Shattering enchantment?


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The Earthenflail weapon, notes it has the Shattering enchantment.

What, and where is the Shattering enchantment?


I have no fuarking clue, I can't find it.

I'd guess it does extra damage to crystals since it requires Shatter to make.

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Is there some other enchantment that is meant to be there?

Was it intended to be in Ultimate Equipment?

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Nothing?


based on the description it obviously has something to do with damaging objects... perhaps it should work like the 3.5 weapon enhancement "Sundering" (wielder gets the effects of the improved sunder feat and the weapon deals + 1d6 damage to objects).

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Well, this certainly need some errata.

Please hit the FAQ button next to the original post.

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I asked James Jacobs, and I got a "great question for Rules Forum" response.


Based on the "suppressed" effect of the enchantment, a safe bet would be that it subjects stone or crystal objects struck by the weapon as though affected by the Shatter spell (Caster Level 13).


blackbloodtroll wrote:
I asked James Jacobs, and I got a "great question for Rules Forum" response.

*Facepalm*

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Baelin wrote:
Based on the "suppressed" effect of the enchantment, a safe bet would be that it subjects stone or crystal objects struck by the weapon as though affected by the Shatter spell (Caster Level 13).

Well, the Shatter spell can be used against any object, if not used as an area effect.


It sounds like a property that was dropped from UE.

Seems like it would give a bonus to sunder and extra damage against objects.

If it is anything like the one available in 3.x it doubles your weapon's enhancement bonus on sunder attacks and damage to objects. It also allowed you to make a free sunder attempt on the Armour your enemy wore on a successful hit and if you got a critical all their weapons and Armour were targeted by you sunder.

It was a +2 enhancement I believe.

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Well, it is something you can pick up in PFS.

I wonder how they would handle it.


Who knows.

One might could figure out how much the enchantment would cost and reverse engineer it related to the cost. It wouldn't be PFS legal but it is an option.

EDIT: If I had to guess I would say Shattering is a +1 enchantment with the rest of the Earthenflail's cost being the +1 Heavy Flail and the negation of cover effect.


Seems more like the Earthenflail is one of those cinematic villain weapon properties where the user can sweep away the terrain like air.


Baelin wrote:
Seems more like the Earthenflail is one of those cinematic villain weapon properties where the user can sweep away the terrain like air.

Meh, then it would be more of a Sword.

Grand Lodge

So, nothing on this seemingly nonexistent enchantment?


Exactly... strange no?

I have F.A.Q.'d it.


If I had to hazard a guess, I think the Earthenflail operates as a Shatterspike with the extra benefits listed in its description. The relative pricing of the two items is consistent with this idea.
-blarg


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Blargney ninja-stole my response!


Hmm, Maybe allow it to ignore the increases to hardness and HP from magical enhancement...

Personally I never liked specific weapons because I could never figure out how to upgrade them exactly...

Grand Lodge

If it works like Shatterspike, then how much does the ability cost?

What are the required spells for it's creation?

What school of magic would Detect Magic detect?


I said the Shattering is Priced as a +1 Bonus.

The Spell & School sounds like Transmutation.

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Any word?

All I have gotten is JJ's "hell if know, put it on the Rules Forum".


None Yet hopefully we get F.A.Q. soon.

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Just popping in to see if there has been word on this.

Perhaps a Dev comment of any kind?


I still want to know.

Was it literally ghost-written into the book? Are the Paizo offices haunted by a prankster spirit?


The shatterspike description is weird. I thought they got rid of that "can only sunder weapons of equal or lower enhancement bonus" and instead increased hardness and hit points according to enhancement bonus instead.

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Shattering enchantment is not the Shatterspike specific weapon.

Shatterspike has a full write up.

Nobody knows what the hell the Shattering enchantment is.

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So, is "gee, that's a good question" the extent of responses still?

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I am just checking in to see if there was any answer to the mystery of this seemingly nonexistent enchantment.


It has 30 FAQ requests. I'm sure for the next FAQ or errata, it'll have some sort of answer.

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I hope so.

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Has there been any developer comment on whether this will be addressed in next FAQ/errata or not?


Just as with the Spirit Totem this hasn't been Clarified.

Wow... Talk about linking back to each other...


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

What wasn't clarified about the spirit totem?


What adds to the Attack.

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Ravingdork wrote:
What wasn't clarified about the spirit totem?

See here.

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If anyone has word, I would like to hear it.

Also, if anyone has not hit the FAQ button next to the original post, please do so.

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Bump for update.

Grand Lodge

I have found an answer.

Breaking and Shattering:
BREAKING
PRICE: +1 BONUS
AURA faint evocation CL 5th WEIGHT —
Upon command, a breaking weapon deals an extra 2d6 points
of damage against inanimate objects and crystalline creatures
on a successful hit and ignores the hardness of objects with
a hardness of 5 or lower. When used against a crystalline
creature, the damage from this effect does not stack with bane
or similar weapon special abilities. This effect remains until
another command is given.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS: COST +1 bonus
Craft Magic Arms and Armor, break or shatter
SHATTERING
PRICE: +2 BONUS
AURA moderate evocation CL 8th WEIGHT —
A shattering weapon functions as a breaking weapon that also
explodes with a resounding crash upon striking a successful
critical hit. In addition to the extra damage from the breaking
ability, a shattering weapon deals an extra 1d10 points of damage
to objects and crystalline creatures on a successful critical hit. If
the weapon’s critical multiplier is ×3, it deals an extra 2d10 points
of damage instead, and if the multiplier is ×4, it deals an extra
3d10 points instead. When used against a crystalline creature,
this damage stacks with bane and similar weapon special abilities
(though the damage from the breaking ability still doesn’t).
Even if the breaking ability is not active, the weapon still deals
its extra damage on a successful critical hit. A shattering weapon
ignores the hardness of objects with a hardness of 10 or lower.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS: COST +2 bonus
Craft Magic Arms and Armor, break or shatter


Where are those?

Grand Lodge

Dungeoneer's Handbook.


Wow... So maybe the Earthenflail will end up being allowed in PFS.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Hi all,

The 'shattering' weapon property was one I wrote up for Ultimate Equipment but which got cut from the book, and it was pretty similar to the "breaking" enchantment that ended up in the Dungeoneer's Handbook that you see posted above.

I would imagine that if/when they allow the earthenflail in PFS, they will issue an erratum to use the "breaking" property (instead of the more powerful "shattering" ability given here), but that's just my guess.

Sorry I never popped by to comment earlier; I just never saw the thread. :)

Grand Lodge

It's cool.

Now, if I could point you here, for a comment, it would make my month. ;)


@Jason Nelson: You might want to swing by the Ask James Jacobs thread I think someone is hunting you down.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

I dunno, I usually stay away from people trying to hunt me down!


It has to do with Large Bear Animal Companions. Or Rather the lack there of.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Not my department, unfortunately. I did write a lot of Animal Archive, but animal companion stuff was not part of what I did. I understand the frustration and do agree that it's odd that *wolves* become size Large and bears don't, but not much I can do about it.

Grand Lodge

Still glad this was answered.

Perhaps the enchantment was cut?

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