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David knott 242 wrote:

So what class are you? If we change the assumptions about how you are buffing your eidolon, the best builds would change as well. An eidolon for a non-summoner would be an interesting challenge as it would be totally outside what we usually think about.

Im a Half orc Sorcerer Of the Draconic and Orcish bloodlines


Im attempting to create a Kirito Build for pathfinder.

Just want to toss some ideas around.

Im thinking either Some kind of rogue or two weapon warrior build

Any ideas on feats n stuff in much appreciated


Derklord wrote:
Usumari wrote:
I'm not inclined to waste feats on extra evolutions.

*blink blink* Waste... a feat... what? That feat ist rather strong, although I guess a Sorcerer has more competition in the feat slots than a Summoner does. Also, holy s$~!, does your GM know what he's doing? Sorcerer with a I presume full progression Eidolon would be very powerful.

What level are we talking about? And does the eidolon follow all the normal eidolon rules?

Ok, so the important thing: Focus on the visible stuff first. Presuming you're talking standard european dragon, quadruped+wings+tail are the most important things. Flavor wise, breath attack can be pretty important. Every thing else is basically secondary, with stuff like frightful presence and blindsense being tertiary.

Look through your desired kind of dragon thorugh different age categories on d20pfsrd.com and try to stay relatively close. For isntance, the natural attack progression is Bite + 2 Claws, than later Wings and only after that the Tail Slap. SR and Frightful Presense only appear at mostly young adult age, that's about 13HD (which translates to a lvl17 Eidolon).

My eidolon will constantly be 1 lvl behind me


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Usumari wrote:
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:

Don't try to get the complete dragon package... go for the essentials, the feet, the the bite, the tail, and of course the wings. You'll have the basic look, and the melee attacks, and the flying mount.

After that, you have to prioritize the extras.

What would you recommend then?

My Evolutonist summoner had a functional flying drake like mount with bite attacks, claw attacks, a tail slap and wing buffet attacks. He would also use evolution surge to occasionally give it a breath weapon and he was riding it at 8th level.

I wouldn't recommend anything in particular because it's pretty hard to fail at being a Summoner unless you really try.

Unfortunetly I'm not a summoner I was given an eidolon due to some story aspects so I cant get all fancy with it.


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:

Don't try to get the complete dragon package... go for the essentials, the feet, the the bite, the tail, and of course the wings. You'll have the basic look, and the melee attacks, and the flying mount.

After that, you have to prioritize the extras.

What would you recommend then?


Just a Mort wrote:
SR is overated. A lot of the summoner is about buffing his eid, and SR gets in the way. There's extra evolution feat for more evo points, and half elf FCB lets you add evo points.

I'm a Half-orc sorcerer who was able to get an eidolon because of story elements so I don't have access to the fcb and I'm not inclined to waste feats on extra evolutions.


Hi I'm new to pathfinder and I'm trying to make a Large Dragon Mount for my Human to ride around on. I just need some help picking evolutions that fit the dragon theme.

Some of my ideas are.

claws
tail
tail slap
blindsense
breath weapon
flight
frightful presence
immunity
magic attacks
spell resistance
wing buffet
large
mount

but this sadly goes over the 26 points I get I just need help with what to get.


Saethori wrote:
If the idea is to make it like a dragon, I would start at looking at the feats big dragons typically get and work from there.

This worked out great thanks alot


Hi I'm relatively new to pathfinder and need some help with feats for my eidolon. I'm trying to make it look like a dragon(I know I'm not very original). I have my evolutions and stuff I just don't know what feats to get any help would really be appreciated