What if the Kickstarter does not reach $1M?


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plopmania wrote:

In order to try and cheer you people up, I dug this line from the Kickstarter's FAQ:

"Of the projects that have reached 60% of their funding goal, 98% were successfully funded."

Two percent is only like... *counts with fingers, loaning a hand here, another from there* one out of fifty! We have the odds :)

Never tell me the odds.

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Don't forget about us, the ones that are not affected by Xmas period, weird annual property taxes (we have monthly property taxes), and other silly timed taxing periods. There are many of us that have plenty $ to through at this project, but unable to do until we have a client in order to add plenty nice add-ons.

I have pledge at $100 to get the PDF super pack. I would like to pledge about another $300, but unable to so. With less than 36 hours to weekend, it is looking very bleak that I would be able to up my pledge.

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DarkOne, I doubt that you awaiting an announcement about Amiga compatibility or that you are intending to play on Wii-U? I don't want you to feel that anyone is forgetting about you, but I am not sure what it is you are actually looking for.

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Fulcrum wrote:
DarkOne, I doubt that you awaiting an announcement about Amiga compatibility or that you are intending to play on Wii-U? I don't want you to feel that anyone is forgetting about you, but I am not sure what it is you are actually looking for.

Linux Client. And Linux people are pretty darn generous in donating towards games for their OS. Just look at any Humble Indie Bundle.

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I thought the NeXT was cool when it was released. It strikes me that the Linux folk are kind of like the NeXTers of yesteryear (certain of their superiority, but vastly outnumbered). For that reason, I hope that the Linux folks get what they want. Whether they have money or not, respect for the NeXT just seems due.

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I am fairly certain that Linux support will be added but it depends more on the Unity's development schedule. I doubt Goblinworks is willing to start hacking support for the platform when their middleware has one in the pipeline.
And that being said, I am willing to bet (without revealing the odds, mind) that Goblinworks is furiously trying to figure out, how to present the future promise of Linux support in the most appealing form.

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Fulcrum wrote:
I thought the NeXT was cool when it was released. It strikes me that the Linux folk are kind of like the NeXTers of yesteryear (certain of their superiority, but vastly outnumbered). For that reason, I hope that the Linux folks get what they want. Whether they have money or not, respect for the NeXT just seems due.

I'm pretty sure NeXT isn't getting Steam support. =P


plopmania wrote:

In order to try and cheer you people up, I dug this line from the Kickstarter's FAQ:

"Of the projects that have reached 60% of their funding goal, 98% were successfully funded."

Two percent is only like... *counts with fingers, loaning a hand here, another from there* one out of fifty! We have the odds :)

As Han solo once said, "Never tell me the odds.".

Our D20 on this could still come up a 1 or a 2.

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Just about to hit 70% $699,876


$299,454 to go!

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

If there was a way to reserve some of the add-ons for post-tax season I would pledge more.

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There is lag between KS and the sidewall representation.

Unless someone backed out again?


They may only need a few days extension if possible because it is getting dam close.

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Nope: $701,021 now

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Go go go! Make it happen!!

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SuperSlayer wrote:
They may only need a few days extension if possible because it is getting dam close.

Is there such a thing? I've never heard of an extension on Kickstarter before.

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oh the suspence!

go go PFO!

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It went up $10k in half an hour a few hours ago. We need 30 more of those. =)

I don't think I ever realized how much a million dollars is.

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lol... I go to bed last night and it was about $667K and now it is over $700K. That is a nice surprise.

Scarab Sages Goblinworks Executive Founder

And they say that most KS get about 1/3 of their total funding in the last 72 hours which would be just enough to put us over $1Mill with an extra 24 hours on top of that :)

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@ Dakcenturi
I keep seeing that statistic but never a source. Where did you get that info please?

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I always thought it was the last 48 hours not 72.

But @Mine all mine...don't touch - The idea behind that is basicaly Kickstarter send out an e-mail too all the people who hit the remind me later button when the timer drops down to 48 or 72 hours (can't remember which). So all these people that thought the project sounded interesting but didn't pledge right away get a reminder. It is at this point most kickstarters see a huge boost in pledges. Look at kicktraq for some projects that were already funded. Shadowrun Online is one example, notice the sharp spike in pledges at the end.

Shadowrun Online

another one to look at

Kingdom Death Monster

Both had huge spikes at the end and there are a lot more just like this.

Scarab Sages Goblinworks Executive Founder

Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:

@ Dakcenturi

I keep seeing that statistic but never a source. Where did you get that info please?

Hehe I don't have a direct source aside from watching previous projects.

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that Shadowrun curve for the trend looks somewhat familiar to PFO

Scarab Sages Goblinworks Executive Founder

Some more:

Z.
Solforge
Salem
Forsaken Fortress

Assistant Software Developer

I removed an uncivil post.

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I missed the Shadowrun Online Kickstarter. Was over when I found out about it. Too bad, I loved playing Shadowrun when I was in high school. But that will be a game I will be looking for when it comes out.

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Project Godus

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Good to see Project Godus got funded. I enjoyed playing Populus back when it first came out. The last 48 hour spike I have seen on many projects, especially game projects.

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The PFO curve does seem similar to some of those.

One thing to note is that generally projects that have already met their funding goal tend to get less of a last minute bump than those that are in danger of not making it.

The examples given so far in the thread that seem to most closely match PFO's Kickstarter are Z. and Shadowrun Online. Neither would have been funded if not for the last few days of their run.

Z. was asking for $100k. They made ~$50k or roughly 40% of their total funding the last 3 days of their kickstarter.

Shadowrun Online was asking for $500k. They made ~$209k or about 37% of their total funding in the last 2 days of their kickstarter.

If PFO's kickstarter has similar performance the last 2 or 3 days, they will have more than adequate funding to meet their goal.

My two worries are 1.that $1 million is a lot of money, and there may be an upper bound on how much you can expect to take in within a limited time frame, and 2. as they are so fond of saying in the world of financial markets, "past performance is not a guarantee of future results".

Dark Archive Goblin Squad Member

I would point out two things the spike was actually not the last 48 hours but a day or two before that and none of these projects were looking for 1,000,000$. It may not be apples to oranges but it also is not all that similar either.


If everyone who has already pledged were to pledge $52 more the project would be fully funded without additional backers. $52 while not insignificant does seem manageable. Perhaps a better way to go about driving rather than relying on new donors.

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The Outlaw Josie Whales wrote:
If everyone who has already pledged were to pledge $52 more the project would be fully funded without additional backers. $52 while not insignificant does seem manageable. Perhaps a better way to go about driving rather than relying on new donors.

That's what the Add-ons have been about.

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The problem for some of us there hasn't been anything all that tempting.


The Outlaw Josie Whales wrote:

If everyone who has already pledged were to pledge $52 more the project would be fully funded without additional backers. $52 while not insignificant does seem manageable. Perhaps a better way to go about driving rather than relying on new donors.

Hence all the add-ons. I know I've nearly tripled my pledge with add-on benefits this week.

Scarab Sages Goblinworks Executive Founder

A lot of people may have also put in an initial pledge and then plan to come back near the end when everything is available (all the addons, etc) and up their pledges at that point.

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I just more than doubled my pledge for the in game add-ons. I want to add another $200 for more game time and the rpg print pack but just can't afford it right now.


Drakhan Valane wrote:
The Outlaw Josie Whales wrote:
If everyone who has already pledged were to pledge $52 more the project would be fully funded without additional backers. $52 while not insignificant does seem manageable. Perhaps a better way to go about driving rather than relying on new donors.
That's what the Add-ons have been about.

Ya I wasn't trying to be smart ass but rather motivating in that $296,000 while a lot isn't as daunting as it may seem to others

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I am trying to scrape together the extra 75 for a buddy level and get two of each mini. Alas life is not cooperating.

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I put in all I could up front. I'll see after tomorrow if I can afford more.

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The Outlaw Josie Whales wrote:
Drakhan Valane wrote:
The Outlaw Josie Whales wrote:
If everyone who has already pledged were to pledge $52 more the project would be fully funded without additional backers. $52 while not insignificant does seem manageable. Perhaps a better way to go about driving rather than relying on new donors.
That's what the Add-ons have been about.
Ya I wasn't trying to be smart ass but rather motivating in that $296,000 while a lot isn't as daunting as it may seem to others

And when one factors is the "invisible" pledgers in buddy and guild levels, the per capita is reduced down to ~43 :)

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Go go go!

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Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:
It may not be apples to oranges but it also is not all that similar either.

More like Red Delicious versus Granny Smith.

-Skeld

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I on the verge of quadrupling my pledge, but still waiting for GW to give me the go ahead to do it. Basically less than 12 hours to go to get an answer.

Scarab Sages Goblinworks Executive Founder

DarkOne the Drow wrote:
I on the verge of quadrupling my pledge, but still waiting for GW to give me the go ahead to do it. Basically less than 12 hours to go to get an answer.

You might try messaging them through the KS page. Maybe they can give you a more direct answer then they can give as a whole to the community.


DarkOne the Drow wrote:
I on the verge of quadrupling my pledge, but still waiting for GW to give me the go ahead to do it. Basically less than 12 hours to go to get an answer.

If I were you I would not hold my breath on Linux support, if they do not announce it with in the next day they are most likely not going to announce it. unity does not support Linux yet. unity devs are working on Linux support for unity so that is most likely when PFO will support Linux.

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So, couldn't fall asleep so I did some little scripting to give you all one page more to hit refresh on. It is the ugliest site in the world and serves no purpose at all.
Now that I got that done, maybe I'll finally get my 4 hours of sleep.

www.vjn.fi/pfo

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plopmania wrote:

So, couldn't fall asleep so I did some little scripting to give you all one page more to hit refresh on. It is the ugliest site in the world and serves no purpose at all.

Now that I got that done, maybe I'll finally get my 4 hours of sleep.

www.vjn.fi/pfo

Heey. I've seen far uglier sites than that.

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It's not ugly. It's just white :)


Being wrote:
SuperSlayer wrote:
They may only need a few days extension if possible because it is getting dam close.
Is there such a thing? I've never heard of an extension on Kickstarter before.

No. Once your time is up, that's it. They don't even allow people to raise their pledge to put the project over the top. There's a famous example of a game that fell $28 short, people asked to be allowed to pledge the extra amount, KS said "NO!"

They make their rules, and enforce them. On everyone.

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