Robert Hawkshaw |
I don't know. These researchers are from Yale. I suspect they can afford more than bubble wrap.
Yeah but you can run a couple thousand of these little experiments for the same amount of money as doing a full run on an MRI. This lets you filter out the bad experiments, the bad researchers etc, and you can focus in on the good ones and give those the full MRI treatment.
And if you are a masters or a PHD student you are on a tight timeline, you need a couple of experiments, all done within 2-4 years, and probably only have like 22k a year to live on and use to fund your research.
It also lets your supervisor publish a lot of little notes and papers, which is the only metric used to decide whether or not you get hired, or whether or not you get tenure.
Freehold DM |
Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:I don't know. These researchers are from Yale. I suspect they can afford more than bubble wrap.Yeah but you can run a couple thousand of these little experiments for the same amount of money as doing a full run on an MRI. This lets you filter out the bad experiments, the bad researchers etc, and you can focus in on the good ones and give those the full MRI treatment.
And if you are a masters or a PHD student you are on a tight timeline, you need a couple of experiments, all done within 2-4 years, and probably only have like 22k a year to live on and use to fund your research.
It also lets your supervisor publish a lot of little notes and papers, which is the only metric used to decide whether or not you get hired, or whether or not you get tenure.
It's...like you're bizarro future me or something....
BigNorseWolf |
BigNorseWolf wrote:If something is hard and you can't measure it then you say something is hard and we can't measure it. Its not an excuse for saying "my pet theory is right and its SCIIIENCE!" when you have an incredibly tenuous link between what you're observing and what you want to measure.Actually, it is. A lot of science is built on this.
A lot of psychology is based on it, hence my skepticism of psychology as a science.
Freehold DM |
Freehold DM wrote:BigNorseWolf wrote:If something is hard and you can't measure it then you say something is hard and we can't measure it. Its not an excuse for saying "my pet theory is right and its SCIIIENCE!" when you have an incredibly tenuous link between what you're observing and what you want to measure.Actually, it is. A lot of science is built on this.A lot of psychology is based on it, hence my skepticism of psychology as a science.
Nope. Science. Confirmation bias exists in all fields.
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
I still don't get it: they are measuring a) the way people rate the cuteness of the animals; b) how much participants verbalize their sense of "losing control" and wanting to squeeze the animals; and c) how much they popped bubbles.
But, I only brought up cute puppies as an amusing side note--
back to serious stuff:
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Sissyl |
BigNorseWolf wrote:Nope. Science. Confirmation bias exists in all fields.Freehold DM wrote:BigNorseWolf wrote:If something is hard and you can't measure it then you say something is hard and we can't measure it. Its not an excuse for saying "my pet theory is right and its SCIIIENCE!" when you have an incredibly tenuous link between what you're observing and what you want to measure.Actually, it is. A lot of science is built on this.A lot of psychology is based on it, hence my skepticism of psychology as a science.
Nah. Throw enough money and political prestige into a field and the confirmation bias disappears.
Also, (bubble bubble bubble).
Freehold DM |
I still don't get it: they are measuring a) the way people rate the cuteness of the animals; b) how much participants verbalize their sense of "losing control" and wanting to squeeze the animals; and c) how much they popped bubbles.
But, I only brought up cute puppies as an amusing side note--
back to serious stuff:and
I"m sure they came up with a serious cuteness scale that went from kinda cute(non Sanrio characters), mostly cute(Sanrio characters who aren't hello kitty), and REALLY CUTE(Miss Kitty White herself, Hello Kitty).
See? Purely scientific.
Freehold DM |
Freehold DM wrote:BigNorseWolf wrote:Nope. Science. Confirmation bias exists in all fields.Freehold DM wrote:BigNorseWolf wrote:If something is hard and you can't measure it then you say something is hard and we can't measure it. Its not an excuse for saying "my pet theory is right and its SCIIIENCE!" when you have an incredibly tenuous link between what you're observing and what you want to measure.Actually, it is. A lot of science is built on this.A lot of psychology is based on it, hence my skepticism of psychology as a science.
Nah. Throw enough money and political prestige into a field and the confirmation bias disappears.
Also, (bubble bubble bubble).
Makes sense to me.
Is anyone else hungry? Cuz I'm hungry all of a sudden...
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
[blushes]
Also, give this a read and tell me what you think, Sissyl dear.
Vive le Galt!
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
Also, more evidence that women should be in charge.
IIRC, Bahrain was a faithful and staunch U.S. ally throughout the so-called Arab Spring.
Robert Hawkshaw |
Did she a chance on you? (and worldwide socialist revolution)
Really just taking any opportunity to play some ABBA.
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
Who doesn't like ABBA?
This one is more likely to be about international socialist proletarian revolution.
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
So, I find Mr. Hedges kind of interesting. Reading his stuff always has a nostalgic quality. He usually summarizes things that I haven't really thought about in 10-15 years.
So, for example, nothing much new in the first three chapters: Pine Ridge, South Dakota (Wounded Knee, AIM, Leonard Peltier); Camden, NJ (urban devastation, segregation, rustbelt); West Virginia (UMWA, murder of Yablonski, union-busting, moutaintop removal).
Not surprisingly, these places haven't gotten any better than when I first learned about them 20 years ago. News to me, however, was the expose of George Norcross III, plutocrat and Democratic Party boss in southern NJ.
The fourth chapter was pretty eye-opening, though, about migrant workers in southern Florida. Coalition of Immokalee Workers. According to Hedges, "more than a 1,000 men and women in the state of Florida have been freed by law enforcement over the past fifteen years from slave camps. There have been nine federal prosecutions for modern-day slavery since 1997."
The fifth chapter was about Occupy and, imho, it was pretty lame.
But, still, I'd recommend the book to your average left-of-center Paizonian, even one who hates Chris Hedges like Comrade Samnell.
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
The 8th Dwarf |
Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:So, for example, nothing much new in the first three chapters: Pine Ridge, South Dakota (Wounded Knee, AIM, Leonard Peltier);More on Pine Ridge
Movie - Thunderheart .
The 1890 massacre at Wounded Knee...
The 7th Cavalry's opening fire indiscriminately from all sides, killing men, women, and children, as well as some of their own fellow troopers. Those few Lakota warriors who still had weapons began shooting back at the attacking troopers, who quickly suppressed the Lakota fire. The surviving Lakota fled, but U.S. cavalrymen pursued and killed many who were unarmed.
By the time it was over, at least 150 men, women, and children of the Lakota Sioux had been killed and 51 wounded (4 men, 47 women and children, some of whom died later); some estimates placed the number of dead at 300. Twenty-five troopers also died, and 39 were wounded (6 of the wounded would later die).[7] It is believed that many were the victims of friendly fire, as the shooting took place at close range in chaotic conditions. At least twenty troopers were awarded the coveted Medal of Honor.[8]
Smarnil le couard |
“In other days France was the name of a country. We should take care that in 1961 it does not become the name of a nervous disease.”
Well, I suppose hidden agendas can be seen everywhere.
Not having a terrorist haven (pre-2001 Afghanistan style) on our collective doorstep is in our best interest, and we have commercial interests in neighbouring countries : so I guess we are not doing that only for the beautiful eyes of the malians.
For the time being, we did reconquer a big chunk of north Mali (all the big towns, Tombouctou and Gao among them) and are beginning to pull back, as african soldiers sent by the CEDEAO (Senegal, Tchad, Ivoty Coast, Benin, Niger, etc.) come trickling in.
I can't foretell future, but it doesn't sound like a new colonial invasion, and Bamako (Mali's capital) was really hours from being seized by djihadists when it all started.
Disclaimer : I'm not reading the minds of my government's members. But on the surface, this war is as clean and legal as it gets. UN approval ? Check. Imminent threat on a allied sovereign nation ? Check. Exerting our influence to call for a political solution to the tuareg issue ? Check.
Yes, the current malian governement is the result of a military coup, but the previous one would have called for help too, as the malian army seems to be better at overthrowing civilian authorities than at defending them against rebels.
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
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My doorstep ends on the western coast of the Atlantic. I believe yours ends on the northern coast of the Mediterranean.
But, of course, imperialist bombings of Africa have always been seen as quite clean and legal by those carrying them out.
Stir up some jihadists over here (Libya), shoot 'em down over there (Mali).
The Human Rights Watch reports in a couple of months will be awesome, I bet.
Smarnil le couard |
My doorstep ends on the western coast of the Atlantic. I believe yours ends on the northern coast of the Mediterranean.
But, of course, imperialist bombings of Africa have always been seen as quite clean and legal by those carrying them out.
Stir up some jihadists over here (Libya), shoot 'em down over there (Mali).
The Human Rights Watch reports in a couple of months will be awesome, I bet.
According to the Monroe doctrine, you have a much bigger doorstep than that ! <nudge, nudge>
I bet we would have been more willing to let them preach charia in peace in the desert if they hadn't gotten into the habit of kidnapping people, including ours. There is the attack on Bamako, too.
I fear that you could be right on the human rights issue, as feelings of revenge against the tuareg are running high among the liberated cities, and it could turn ugly, real quick. A "clean" war is a palinody, you know.
The thing is, I can't think of a better way of handling the situation (apart from proletarian revolution of course, but amazingly none of the people involved seemed to be interested in that).
thejeff |
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So is it ever justified to engage military activity, other than in direct defense of your own soil?
I suspect you're right about the HRW reports, but it's not like there wasn't bad stuff going on before the French intervened either. War is bad for Human Rights.
The short term question is: Did the French military intervention make the situation better or worse?
The larger question of course is: To what extent are imperialist/colonialist policies behind the problems in the first place?
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
The larger question of course is: To what extent are imperialist/colonialist policies behind the problems in the first place?
Well, there's all kinds of interesting things to be read about, but, immediately:
The imperialist destruction of Libya led to many Tuaregs living there to rush home with heavy weapons and the military dictator of Mali is an American-trained soldier who has overthrown the government twice, I believe, in the last twelve months. So, there's that.
thejeff |
thejeff wrote:The larger question of course is: To what extent are imperialist/colonialist policies behind the problems in the first place?Well, there's all kinds of interesting things to be read about, but, immediately:
The imperialist destruction of Libya led to many Tuaregs living there to rush home with heavy weapons and the military dictator of Mali is an American-trained soldier who has overthrown the government twice, I believe, in the last twelve months. So, there's that.
As I said, that's the harder question. Or at least the one that looks worse for the West in this case.
But given that the situation exists and that the West already bears some responsibility for it, how would you answer the first question - Did the French military intervention make the situation better or worse?Sissyl |
Sadly, I would have to say the West has acted appallingly, and most of the issues left behind of this is at least partly due to callous realpolitik. It's stuff like sending Khomeiny to Persia with a s@!@load of cash that does it. The West has become blinded to certain pretty useful truths along this way: If a country is about to prosper and you see a democratic development in that country, it is NOT to your best interest to destroy the functionings of that country. Even if it has more oil than you do. A friendly, willing trade partner is worth so much more to your interests that it's not even funny.
If the West had simply stayed out of people's faces, those countries would in most cases probably have been democratic by now. All we have managed to do with our giving money to their corrupt puppet governments is prevent the natural reaction to a bad situation - improving it. And yes, this applies to all aid that is channeled through the receiving country's government.
But... change is dangerous, painful and exploitable. The West simply refuses to learn to let it happen and stay away.
Bleh.
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
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According to the Monroe doctrine, you have a much bigger doorstep than that ! <nudge, nudge>
I bet we would have been more willing to let them preach charia in peace in the desert if they hadn't gotten into the habit of kidnapping people, including ours. There is the attack on Bamako, too.
I fear that you could be right on the human rights issue, as feelings of revenge against the tuareg are running high among the liberated cities, and it could turn ugly, real quick. A "clean" war is a palinody, you know.
The thing is, I can't think of a better way of handling the situation (apart from proletarian revolution of course, but amazingly none of the people involved seemed to be interested in that).
So, there was this nasty civil war going in Libya, right? And "we" decided to back one side and overthrew the dictator and got wicked good deals on Libyan oil.
But, alas, our allies couldn't help but go on racist pogroms against sub-Saharan Africans. So a bunch of Tuaregs take a bunch of heavy weapons home with them to Mali where they hook up with a bunch of hravily-armed Islamic fundamentalists, who, in the meantime, haven't been getting along very well with their imperialist masters.
Meanwhile, back in Mali the civilian government, which has been long a stooge of the IMF and Banque de France is overthrown, twice, by an American-trained general who doesn't think the Tuaregs are getting oppressed enough (it's not going to turn ugly, Comrade, it's been a long ugly for a long time).
But we shouldn't worry about the imperialist implications of France militarily intervening into one of its former colonies because troops from other African countries that have been bombed by the French are on their way! I wonder how many of them are being advised by Africom?
Don Juan de Doodlebug |
As I said, that's the harder question. Or at least the one that looks worse for the West in this case.
But given that the situation exists and that the West already bears some responsibility for it, how would you answer the first question - Did the French military intervention make the situation better or worse?
Well, we'll have to wait and see how many people get massacred by the imperialist backed military dictatorship, now won't we?