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If I have a touch spell active and I'm attacked, can crane wing legitimately transfer the touch spell?
If so does that mean it is an automatic hit each round without the need of an attack roll?
Holding the Charge: If you don't discharge the spell in the round when you cast the spell, you can hold the charge indefinitely. You can continue to make touch attacks round after round. If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges.
Would appear the spell goes off immediately, but Id probably still have you roll to see if it hits the person attacking.
If I have a touch spell active and I'm attacked, can crane wing legitimately transfer the touch spell?
I don't think this should count any more than it would if you deflected an arrow. Also, it doesn't seem like a creature hitting you should discharge the spell either, even though there may have been physical contact. (Since there are spells that specifically work that way, with significant costs)
There's a somewhat related FAQ request post here: Combat Maneuvers and held charges of touch spells. If we got a full response to that, maybe it would also include things like deflection and other acts that involve partial contact.
It could be argued that a hand used to hold a touch spell is not "free" as required for Crane Wing.
Assuming it does count as free, no mention is made in the text of the discharge of touch spells, either offensively (the attacker had a held charge) nor defensively (the defender/deflector had a held charge). Because of this, I'd personally rule that none of the held charges are discharged but remain held. YMMV.
See also this thread. And this one too. Oh, and James Jacobs said this.
It could be argued that a hand used to hold a touch spell is not "free" as required for Crane Wing.
Here's a FAQ request to find out if the charge of a touch spell is held in any particular limb.
Sadly, I can't add to that FAQ request. Not intending to derail this thread, but I think the answer is "Yes, where the charge is held is determined at the time of casting." Otherwise, touch attackers with multiple natural attacks can rely on one of the many attacks hitting without worrying about precisely wich one it was. I can imagine a Tiefling witch with prehensile hair, a bite, two claws and a prehensile tail but a lousy strength thinking that if she doesn't have to designate, that at least ONE of those many attacks will hit.
Personally I also think that the spell would go off as well. From the FAQ it seems as though it would. And also I think that the hand that is holding the spell would be considered free if I were capable of using it to retrieve a potion or weapons from my person.
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Personally I also think that the spell would go off as well. From the FAQ it seems as though it would. And also I think that the hand that is holding the spell would be considered free if I were capable of using it to retrieve a potion or weapons from my person.
"If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges" would imply that you aren't actually capable of retrieving a potion or drawing a weapon. Magus gets a specific exception that allows him to grab his weapon, but most other characters would just burst their potions or scorch their weapon handles, wouldn't they?
Exactly. Which is why I think that if I'm deflecting (touching) an attackers melee attack with my charged hand they would "burst" or "scorch" as well.
Well, Crane Wing works against one melee weapon attack - so you're at best touching the weapon, not the attacker.
So if it were ruled to work, the spell would be affecting the weapon, and effects would depend on the weapon and so forth.
Well, Crane Wing works against one melee weapon attack - so you're at best touching the weapon, not the attacker.
So if it were ruled to work, the spell would be affecting the weapon, and effects would depend on the weapon and so forth.
Well sure, if you emphasize the word weapon it would seem that way.
If you emphasize the word attack then it just means you are deflecting his attack that involves him using a melee weapon. You can deflect and attack by hitting the arm wielding the attack, correct me if im wrong but would hitting his weapon away be a parry?