, scout and augment. Scout would require them to return/report to a crystal ball or other such thing.
Here's the thing. Magic is technology. It works in the same empirical way. Sure there's a bunch of stuff about how you need the proper stats/family to do it. But, if I spend the time memorizing a teleport spell every day, and every day I teleport to the same place with the same word, with the same margin of error. It is science.
The things I've been talking about squirming into a Pathfinder game with uses of spells: mass drivers, space stations, nano swarms, thnk tanks (high level mage uses a lot of simulacrum spells, they use lots of divination magic) using magic to emulate tech skills long enough to cast fabricate etc....
They're all just noodling around. None of them do what Sci-Fi should be doing. Which is exploring ideas and what a society is like when things change or certain ideas are the norm. You don't need to add nanobabble to do that in a game. Adding tech will largely just be more numbers to keep track of and eventurally just another way to get a +# to something or for a class to attack or defend or whatnot.
One thing I found confusing is the "counts as a humanoid and construct." The android listing says Humanoid (Android). So that means they are a unique humanoid and will not count as a humanoid if attacked by a ranger with humanoid (human) as their favored enemy. Very few NPCs or players will take humanoid (android) targeted abilities. So the main concern is construct targeted abilities. That's how I read it.
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One thing I found confusing is the "counts as a humanoid and construct." The android listing says Humanoid (Android). So that means they are a unique humanoid and will not count as a humanoid if attacked by a ranger with humanoid (human) as their favored enemy. Very few NPCs or players will take humanoid (android) targeted abilities. So the main concern is construct targeted abilities. That's how I read it.
Depends on the campaign.
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One thing I found confusing is the "counts as a humanoid and construct." The android listing says Humanoid (Android). So that means they are a unique humanoid and will not count as a humanoid if attacked by a ranger with humanoid (human) as their favored enemy. Very few NPCs or players will take humanoid (android) targeted abilities. So the main concern is construct targeted abilities. That's how I read it.Depends on the campaign.
Now I'm thinking Bladerunner.